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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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post Aug 24 2012, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(OldManChild @ Aug 24 2012, 01:57 AM)
waa 3 barb, 1 monk..
nice combo
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Yeap, Monk and Barbs are good friends.

They lick each other.
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post Aug 24 2012, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(metalslug @ Aug 24 2012, 04:11 PM)
anyone can tell me which one is better, 1handbow or xbow?
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Pros and cons.

What you want to play?
Tanky or range shooter?
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post Sep 25 2012, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Sep 25 2012, 06:44 PM)
To fellow dh.
Im trying to push a buff to Nightstalker and Preparation:Punishment.

Here's my thread in the PTR Feedback forum.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6679367974

Bumps, supports, discussions and suggestions are appreciated.  smile.gif
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How do you want to push a buff? To have your voice heard?

Barbs were so weak in Inferno.
What changed that?
The WW-Tornado Barb changed that.
And the gears changed that too (plenty of LOH/LS gears now).

I do not understand why you want to use "Barb" to support your wishlist.
Barb is a melee hero. And there is no way DH can do what Barbs are doing.

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post Sep 26 2012, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 25 2012, 07:36 PM)
Is the video 1.0.5?
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No, it's patch 104.
This video shows you LOH vs LS.
The answer is, you need both in patch 105. laugh.gif
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post Sep 26 2012, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:01 AM)
But DH can tank as well as barb in 104 by using loh...
Wat is ls?
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Yes, you need to change to 2x1H bow to tank. LOH is important. Likewise, LS.
It is better to keep both.

But DH still can't do what Barb's doing.
You can't count how many hits the Barb did in the video.

Barb can't stay invisible.
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post Sep 26 2012, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(nzai @ Sep 26 2012, 10:09 AM)
dunno why all said dh cannot tank -.-
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Because they do not have adequate LOH in their gears.
And low AR too.

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post Sep 26 2012, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:19 AM)
Sorry, what is likewise? Life steal? I am playing Chinese ver. Noneed keep two hand loh.. Now i am using one hand loh 950 and another hand is focus critical, still can tank ghom and azmodan in 104.
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LS is lifesteal.
If you use one hand with 950 LOH. You need other gears, amulet & rings, to make up adequate LOH.

My DH use both LOH and LS.
With hungry arrow, with average 120-140K DPS, it is very normal to hit multiple targets with more than 100K damage and I get a lot of life recovery from LS. .


Added on September 26, 2012, 10:26 am
QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 10:19 AM)
Tat day I play with a super high dps DH in act 3. His 200k without ss. Kill monters in second but he still die when hit by elites and I still standing there and keep shooting in low dps..haha
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Yes, some players just focus too much on glass cannon.

After so many patches, IMO, we need a very balance build.
Balance DPS/Armor/AR/HP/life recovery etc etc.
Any nerf or buff, ada-aku-kisah.jpg tongue.gif

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post Sep 26 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 26 2012, 11:02 AM)
Emm, I just have 950 only  still enough tank all elites in 104 but I dunno 105 can or no..
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I believe you still can do it.
If can't, get another 1H with 900+ LOH.
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post Sep 28 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Sep 28 2012, 10:53 AM)
After Monk, Barb, finally I venture to DH.

So, anyone can guide me how to be an average DH that can finish Inferno? What are the basic requirement?

Now my DH lvl 26 tongue.gif

I am farming lvl60 gear for the DH using my monk. Currently had some weapons in stash. Which to use:
2H xbow + quiver
2H bow + quiver
2 x 1H xbow
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Sep 28 2012, 10:59 AM)
Use 2h xbow ( high critical but low speed) or 2h bow (15% damage and medium speed) to give u high dps. Better find got slot one.  Ur build atleast got 400 AR, 3000 armor, life 30k, dps 50k without ss.. Focus ar, dex, critical chance .. Just kiting and u will easy to finish inferno. I no sifu and all this just my nood suggestion. U oso can refer other DH sifu.
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Personally I prefer 2H crossbow too. Because it can deliver higher and consistent damage.
My average damage is 120-150K. With hungry arrow, I can hit many targets.

Just to add, if you have sharp shooter as your passive skill, focus more on critical damage i/o crit chance.

P/S Are you going to use your monk's gears on DH?
My DH uses my Monk's gears. So she has high AR and physical resistance. laugh.gif
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post Oct 10 2012, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 10:02 AM)
What is the average AR and armor for a DH to survive ok ok in inferno? I am not too familiar with range build, my Barb had about 8k armor + 600AR, monk had 6k armor + 500AR.

DH? Now 3k armor + 300 resist minimal only.
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Generally your stats seem good enough to complete Inferno.
Armor is good. AR should be okay (I've seen some are lower than yours).

Just to comment on your life regen.
Reflect damage (of elites) could be an issue if you do not have sufficient life regeneration (LOH/LS).
I see you have 471 LOH + 2.7% LS.
I am not sure how well you cope with the damage reflection. If you find difficulty, try use Gloom.
If it's still not good, you may need to change one gear to increase your LOH/LS.
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post Oct 10 2012, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 10:15 AM)
Ironically, my DH had more life than my monk & barb.
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You don't need high HP as you don't play a tanker DH.
Your current HP is good enough.
Just kite when you encounter fireballs, fire and damage reflection (that you can't cope with).


