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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal - 2nd defeat!

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post Aug 19 2012, 12:19 AM

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Same old story from last season. A dysfunctional front 4 that doesn't help itself when Gerrard, Borini and Downing played so poorly. Suarez look to do everything by himself but couldn't find the goal.

Other than the front 4, I thought we looked good in the first half. Kept the ball well. Pressed them hard without the ball and restricted them to long balls or mistake. Terribly unlucky to concede that first goal and the game was over when we lost Agger. Story of last season.

Only positive is that Joe Allen played very well. Fit into the team almost seamlessly, very comfortable in possession and doesn't panic under pressure. Moreover, his defensive side is subtle, not unlike Lucas's. Still early days, but for a 22 year old, that's promising.

QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Aug 19 2012, 12:00 AM)
Doesn't matter. Still better than blasting it to Row Z.
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Of all the chances he missed, can't blame him on that one. It was a difficult shot to take and a pure reaction one. Didn't help that he was falling backwards. Can't say the same for the miss from Borini's cross though.

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Aug 19 2012, 12:23 AM)
All the senior players are awful today. Gerrard, Agger, Johnson, Skrtel, even Suarez.. But surely Downing was the worst of them all.

We did ok on 1st half but lack of chances and finishing kill us. Same ol story.. We need a poacher striker that could convert chances. Suarez are good at creating but awful on finishing.

WTF Downing on the right and Johnson on the left????
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Enrique's injured and the only backup we have is Robinson. Sure, we could play Agger there and put Carra into the team but that's an even poorer workaround.

As for Downing, BR favours a 4-3-3 formation where the 'wingers' (To use the term loosely) are expected to cut into the box. This is why Borini and Downing aren't playing in their natural positions. Of course it didn't work as both had a poor first half, compounded by the fact that Gerrard was misplacing passes.
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City, Arsenal, Sunderland away and then United next. Bumpy road ahead, folks. Hold on tight to your seats!

YNWA!
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post Aug 19 2012, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(daryl23 @ Aug 19 2012, 01:04 AM)
some of you thinks that the passing game happens overnight, that tiki-taka can be easily achieved with all sets of players. there is a reason why rodgers wants allen so much, there is a reason why he doesnt favour carroll, heck even zlatan ibrahimovic was considered a flop in barca. u tell me zlatan isnt world class ? the guy is easily one of the top5 strikers in the world during his peak. u think barcelona being able to play tiki taka overnight ? their homegrown players are schooled since young to play such a game, while we didnt retain possession as well as BR would have like, gerrard a culprit in this too, i tot we made a lot of passes in the first half, had decent half chances, n had we taken one goal, things might be different.

rmb last season's game when we drew against swansea at home and the kop gave a standing ovation to, swansea after the match, yes, swansea. n i was really impressed with that team, they even outplayed arsenal in their own game, arsenal has for a few seasons now been known for their passing game, albeit not achieving desired outcomes, they are one of the more 'attractive' side to watch until the sheiks came with millions to manchester.

im sure BR will stick to his style n tinker a little with our current set of players. understand u guys frustration but to be far, we nvr start our first game of the season well, its always a draw or lose. dont want to sound like im making up excuses, but the sending off costs us, n BR was still looking to go for it, u expect us to leave lots of spaces behind, then again, time to buck up lads. YNWA. have a little faith, if u guys cant support us when we're losing n is piss poor, dont support us when we're winning with style.
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One addition to your point on tiki-taka, it's not just about playing in style, but also keeping possession and winning back possession immediately after losing it. I thought the players were committed to the game plan, we really pressed Albion hard in the first half and restricted them to long balls and mistakes. We kept possession relatively well but we were very very poor in the final 3rd.

It's expected to take time to settle into BR's style and we shouldn't forget that. YNWA!
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QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 19 2012, 01:23 AM)
Bringing Cole was the right decision, he was the only other creative outlet we had on a bench and we needed penetration. Carra came in to replace Agger, who would you use to replace Agger ?
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Regarding Cole, it's worrying though isn't it? How long was he on the pitch? Less than 15 minutes? Either he's rushed back into the squad or he's as fragile as a wine glass. If it's the former, questions need to be asked about our medical team and the manager. If it's the latter, he's pretty much sitting on a big wages without contributing.
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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Aug 22 2012, 11:55 AM)
If we end up at 11th, he will be all laughing because of the big paycheck he will get for the sacking. HAHA.
Kidding.

