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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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morningstar5770
post Nov 5 2012, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 09:43 PM)
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juz curious, any extra effect from the poison dmg?
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post Nov 5 2012, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(morningstar5770 @ Nov 5 2012, 12:03 AM)
juz curious, any extra effect from the poison dmg?
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OFC. 5 percent elemental damage.
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post Nov 5 2012, 10:39 AM

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Super godly DH in Asia server, 600k dps without ss.

http://tw.battle.net/d3/zh/profile/삘릴...96/hero/3138997
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post Nov 5 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:39 AM)
Super godly DH in Asia server, 600k dps without ss.

http://tw.battle.net/d3/zh/profile/삘릴...96/hero/3138997
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Yeah, taiwan guy.
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post Nov 5 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:43 AM)
Yeah, taiwan guy.
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It's crazy but I wish to know how many hits can he take in mp10 without any AR? one hit or two hits die? Or his control skills very good, run here and there to prevant get hits? My control skill badly so prefer stand and click...
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post Nov 5 2012, 10:57 AM

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Well, u know i'm starting to think AR is worthless. Okay maybe not worthless but having a high HP pool maybe lets u take one hit. I have low AR as well but 60k HP saves my ass most of the time.

and about control, yeah maybe. move shoot move shoot. I don't think we are losing DPS compared to those barbs that don't kite. Is like fast clicking if u get me. try to reduce the time between moving and shooting.

and besides, with that DPS, u melt things rather quickly. Hence, i'm going for that legacy zuni for this reason. Best DPS boot out there.
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:51 PM)
How much disc u have? i have 47 on standard fights and 57 with SoJ against ubers. So with NS rune, i can mix SS and Gloom.
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45. am looking into SoJ too cause of the max disc and dmg bonus. but that's not in my priority purchase list.

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:51 PM)
Kulle's movement is just too much hassle for the aiming but if u have CM wiz then it'll be a different story. and LOL i didn't know u could drop 3 at once. I thought u could only drop 3 at once with scatter. Are u using custom engineering to drop 3?
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nope we can drop traps max up to 3. i think you're referring to sentry. with bola stun we can stun the boss most of the time. definitely can't compared to CM wiz but still pretty useful otherwise can't use traps at all.

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 4 2012, 02:51 PM)
Means i want to unload all my hatred within the shortest time possible. This is why i'm fond of CA and Impale but impale seem to suck lately.
If i'm not mistaken should be 4 bombs. The smaller ones are hard to spot. I'm not sure here. need more data. Damage of BL on MP1 is fine man. I have 1.98 AS so BL goes fast.
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tried BL/NS yesterday and compared to Multishot. the difference is that NS has very slow disc regen, but can spam BL everywhere which produce a lot dmg as compared to Multishot. BL/NS i can't run fast most of the time, and Multishot need ToC to produce damage as well. after all the time spent on both build is pretty much the same. (based on record with >5 times doing Multishot build, and 3 times BL/NS)
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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:57 AM)
Well, u know i'm starting to think AR is worthless. Okay maybe not worthless but having a high HP pool maybe lets u take one hit. I have low AR as well but 60k HP saves my ass most of the time.

and about control, yeah maybe. move shoot move shoot. I don't think we are losing DPS compared to those barbs that don't kite. Is like fast clicking if u get me. try to reduce the time between moving and shooting.

and besides, with that DPS, u melt things rather quickly. Hence, i'm going for that legacy zuni for this reason. Best DPS boot out there.
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U mean we can use high hp to replace AR? Without AR, we can totally boots our dps per item (focus high dex, vit, cd, cc and ias) rite?
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:04 AM)
U mean we can use high hp to replace AR? Without AR, we can totally boots our dps per item (focus high dex, vit, cd, cc and ias) rite?
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Yes. I'm thinking to do that la but don't take my word for it. I'm normally very wrong when it comes to AR and VIT. At least i'm getting the VIT part correct now. So got improvement rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

@D3dragonslayer

nice signet there. I'm thinking of getting one too. 2xHellfire rings + ruby + signet. nice leveling !

