I dont think Carra has the physical ability like distin or jagielka .. the closet version to carra from that match is Hibbert. I am surprised that manu didn't penetrate their opponent on hibbert side . While Osman is busy harassing evra on that side , I can see even hibbert manage to make some crosses into the box.

The player that impressed me tonite is fellaini , great first touch using his physical . Congratz to the bluenose and seriously , the everton fans here in liverpool are not too bad .

The commentor did mention that Fellaini = Carroll

Looking at the Everton's lineup, there were at least 3 former ManU players there, Howard,Gibson and Neville , wat the fcuk SAF like to sell its former players to our bitter rivals

Aye I think it's ludicrous to leave him out. He may not have scored against WBA but he was easily our most dangerous player. The problem with playing Carroll as a lone striker is that teams can nullify his presence by defending a high line. Carroll doesn't have the mobility or the pace to get in behind defenders. He's most effective in and around the box. Suarez, being the constant threat he is, forces defences to play tighter and deeper. Contesting the midfield to stem a tide of City attacks is one thing but we need to defend from the front and Suarez closes down defenders as good as anyone. Carroll doesn't do this as well for obvious reasons. I'd actually like to see Carroll play as the fulcrum with Suarez and Borini flanking him in an attacking trident. Playing Carroll alone against Lescott and Kompany will be akin to sending lambs to the slaughter house. Both defenders are quick and strong.

I have to agree that Carra is past it but I'm equally as hesitant about playing Coates against strikers with good mobility like Aguero or Tevez. To be honest, I'd much rather see Martin Kelly play in the middle for this one. I don't think he's getting the recognition he deserves, I thought he was one four best players against WBA but no one seems to have taken notice. He looks matured beyond his years. He doesn't commit silly challenges and he tracks players well. He can be exposed by express trains on the flank like any fullback (especially a 6'3" one) but he'd make a really quick central defender.

Seeing Fellani's performance against Man U kinda remind me what Carroll can do for us. Like Carroll, Fellani doesn't have the pace and mobility but he more than make up for it with his physical strength and aerial prowess. Very similar to how Owen and Fowler used to utilize the presence of Heskey during Houllier's time.

Regardless of brand of football you are playing, you gotta always have the balance of physicality, speed and technicality in a team. This is especially true in English football. IMO.

everton's victory showed one thing - defense. get it right first. did we close down the opponent fast enough? WBA even taught us a lesson on tiki taka. really need time to adapt.

owen's been linked with everton btw. that will almost complete his journey. next he should do is to move to mancity

Is this the normal formation of Liverpool's 4-2-3-1? I'm gonna start kickin' ass with Liverpool team on PES 2013.

Is Doni still in the team?

yes he is. is this formation and players what liverpool is using currently?

are we played with tiki taka?mill away from tiki taka...huhu

the cog will slowly get into place once gerrard find this footing (in his role, hopefully sooner)



i think borini, allen will come good. we are still finding a footing. though i wonder where did our confidence go after that bayer laverkusen game

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 21 2012, 10:43 AM

barca have been playin tiki-taka for almost 20years and you want we mastered tiki-taka in just one nite?
comeon get a life

that is exactly right. Some more, 80% of our existing players were from previous squad and how to convert them to play tiki taka immediately?

not possible

Reminds me of old boss Rafa Benitez. He place great emphasis on defence before offense and particularly has an eye for CBs. Words of wisdom from Rafa, always build your team from the defense up.

Which probably explains why he hardly got it wrong when it comes to buying defenders, but not the same can be said with his gamble in the striker department during his tenure with Liverpool.

Rafa oh rafa.

This post has been edited by carloz28: Aug 21 2012, 11:46 AM

I still remember Rafa's much criticized zonal defending especially on defending corners.. Turns out we had one of the best defence in the league and Europe.

This post has been edited by weichieh007: Aug 21 2012, 11:53 AM

Looks like we are gonna miss out on Sahin lads. There goes another potentially great signing. Damn I miss Rafa's era. Those days where we could literally bring any players to Liverpool. If only he had the money back then





And guys about the last match; we didn't have any air threat to west brom but why the crosses? Did the expect Suarez to head the ball in? We've seen what happened to his only header that game. IMO, this proves that they are still not used to BR's system. They looked awkward on the field except Suarez. Gerrard especially. I can see he was trying to play the low crosses and pass and move and stuff, but like I said, awkward. And his mistake cost us Agger

This post has been edited by bitebug: Aug 21 2012, 12:06 PM

Don't think it's tiki taka we were playing. Lol. But yeah, defence is key. I felt the players weren't closing down WBA players quickly enough that day. Need to regain possession as quickly as possible if we are to play tiki taka....or whatever that BR is trying to imply. If you see Barca play, they hound the opposition to regain possession. I'd like to see that more often when LFC plays.

Defence should start from the front. I miss Kuyt now...

Fellaini was easily the MOTM of the game. Key player in breaking the attack, scored the winner. Wow, his challenge in the air, on the ground, simply stunning. Should have get him instead of adam

No point reminiscing the past buddy. Have to look forward now.

To you guys who expect instant tiki taka football, i think it's advisable to lower down your expectations a bit. One of the main ingredients of tiki taka football is the midfield.

Look at our midfield at the moment. If I'm honest, Gerrard and co are not made for tiki taka, not especially when you throw in the Brit boys. British footballers are known for their tenacity rather than creativity. They are best suited to play high tempo football than fluid movement one touch football.

Arsenal is the only English team i know who advocate this style of play, under the great tutelage of Arsene Wenger, but still it don't win them trophies.

We need a good balance between tenacity and creativity, which is evident in all EPL winning teams.

More importantly, we need to have a winning mentality and never say die attitude to claw back from jaws of defeat, an attribute I have to yet to see in this Liverpool team yet.

did i said we already played with tiki-tka? i just qoute the person said west brom beat tiki-taka game?

brendan rodgers subscribed to spanish style game. so some say we got ala-rafa but affordable one.

As it is the reality of our club, we just don't have the financial muscle to pull in players, BR, well lfc is being built from ground zero. 3/4 of our squad are relatively young, except for gerrard who alone probably brought up the average age of the squad.

we have neighbours who buy on (big) credit to purchase/bank fergie's last attempt to really pull away the amount of league titles from us before he throws in the hat. we may envy the likes of RVP, even possibly big name kaka to don their red shirt whereas we only have borini, oussama, allen (many will scream who they?)

i think in time we'll see the fruits, i do reckon we might (just) be murdered in the next 5-6 games (tough games ahead). hopefully the fans will have patience.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: Aug 21 2012, 12:51 PM