Personally, I am not that greedy. I only hope we get 3rd spot, win the FA Cup, win the League Cup again and also the Europa League. And along the way, we beat Man Utd in Anfield, Old Trafford, Wembley, where ever. We meet them, we thrash them. HAHAHA.
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And that's not greedy? laugh.gif

We need to remember we only got 52 points last season. To be in the top 4, we are talking about getting at least 65. That's an at least 13 points improvement, quite far fetched don't you think? Realistically, I'm hoping that we get back into top 6 and have a good run in the Europa League. It would be nice to have some silverware but that shouldn't be the priority as much as rebuilding the team.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Aug 22 2012, 05:22 PM)
old story...
luck...

again...?

we have most of the possesion and yet we lose from opponents' one chance and one goal...

so its luck.. or our own making?

no matter how many people put in our net, we just have to make sure we put more into theirs. football basics. we couldnt even get that right...

and the trend is continuing.. until we finally get a proven goalscorer. i dont know why we cant even do the obvious. sign a goalscorer!  doh.gif
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Well maybe... just maybe Brendan is not looking to field an out-an-out goalscorer in the team, ala Spain's Euro team?

For what it's worth, we already have a goalscorer in Luis Suarez. He could score with both his feet, head and also a decent set piece taker. However he's a player I'd imagine scores sh!t loads of goals in training but misses a whole lot more on match day. Duke brought up a good point that Suarez has no problem scoring goals in the NT but seemingly struggle when in red.

The first issue with Suarez is his mentality. On the WBA match we've seen him easily nutmeg and maneuver through players but in the Premier League, defenders would have none of that. They would use all means, including physically stopping Suarez from getting through. With Suarez's height and reputation for falling easily, he's not going to get any protection from the referee. However, all that gets into his head too easily and on Saturday he talked himself into a yellow card. Whenever he gets frustrated, he misses even the simplest of chances. He needs to keep his head down and work even harder, whatever doesn't kills him will make him stronger, he will benefit a lot from the physicality of the PL. He's just a little short of being a complete world class player.

Secondly, the players around Suarez. Suarez is a chance creator as much as he's a goalscorer but players around him need to spot the chances way ahead. It's easier said than done because Suarez isn't a conventional player. When you're on byline surrounded by 3 defenders, conventional wisdom tells you to find an outlet to another Red player or try to win a corner. Not Suarez, he would somehow squeeze his way through and 9 out of 10 times he would succeed. Players around him needs to spot that early and get into goal scoring positions. Maxi was very good at that, he doesn't have the pace but he sees the opportunity ahead of the defenders and thus gets a yard ahead of them. As a result, he got a number of goals from tap-ins and loose balls in the box. Borini now takes up that role and I really hope the Dempsey deal goes through because he's not just a goalscorer but a clever player.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Aug 23 2012, 08:40 PM)
Give me a good reason why Nuri Sahin wants to come to Liverpool at this very instance?

Let's be realistic, if you are a neutral professional football player and you are at the mother of all junctures in your career, which club would you move to? Arsenal or Liverpool?
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It's more about what Real Madrid wants actually. Mourinho wants to keep him and thus is looking for a loan deal however Arsenal wants a permanent deal or a loan with the option to sign him.

At the moment there are lots of conflicting rumours flying about, I would take any of them with a pinch of salt until the deal's firm.
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It's clear tonight that Borini has settled in as a Liverpool player after hitting the woodwork. *Sigh*

Disjointed performance, giving away possession cheaply and awful corners.

Hearts are there for the taking though. I can see BR bringing out Allen & Lucas to calm things down for the final 30 minutes. Keep it simple and we should see this through.
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Overall incoherent, but if anything it's an indication of who would flourish and who would struggle under BR.