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post Nov 5 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:57 AM)
and about control, yeah maybe. move shoot move shoot. I don't think we are losing DPS compared to those barbs that don't kite. Is like fast clicking if u get me. try to reduce the time between moving and shooting.
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with that I do feel that dh (non tank dh) has the highest apm among every classes.. sometimes i feel my finger pain after few round ubers..
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 5 2012, 11:07 AM)
with that I do feel that dh (non tank dh) has the highest apm among every classes.. sometimes i feel my finger pain after few round ubers..
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yeah, happen to me as well. feels numb.. I think most don't get it that our play style is not just static. Requires lots of clicking and movement to maximize our DPS output. But tank DHs can do the opposite which is kinda cool too..
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:06 AM)
Yes. I'm thinking to do that la but don't take my word for it. I'm normally very wrong when it comes to AR and VIT. At least i'm getting the VIT part correct now. So got improvement  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

@D3dragonslayer

nice signet there. I'm thinking of getting one too. 2xHellfire rings + ruby + signet. nice leveling !
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haha thanks.. without that i could've been in lvl50.. it's pretty worth an investment in the long run.. also the price should be dropping alot after 105? didn't research though

as for AR i think we still need a bit for EHP. i have 40k life and with little AR increase i will have similar ehp as compared to 60k life no AR. need to find a balance between life/AR/armor. though i have no idea about that sweet spot maybe tanky dh or other meelee players can give us some suggestion

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post Nov 5 2012, 11:15 AM

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I more prefer half tank haft dps...target to go is 200k dps. I will reach it if I got a same stats manticore but 2 sockets.
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:38 AM

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with the rate of drops these days I think prices gona go down substantially... 200k dps DH will be the new norm soon smile.gif
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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 5 2012, 11:14 AM)
haha thanks.. without that i could've been in lvl50.. it's pretty worth an investment in the long run.. also the price should be dropping alot after 105? didn't research though

as for AR i think we still need a bit for EHP. i have 40k life and with little AR increase i will have similar ehp as compared to 60k life no AR. need to find a balance between life/AR/armor. though i have no idea about that sweet spot maybe tanky dh or other meelee players can give us some suggestion
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THe signet in EU server is still the same. Damn. 30mil region.

Yeah, i'm looking for a sweet spot too cuz i'm never willing to invest in AR but yet curses when i make a stupid mistake here and there. Well, i hvae 60k HP and 298AR. Walking food i know
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:15 AM)
I more prefer half tank haft dps...target to go is 200k dps. I will reach it if I got a same stats manticore but 2 sockets.
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This manticore gives me a 40k DPS boost. But i loose 153 VIT by changing. So that's kinda messed up.

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post Nov 5 2012, 11:42 AM

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Eu server? How much u bought?
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QUOTE(shin6619 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:42 AM)
Eu server? How much u bought?
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Yeah, EU. Still negotiating.
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selling all my cheap gear in rmah... am surprised it's so sellable... first of all things in rmah are selling more expensive than same counterparts in AH. secondly if trf to battlenet balance its only 1 dollar.. which is 10%tax out of say a 10 bucks item.

eg,
sold my cheap normal natal footprints 90 dex for 5usd profit
sold normal mempo 200 dex for 10 usd profit
3 perfect star emerald for 9usd profit
dex-roll normal litany of the undaunted for 17 usd profit

coming back 2 weeks later to see how much dps my cheap roll DH can achieve.. smile.gif
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post Nov 5 2012, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Nov 5 2012, 12:01 PM)
selling all my cheap gear in rmah... am surprised it's so sellable... first of all things in rmah are selling more expensive than same counterparts in AH. secondly if trf to battlenet balance its only 1 dollar.. which is 10%tax out of say a 10 bucks item.

eg,
sold my cheap normal natal footprints 90 dex for 5usd profit
sold normal mempo 200 dex for 10 usd profit
3 perfect star emerald for 9usd profit
dex-roll normal litany of the undaunted for 17 usd profit

coming back 2 weeks later to see how much dps my cheap roll DH can achieve.. smile.gif
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how much u aiming for?

yeah, i've always sold stuff on rmah first then GAH if the stuff is crap or above average.


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QUOTE(d3dragonslayer @ Nov 5 2012, 11:03 AM)
tried BL/NS yesterday and compared to Multishot. the difference is that NS has very slow disc regen, but can spam BL everywhere which produce a lot dmg as compared to Multishot. BL/NS i can't run fast most of the time, and Multishot need ToC to produce damage as well. after all the time spent on both build is pretty much the same. (based on record with >5 times doing Multishot build, and 3 times BL/NS)
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Yeah NS is definitely gonna regen disc slower compared to MS:SF. I prefer it cuz is cheap and is sufficient to clear mobs. Maybe just different personal taste =)

but one thing i think we should go for BL is cuz on speed runs, we want to be always moving forward right? with BL, if u r moving forwards and the mobs are parallel with u, u can still hit them and the mobs infront at the same time without needing to back track. Is much stressful too =)


Added on November 5, 2012, 12:19 pmOh about the AR, VIT topic. I think i'm wasting money getting AR cuz i have mediocre AR. 300AR and getting more is not going to help me survive better i think.

The max i can get now is say 60 on the bracers. I don't wanna be like rojak man, ok here ok there in the end not ok at all.

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