Added on October 10, 2012, 10:33 am
QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 10 2012, 10:29 AM)
Try improve ur dps , better 60k without ss.. Others ok. Just kiting then u will finish inferno smoothly.. Can add me if wan play together.
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I believe yuhhaur just wants to complete Inferno at this stage.
I think he will not use his DH to farm.
So, his current stats should be good enough to complete Inferno.

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post Oct 10 2012, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:26 AM)
Tank DH need high hp? My life around 33k, enough or no?
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If you can tank with 33K, then it is enough.
I have seen tanker DH with 60K HP.
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post Oct 10 2012, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:27 AM)
Nope, 33k is too low to tank. I have this friend with 170k DPS and 80k HP but since he lost quite a bit HP after switching to DW. His current EHP is at 550k.
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It depends on the build.
shin6619 may have a more efficient build (with combination of gears & skills) to proc higher life recovery.
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post Oct 10 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 10 2012, 11:30 AM)
IMO, unless you have insane AR and Armor, is not going to work because when you meet RD mobs are mobs that hits hard, you just won't have enough life pool to sustain the damage even u have say 3k LOH. In other words, you won't have enough time to recover the health loss due to your low health pool.

But again, i might be wrong. So, let me know.
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If I'm not mistaken, shin6619 had no problem to tank Ghom in MP10 PTR105.
He has got a very efficient build.
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post Oct 10 2012, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(yuhhaur @ Oct 10 2012, 11:56 AM)
I try see how la...
Shoulder & glove... saw ALeUNe had a nice glove... I wonder he can borrow me or not tongue.gif
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No problem. Let me know when you need it.
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post Oct 13 2012, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 11 2012, 04:21 PM)
Just testing my Tank DH how fast can kill diablo inferno....only use 3 mins. tongue.gif
Skills is Hungering Arrow and Impale.
only running away the catch of Diablo.
Here is the video i upload to youtube but low resolution... tongue.gif

Jusr sharing, thank you.


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Speaking of tanker against Diablo Inferno, I used my monk to tank diablo today.
Co-op game where all three players down in the beginning of shadow stage. Killing 4 shadows for 3 rounds in shadow stage.
I tanked until the end. Just stood there and whacked. Fear no fire.

No video though since forum member asked me to assist.
(p/s forum member, Zelda, is the one who asked me to join the game).


Added on October 13, 2012, 11:25 pmWe tanker should play more often. tongue.gif
Shin, i'll add you shortly.

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post Oct 18 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Oct 18 2012, 02:49 PM)
Hey wKkay,

U using Bola shot with Volatile explosive runes?

I'm currently making the change as well but i'm still undecided cuz i've been a HA:SoT user for ages.

Any insight or advice to which is better?
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My concern is, which proc higher LOH/LS return?
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post Oct 18 2012, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(jiidaineko @ Oct 18 2012, 02:58 PM)
how the heck to survive uber ...
i use back my 104 build ... straight die ... and my eq is fairly decent ...

dont tell me i must go back grenade mode?
poison grenade + chakram shuriken + caltrop torturous

cull of weak + gloom + night stalker + boar?

lol
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Which MP? Please be more specific.
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post Oct 19 2012, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 19 2012, 07:48 AM)
DH still can done well in 105? I feel blur now.I just feel than 105 (mp5) harder than 104 because I tank like boss in 104 but now I feel I become weak oledi, cannot play smooth like 104... Can tank but no like 104, maybe gloom neff 35% and make a big different to me.. I oso feel the life in mp5 more longer than 104, so I kill very slow.. 90k dps oso slow.. No die but Slow slow slow maybe I need to change skill.. Genaredes slow slow slow like turtle and snail...
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Shin, it is indeed difficult for ranged players, especially for those glass cannon build and build without LS/LOH.
2 general scenarios I noticed.
Firstly, the AI of elites has increased. In co-op game, I saw elites go after ranged players instead of melee heroes.
Secondly, the reflect damage has increased.

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post Oct 19 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Oct 19 2012, 09:27 AM)
100% agree, bro. Any suggestion to my build? Change weopon? 1000dps same stat weopon? Now using 870dps, I think 130 dps no much different.. Or sockect of weopon from 100% cd change to 600 loh gem?? I blur, dunno upgrade what?
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Generally, your build is very good enough.
Your build can even do MP10, remember? It just took long long time to kill elites. laugh.gif

I think the point here is to kill fast, which is just not possible if you wanna do high MP, unfortunately.

Speaking of upgrade gears, if you have budget and you find a right gear, I'd say why not?
Increase DPS could certainly help in fast killing in MP5/6 (I think that is the most ideal MP for most players).
I found there is 900+ LOH on amulet now. Try get one if you can to boost up your LOH.


Added on October 19, 2012, 9:43 am
QUOTE(keanoppy @ Oct 19 2012, 09:35 AM)
On the AI portion,i think it is based on aggro (same as WOW frm bliz)..it will atk the ones with higher dps first
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Yes, this could be the case.

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