Adam looked out of his depth. There was a comical moment late in the first half. Agger was looking for an outlet to pass the ball to. Adam presents himself and upon receiving the past, wham! He sends a hollywood pass down the flanks immediately. Sterling tried chasing it but it went out of play. And he wasn't even under any pressure. Shelvey was very poor last night too and guilty of trying too hard. Always look to play the final pass first time but ends of giving away possession. Difficult to see him getting into the first team especially if Sahin comes in, a loan deal might aid his development?

Carra as well, spent the whole night passing the ball to Agger and Reina. I feel a bit sorry for him as you can see he's trying very hard, however if he struggles against Hearts, what chance does he have against City this Sunday?

On the other hand, Henderson's performance was encouraging. He was mostly playing on the wide right areas but despite having little support from Kelly, he held himself well. Calm and composed with the ball, keeps possession and doesn't panic under pressure. A couple of times he tried to put Borini behind defenders with brilliantly executed chips, shows his awareness for his teammates. He was the player Gerrard should have been on Saturday.

Sterling as expected was fearless and took on defenders every chance he gets. Still has lots to learn before he could break into the first 11.

And Downing as an attacking LB? Can't say it's unexpected but never thought I would actually see it. biggrin.gif
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Mancini: "I think Liverpool will fight for the title this year because they bought good players, they have a good manager, they change their style of play."

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QUOTE(bitebug @ Aug 25 2012, 09:01 PM)
It's tomorrow bro. 11pm malaysian time.
Anyways, Swansea is playing really well right now. BR must be feeling the heat
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Actually, I want Swansea to do well. One of the things BR said when he was appointed is that by implementing his system, he's not looking for a short term solution but to benefit the club in the long run. He says that even if he's no longer in Liverpool in 2 or 3 seasons, the club will still benefit from the system.

No disrespect to Michael Laudrup, but if Swansea goes on to do well this season, it lends credibility to what BR has said.

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Recommended Reading.

Insightful interview on Luis Suarez by the excellent Sid Lowe:
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Luis Suárez interview: 'There are two of me, two different people'
In the first interview since his ban for racial abuse, the Liverpool striker talks openly about that incident and his football beliefs

Luis Suárez could see the No24 coming. The final whistle had just gone on the opening day of the season and the West Brom striker Peter Odemwingie was heading straight for him. Liverpool had lost 3-0, Suárez had missed a couple of good chances, he was wound up, tense, and now this. But this time there was no confrontation. Instead there was comfort, counsel. "He came over to me and told me that I should forget about all that other stuff," Suárez says. "He said that I'm a great player and that I should just worry about playing."

Odemwingie is not the first person to tell him so. As Suárez talks it is a recurring theme. There is a succession of men who have sought to shift his focus, going back a long way; men who have sought to channel his intensity, that competitive edge. "If you had seen me before …" he says. There is a pause. He leans forward a little, elbows on the table, the sleeves of his training top pulled up high. His fingers move slowly as he talks, twisting the thin wedding ring on his right hand. Outside, through the glass doors that look across Liverpool's Melwood training ground, the rain hammers down. "If you had seen me before," he continues, "you'd realise that I used to be even worse."

Luis Suárez is not laughing. This is not a joke. Nor is it a plea for sympathy. And he is not fishing for compliments. It is just a statement, delivered evenly, like the majority of what he says. Yet this is not the self-congratulation of the reformed character. It is not the self-loathing either. He walks past the European Cup, past the rows and rows of boots and trainers, and up the stairs, taking a seat in an office overlooking the fields, still in his kit. He talks well; occasionally with eloquence and always with a self-awareness that is striking, even a little disarming. He says he wants to change, but doesn't want to entirely.

The contradictions are many. Suárez feels misunderstood, but this is no sob-story – he does not excuse, nor blame. He says he does not care what people say about him, but it is hard to avoid the conclusion that, somewhere inside, he does. He recognises himself, even as he does not. He says he is changing, because at times he has done himself and his team no favours, but he is not trying to be anything else. That, after all, is what got him this far. Without that competitiveness, without that edge, he would not be sitting here.

