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post Aug 30 2012, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(xauxix @ Aug 30 2012, 03:27 PM)
my dell U2713hm just arrived before lunch hour. biggrin.gif

balik rumah cepat2 unbox then setup siap2..
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nice setup you have there.

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post Aug 30 2012, 08:47 PM

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Horizontal IPS

H-IPS

2007

Improves[quantify] contrast ratio by twisting electrode plane layout. Also introduces an optional Advanced True White polarizing film from NEC, to make white look more natural[quantify]. This is used in professional/photography LCDs.[citation needed]



Enhanced IPS

E-IPS

2009

Wider[quantify] aperture for light transmission, enabling the use of lower-power, cheaper backlights. Improves[quantify] diagonal viewing angle and further reduce response time to 5ms.[citation needed]



Professional IPS

P-IPS

2010

Offer 1.07 billion colours (30-bit colour depth).[citation needed] More possible orientations per sub-pixel (1024 as opposed to 256) and produces a better[quantify] true colour depth.



Advanced High Performance IPS

AH-IPS

2011

Improved colour accuracy, increased resolution and PPI, and greater light transmission for lower power consumption.[10]

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post Aug 30 2012, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(codenamew @ Aug 30 2012, 04:29 PM)
nice setup you have there.
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thanks, its the legendary ikea jerker desk, got from garage sales. smile.gif
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post Sep 1 2012, 12:52 AM

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guys have you seen lg ips277l its full hd ips going rm 880 at lelong its also i think the cheapest 27 inch ips led the rest are all 27 inch plain leds. any feedbacks?
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post Sep 1 2012, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(xauxix @ Aug 30 2012, 03:27 PM)
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Nice set up! Now I also itchy wanna upgrade my U2412M to the 27"... haha >_< mainly for the extra working space for PS and LR.
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post Sep 1 2012, 05:17 PM

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GUYS.. got a yellow line down across the LCD monitor... does that show my monitor dying?
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post Sep 1 2012, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(kuman @ Aug 30 2012, 09:58 AM)
rclxms.gif  coll will order it shortly... my 17" CRT monitor is acting all weird already.. its been serving me for the last 7~8 years!!
What type of "weird" problem? Describe in detail. Nowadays CRT monitors have little value (not worth fixing), may as well get a LCD/LED monitor. wink.gif

QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 1 2012, 05:17 PM)
GUYS.. got a yellow line down across the LCD monitor... does that show my monitor dying?
If that line stays in the same place all the time including during the BIOS POST screen then its likely a panel problem. How old is that monitor, and is it still under warranty? hmm.gif
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post Sep 2 2012, 02:58 PM

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hi all, sorry if I post in wrong thread.

windows 8 will be launch very soon, there is many new tablet, AIO desktop and ultrabook already introduce and target to launch together with windows 8. But I do not see any windows 8 certified LCD Monitor. Important criteria are capacitive multi touch screen & bezel-less or edge-2-edge display.

current existing model available locally are only optical touch with regular bezel design like acer, dell or hp. capacitive touch do have from brand like Planar, TRu/TRU-Vu but not popular available in our local dealer.

Anyone or any insider from famous brands like samsung, lg, dell, etc... please share if there is any leaked roadmap for next or next year touch screen LCD monitor if any. I looking for:
1. windows 8 certified
2. below 22"
3. full HD
4. USB hubs
mhl, wireless display or other additional features are optional, nice to have, budget RM2000.
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post Sep 2 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Sep 1 2012, 06:19 PM)
What type of "weird" problem? Describe in detail. Nowadays CRT monitors have little value (not worth fixing), may as well get a LCD/LED monitor. wink.gif

If that line stays in the same place all the time including during the BIOS POST screen then its likely a panel problem. How old is that monitor, and is it still under warranty? hmm.gif
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panel more than 4 years... lol...
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 04:53 PM)
panel more than 4 years... lol...
Brand, model and size? Try tapping on the top frame area of that line, and see if it changes color or more lines appear. You can also try pressing slightly (not too hard) the top area where the line starts from, and see if there are changes... hmm.gif
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post Sep 2 2012, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Sep 2 2012, 05:58 PM)
Brand, model and size? Try tapping on the top frame area of that line, and see if it changes color or more lines appear. You can also try pressing slightly (not too hard) the top area where the line starts from, and see if there are changes... hmm.gif
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viewsonic model cant remember now... lol...

no changes...

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QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 06:04 PM)
viewsonic model cant remember now... lol...
Size? You can check the model number on the label at the back of the monitor... wink.gif

QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 06:04 PM)
no changes...
Does it appear all the time, or just appears after some time? Usually for panel problems, have to replace whole panel. Other than that, have to know how to check for cracks or connection problems at the TCP (tape carrier package) on the panel. Do you know how to do that? hmm.gif

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post Sep 2 2012, 09:27 PM

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how long it will take for Dell to ship a monitor like U2312HM to Johor after payment made?

Does the warranty cover internationally? I going to take the monitor to Singapore.