Listening to him talk it is clear that while the image does not stand up, off the pitch at least, the way he plays is ultra-competitive, confrontational, win-at-all-costs. That brings a price.

"There are people who criticise me and that's normal because of the way I am on the pitch," he concedes. "I get angry, I get tense. My wife says that if people reach conclusions as to what I am like based on what they see from me on the pitch they would say I am a guy who is always annoyed, always in a bad mood, they'd say what must it be like to live with me. There are two of me, two different people."

Liverpool's new manager, Brendan Rodgers, insists that Suárez is a good guy. Staff at the club describe him as quiet and professional. By his own admission, he first came to the Netherlands at 19 for "love": his then girlfriend, now his wife, lived in Europe and it was a way of starting a new life together. He talks proudly of how his daughter has been going to his games from the age of 15 days. On the pitch, though, he is transformed. Pressure and personality play their part in making him the player he is. So does the past.

"I have sacrificed so much to be where I am and fought so hard for it. I can't conceive of anyone wasting even five minutes in a game. I can't bear the idea of not trying to make the most of every single second. There are only three million people in Uruguay but there is such hunger for glory: you'll do anything to make it, you have that extra desire to run, to suffer. I can't explain our success but I think that's a reason.

"I played in the streets with my friends, barefooted. That was the way we lived. I never had the chance to say to my mother or father: 'I want these boots.' It's different in Europe. They have it easier. I saw that already in Holland. Kids of 17 or 18 years old were given cars already. Audis. Big cars. In Uruguay you don't have that. That can be an advantage: you don't give everything on the pitch if you have it all."

Now Suárez does. It makes no difference. He could have become comfortable but has not. The lessons are learned, the character forged. "People say to me: 'How can you run so much, how can you suffer so much, how can a defeat hurt you so much?' Because there is so much effort and sacrifice behind it. I think Latin Americans value their position more than other players.

"And the pressure is greater than people realise. It makes you do things that you never imagined: eat more, eat less, act differently," he says. "It does something to you. There have been games when I've said to myself: 'Why was I so stressed, why did I feel under such pressure when all I ever wanted was to play football?' As time passes, you realise you have to be more mature, that you have to take the games as just another game. Still give everything, still care, but not live it beforehand. Just play it. Don't get tense and wound up before the game.

"Coaches have told me I can help the team much more if I don't talk, if I don't moan. You reflect. Oscar Tabarez [Uruguay's manager], in a game against Peru in the qualification for the World Cup, told me I had let him down because he had placed a lot of trust in me, but he gave me another chance. I remember a game against Argentina too when he said to me: 'Luis, either you calm down or I take you off.' I could not carry on playing so crazily. In the second half, I focused better, I scored, I played better. Coaches who are intelligent see that. They warn you and that helps. Advice coming from the right people is always welcome.

"At Liverpool too. Steven [Gerrard] said to me during the game against United: 'Prove you're one of the best players in the world, that's what matters.'"

Talk turns to United; inevitably, it turns too to Patrice Evra and the eight-match ban that Suárez received for racially abusing the Manchester United full-back in a game at Anfield last year. It is not something Suárez particularly wants to dwell upon but it remains unresolved. He insists that he wants to move on, just as Odemwingie advised, but there are scars, a sense of injustice. He admits to feeling like a marked man, that he has felt singled out for criticism from the start. "People spoke for the sake of speaking and didn't know what they were talking about," he says. "Some people said what suited them. But that's in the past now."

The word negro in Spanish does not mean "negro", and certainly does not mean the other n-word. In Uruguay, it is a word so widely used as to often be little more than mate. "In Spanish, in Latin America, there's a way of speaking that is totally different. There are words you can say here that you could not say there and vice-versa. They would be taken in a totally different way," says Suárez. But perhaps that is not even the point given that after three days of video evidence at a three-man Independent Regulatory Commission, lip readers produced no hard evidence that he said what he was accused of saying.

But what is done is done. Move on as Odemwingie said. "They punished me, I shut up and I forget it, I want to leave it now," he says. "It's in the past. I'd prefer not to keep talking about it, otherwise it will never end."

Easier said than done. For all the talk of Olympic spirit, he was booed by opposing supporters. "What hurt me most was not that they whistled me but that they whistled the national anthem. I think that's a lack of respect. There's a clear example: the other day they were doing an interview with Usain Bolt and they started playing the American national anthem in the background, so he went silent. That's respect. That's what any normal person would do. But if they whistle me on the pitch when I have the ball that doesn't worry me.

"They are opponents and they want to have a go, that's it. They're not people who know me. It's just another stadium whistling. What Odemwingie said matters a thousand times more than some whistling." And yet, would he prefer it if fans were not on his back? "Of course."

He adds: "What matters is the people I know and Liverpool always supported me. Whenever my wife or I came across people at the club or out in the street, they were good to us. That made us feel wanted and comfortable. That was important in deciding to continue. Last year good things happened as well as bad ones. The manager [Kenny Dalglish] always supported me, he kept putting me in the team, he kept faith in me always, the players defended me as well. The press might have talked but I always felt entirely backed by the people around me."

Support was repaid with a contract renewal. Now Suárez wants to leave all that behind and channel his energy, that intensity, into the football. He says he is determined to play in the Champions League. "There were," he says, "clubs that wanted me but my priority was always to stay and sign for Liverpool. I'm happy here and the manager said he wanted me. It is a dream. This has always been a big club in Uruguay. They were on television a lot and I used to play with Liverpool on the PlayStation: my team would have Gerrard and Torres."

This is not just a new season, it feels like a new beginning. For the whole club and for Suárez. Now, though, the responsibility is greater and for the first time there are questions being raised about his footballing contribution.

He began his career as a winger and still does not refer to himself as a No9. That, though, is his job now. Eighty-one goals in 110 games for Ajax was an extraordinary return. For Liverpool he has scored 15 league goals since his £22m transfer.

Last season Suárez hit the post eight times in the league – more than any other player. Bad luck? Over-thinking? Rodgers has told him there is no excuse; he just has to score. Shades of Bill Shankly: "If you're in the penalty area and you're not sure what to do, stick it in the net and we can discuss the options afterwards."

Suárez prefers to think in terms of scoring bursts. "In Holland I was lucky. It felt like everything went in. I could shoot with my shoulder or my tummy and it would go in. Now it's different. I understand that I have to score more goals than I am scoring. Maybe you try to be so precise to make sure that the keeper doesn't reach it that you end up hitting the post. Sometimes you hit it badly and it goes in. This year, maybe I'll try to hit it badly."

If the responsibility is great, so is the optimism under Rodgers. Suárez must score goals but he should not have to carry the team – he refers two or three times to feeling backed up by his team-mates. The new style is more his style. "It suits me," he says. "[Rodgers] knows I never stand still, that I am always moving, not a static, fixed striker, and he thinks that in the way we are going to play now I can do a lot of damage. He's a great coach. He has talent and you can see that he has studied in the way he plans his sessions. He talks constantly during training sessions and even speaks a bit of Spanish."

Rodgers's approach sets him apart in England, Suárez says. "There are lots of teams here that aren't very well set up tactically. He's a coach that can see that if you can work tactically you can derive a lot of benefit from that; you can be different. If you're well organised, and you can play the ball, you can be successful."

What does he mean by tactically poor? "Well," he says, starting to signal positions on the table with his fingers. "If I am playing centre forward here and I drop off the front into this area, both centre backs might come with me in England. And then a team-mate can go into the space and be one on one with the goalkeeper."

Signalling to the right-back position, he says: "Or, if you look at their line of four at the back and this guy always goes up the pitch and never comes back, then you can exploit that. Or if both full-backs go up, then you isolate the two centre-backs. When one full-back goes the other should stay and a midfielder drops in, but there are teams where that doesn't happen and you can take advantage. There are coaches who see that and coaches who don't. He sees it."

Then there is Liverpool's commitment to possession. "It is as the manager says: if all your defenders are very open and the goalkeeper is able to play a bit, it is impossible for the other team to get the ball off you. Then you have the midfielders who come in to get the ball off the back four and you play. His way of looking at the game is very intelligent and I think he's right. It's impossible for the other team to get the ball off you unless you make a simple mistake, a bad pass, an individual error."