Thanks!
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post Sep 2 2012, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Sep 2 2012, 06:19 PM)
Size? You can check the model number on the label at the back of the monitor... wink.gif

Does it appear all the time, or just appears after some time? Usually for panel problems, have to replace whole panel. Other than that, have to know how to check for cracks or connection problems at the TCP (tape carrier package) on the panel. Do you know how to do that? hmm.gif

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vx2025wm....

it stays on....
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QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 09:37 PM)
vx2025wm....
Whoah! That's monitor uses a PMVA panel (true 16.7 million colors) instead of the usual TN panel. Also its native resolution is actually 1680x1050 instead of the usual 1600x900 found on most 20" widescreen monitors nowadays. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 09:37 PM)
it stays on....
You have a few choices, really. First, just continue to use the monitor while ignoring that line. Second, get a new monitor and put aside that monitor as spare or sell it off as scrap. I could also take a look closely and see if I could apply the tape+padding trick though the chances are quite low for it to work since tapping, pressure and warming up on the panel did not alter the line in any way. Anyway, the tape carrier thingy is pretty delicate and further influence could make it worse (e.g. another line appears). That's why for this type of problem, usually whole panel has to be replaced although its not recommended as the price of that replacement panel alone (usually anywhere from at least RM200 and higher) can buy a brand new monitor (ie. usually only worth for monitors sizes 23" and above). hmm.gif

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post Sep 2 2012, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(lex @ Sep 2 2012, 10:16 PM)
Whoah! That's monitor uses a PMVA panel (true 16.7 million colors) instead of the usual TN panel. Also its native resolution is actually 1680x1050 instead of the usual 1600x900 found on most 20" widescreen monitors nowadays.  rclxms.gif

You have a few choices, really. First, just continue to use the monitor while ignoring that line. Second, get a new monitor and put aside that monitor as spare or sell it off as scrap. I could also take a look closely and see if I could apply the tape+padding trick though the chances are quite low for it to work since tapping, pressure and warming up on the panel did not alter the line in any way. Anyway, the tape carrier thingy is pretty delicate and further influence could make it worse (e.g. another line appears). That's why for this type of problem, usually whole panel has to be replaced although its not recommended as the price of that replacement panel alone (usually anywhere from at least RM200 and higher) can buy a brand new monitor (ie. usually only worth for monitors sizes 23" and above). hmm.gif
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i didnt know that detail... lol.. well nice find but it has its flaws.... the dvi sometimes cant detect.. and it will have pop pop sound then the power light goes off... i have to disconnect turn power off completely from power supply... wait for awhile reconnect everything and 99% it will come back on... so really sucky... at one point the dvi tot was dead so i have to use vga via dvi adapter... but it also have the same problem.. RMA the screen once during warranty period and they mentioned this is the problem for this LCD....

So far the 1 yellow line is bearable as it is at the side not in the middle and usually in game can kinda ignore it.. lol...

Now I have no idea which one to get or brand? envision looks good now....

any recommend? of course looking something bigger than this 20"..

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QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 10:21 PM)
i didnt know that detail... lol.. well nice find but it has its flaws.... the dvi sometimes cant detect.. and it will have pop pop sound then the power light goes off... i have to disconnect turn power off completely from power supply... wait for awhile reconnect everything and 99% it will come back on... so really sucky... at one point the dvi tot was dead so i have to use vga via dvi adapter... but it also have the same problem.. RMA the screen once during warranty period and they mentioned this is the problem for this LCD....
This one is usually the power supply section, usually badcaps. But the "pop" sounds could be from the backlight section (again possible badcaps). This one is usually easy to fix. If you want, the just ask/PM me... hmm.gif

QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 10:21 PM)
So far the 1 yellow line is bearable as it is at the side not in the middle and usually in game can kinda ignore it.. lol...

Now I have no idea which one to get or brand? envision looks good now....
I've used quite a number of monitors already, though mostly from Acer and BenQ ones, and a few Samsungs. My current one, BenQ FP222W has been running fine (already 5 years). Usually I tend to stick to known big/established brands, rather than going for less known ones like Envision, Proview, IIyama, Planar, VHO, etc. Hardware support is pretty important for LCD monitor. wink.gif

QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 10:21 PM)
any recommend? of course looking something bigger than this 20"..
As many has mentioned/recommended here, bigger than 20" would be Dell UltraSharp U2312HM... icon_idea.gif

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QUOTE(lex @ Sep 2 2012, 10:34 PM)
This one is usually the power supply section, usually badcaps. But the "pop" sounds could be from the backlight section (again possible badcaps). This one is usually easy to fix. If you want, the just ask/PM me... hmm.gif

I've used quite a number of monitors already, though mostly from Acer and BenQ ones, and a few Samsungs. My current one, BenQ FP222W has been running fine (already 5 years). Usually I tend to stick to known big/established brands, rather than going for less known ones like Envision, Proview, IIyama, Planar, VHO, etc. Hardware support is pretty important for LCD monitor. wink.gif

As many has mentioned/recommended here, bigger than 20" would be Dell UltraSharp U2312HM... icon_idea.gif
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The strangest thing was taht when I upgrade my card to 670.. now DVI can use again... wonder what is wrong??

Badcaps what you mean?

AOC also known to be a good hardware producer.. so that one also no go?

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QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 11:42 PM)
The strangest thing was taht when I upgrade my card to 670.. now DVI can use again... wonder what is wrong??
No idea, but the symptoms described (in bold) are usually indicative of power supply problems (e.g having to switch off or disconnect before can switch on back again). hmm.gif

QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 11:42 PM)
Badcaps what you mean?
Short for "bad capacitors". In many power supplies, capacitors can determine the stability of the power being delivered. If capacitors go bad then will have random and intermittent problems. wink.gif

QUOTE(firstknight @ Sep 2 2012, 11:42 PM)
AOC also known to be a good hardware producer.. so that one also no go?
AOC is actually an OEM for many monitor brands, though nowadays they decided to also compete in the market under their own brandname. The others like Acer, BenQ and Samsung are also OEMs to brands like Dell, HP, IBM, etc. Generally in terms of spare parts and replacements, brands like Acer, BenQ, Samsung and Dell are plentiful and easier to find since they are more common... tongue.gif

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post Sep 3 2012, 08:11 AM

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now im waiting my dell ST2320L arrived with patiently. expected delivery tomorrow. OMG..hope time running fast..

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