Against West Brom that was exactly what happened. But contrary to some critics, coaches such as Rodgers would argue that does not mean the model should be thrown out. Confidence is needed to play this way, and that takes time. The temptation when under pressure is just to hoof it; you need nerve to keep playing and you learn that and are better for it. As Suárez points out, the hoof solves nothing either. "For me, playing in England where all the centre-backs are tall and strong, the long punt up the pitch is no good to me. I need the ball on the floor.

"It is always a difficult thing to start with a new manager and a new team system but I think we played fairly well against West Brom. We knew it would be difficult. It's OK because we trust in the new manager and we are all very happy with him.

"We now press higher up the pitch and it has to be collective, organised. If I go to pressure the man, I lead the pressure but I need to be backed by Steven and by, if we go by the first game, [Fabio] Borini or Stewart [Downing]. And if we all pressure together, then it works. But it's not easy. You need to be clear in the idea, you need to work at it and try to adapt to it bit by bit. Then, with time, you will be able to impose it.

"Obviously, we're not going to play like Barcelona but the aim is similar. The manager has been studying in Spain, in Barcelona itself, and he was in Holland too, where they play good football. The idea is nice, my team-mates are very happy with it. The idea is to have the ball all the time, to pressure to get it back. Keep the ball, don't panic, look for the spaces at the right time, not play so fast, so desperately, as we did last season.

"It is a new season, we have a new coach, a new idea, a new style that is different to the one we had before and that's difficult. It will work, but it will take time."

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/au...pool?CMP=twt_gu

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Hmmm interesting. Sterling and Borini played in their natural sides while we're sticking with Kelly & Johnson on fullbacks. Coates in instead of Carra isn't surprising but hopefully he rises to the occasion.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 26 2012, 10:14 PM)
If we lose this, someone is going to blame BR for starting Sterling. You hear it first
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And claim that we should have started Downing. laugh.gif

I think it's a good choice, it would give their RB something to think about with Johnson and Sterling playing on their flanks.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Aug 26 2012, 10:19 PM)
Both also like to cut inside... It's a bit surprising though that Sterling gets the nod for such a big game. Thought Henderson would have started in the middle with Gerrard switching to second striker....replacing downing...

Worth gambling anyway!
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Well, if Gerrard does poorly as he did at West Brom, I hope Hendo gets a sub.

QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Aug 26 2012, 10:20 PM)
Would BR put Suarez on the left and Borini in the middle I wonder
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Don't think he would play Sterling on the right, that's too much a gamble. Suarez on the right, Borini in the middle's possible though.
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QUOTE(MamulaMoon @ Aug 27 2012, 12:22 AM)
i think liverpool should go score second goal... but u guys didn't
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Skrtel giving the ball away was shocking. But it's bound to happen when we play it risky at the back. He'll learn from the mistake.

Having said that, very good performance by the team. BR talks about making Anfield a fortress again and this is a good foundation to build on. Not only we score almost immediately after the first goal, we didn't let our heads down after the 2nd.

Allen and Sterling are class acts, especially the former. Allen's the kind of player if was Spanish would see the media go gaga, but he isn't and escapes the limelight. Shelvey surprised me today after his poor performance on Thursday - didn't try to play the wonder passes or gave possession away. Good coaching by BR perhaps?

We still need to work on finishing though, both goals came from set piece and had we been clinical we would have been 2-0 up at half time.
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post Aug 27 2012, 01:16 AM

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From: Pea Jay


QUOTE(bitebug @ Aug 27 2012, 01:12 AM)
Either side works fine for me.
Anyways, I hope the error tonight taught the lads a lesson. Stop backpassing so much.

...And no more the godlike mode against strong team and heart attack mode against not-so-strong teams.
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BR has just came out to defend Skrtel's decision to backpass. There's no problem with passing it back to the keeper when you have someone of Reina's calibre. By playing the ball to the keeper's feet, you have an extra man advantage with the keeper as an outfield player. It also means the ball is on the ground and relieves the pressure off the defenders.

The only lesson to be learn is to look up before you pass it back.

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