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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Liverpool 0-2 Arsenal - 2nd defeat!

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dillonyong
post Sep 3 2012, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 3 2012, 05:14 PM)
Yeah I do wonder about that too sometimes. If we can get every fan to contribute 1 pound, that's a lot eh? My guess is its probably against some rules. But does it apply for fan owned clubs like Barca and Madrid? Is that why they are so feckin rich?
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I dont know, bro. Real and Barca are doing that I guess.
But if I have paid $200 for example and they use my money to sign Andy Caroll, I will be so pissed off. I will then use the Rafa Benitez's quote "I wanted a table but they got me a table lamp". LOL
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 3 2012, 04:40 PM)
thankz Boss! at least some relief after 1 points from 3 game. rclxms.gif
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post Sep 3 2012, 05:26 PM

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Did you guys read the 1000 over comments in the website?

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...mprove#comments

We are not the only moaners. LOL. Lots of unhappy people.
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post Sep 3 2012, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 3 2012, 05:26 PM)
Did you guys read the 1000 over comments in the website?

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-new...mprove#comments

We are not the only moaners. LOL. Lots of unhappy people.
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Some moaners there always think as if everything is like playing football manager or FIFA12.. very unrealistic..lol..
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post Sep 3 2012, 05:32 PM

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Anyone wanna take over as the Liverpool thread TS?

My real life commitments has really taken a toll of me. As such, I cant possibly spend as much time here as I used to be....

I think there are people who can do a hell lot of better job than me. Plus, I prefer trolling around actually. tongue.gif

Anyone interested? Please let me know.
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QUOTE(saikuan @ Sep 3 2012, 05:29 PM)
Some moaners there always think as if everything is like playing football manager or FIFA12.. very unrealistic..lol..
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I like this guy. He is sarcastic to the max. LOL.

ivorhardy1
2nd Sep 2012 16:51

"A lot of good?? Like the relentless giving the ball away, poor crossing, Suarez dining about and moaning, lack of finishing, Borini being as much use as a handbrake in a canoe? Yeah, loads of positives...."


Added on September 3, 2012, 5:34 pm
QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 3 2012, 05:32 PM)
Anyone wanna take over as the Liverpool thread TS?

My real life commitments has really taken a toll of me. As such, I cant possibly spend as much time here as I used to be....

I think there are people who can do a hell lot of better job than me. Plus, I prefer trolling around actually. tongue.gif

Anyone interested? Please let me know.
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But we prefer pretty female as TS. It's attractive. LOL biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by dillonyong: Sep 3 2012, 05:34 PM
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post Sep 3 2012, 05:51 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Sep 3 2012, 05:32 PM)
Anyone wanna take over as the Liverpool thread TS?

My real life commitments has really taken a toll of me. As such, I cant possibly spend as much time here as I used to be....

I think there are people who can do a hell lot of better job than me. Plus, I prefer trolling around actually. tongue.gif

Anyone interested? Please let me know.
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dillon top poster in the thread......

i sappok him...gox3 rclxms.gif
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post Sep 3 2012, 05:59 PM

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Terribly disappointed and frustrated to see how our team started this season. Work-in-progress is ok but we must pinpoint exactly what is going so wrong and take some drastic steps if necessary.

Henry's open letter is obviously one management response, but is useless in itself.

In my opinion, BR has to take some drastic and bold steps; and here are a few that are foremost on my mind :

1) rotate our goalkeeper - Reina is no longer as sharp, no thanks to having to chop the PL tree, the Carling cup tree, the Europa tree and the FA cup tree - use Jones or Doni! if they are really not good enough, then get a better reserve goalie!
2) start replacing Gerrard - whilst he's still admired by Reds fans, and not wait until fans start condemning him - start replacing by substituting him and then gradually start him on the bench. BR has to start implementing this immediately!
3) manage Suarez - yes, he's super wearing the Uruguay shirt but he's not delivering for us. Get him to stop complaining, stop gesturing (and getting unnecessary yellow cards) and start focusing on scoring or helping the team score more!

YNWA
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QUOTE(lfcreds91 @ Sep 3 2012, 05:51 PM)
dillon top poster in the thread......

i sappok him...gox3 rclxms.gif
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Thanks but I prefer to remain as the annoying critic. biggrin.gif. Taking care of thread will cause me to have grey hair. hehe
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post Sep 3 2012, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Sep 3 2012, 05:59 PM)
Terribly disappointed and frustrated to see how our team started this season. Work-in-progress is ok but we must pinpoint exactly what is going so wrong and take some drastic steps if necessary.

Henry's open letter is obviously one management response, but is useless in itself. 

In my opinion, BR has to take some drastic and bold steps; and here are a few that are foremost on my mind :

1) rotate our goalkeeper - Reina is no longer as sharp, no thanks to having to chop the PL tree, the Carling cup tree, the Europa tree and the FA cup tree - use Jones or Doni! if they are really not good enough, then get a better reserve goalie!
2) start replacing Gerrard - whilst he's still admired by Reds fans, and not wait until fans start condemning him - start replacing by substituting him and then gradually start him on the bench. BR has to start implementing this immediately!
3) manage Suarez - yes, he's super wearing the Uruguay shirt but he's not delivering for us. Get him to stop complaining, stop gesturing (and getting unnecessary yellow cards) and start focusing on scoring or helping the team score more!

YNWA
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Spot on about Suarez, he complains way too much and does too little constructive things for the team. Rotating goalie is not yet an option Doni and Jones are not good enough. Maybe we should have gotten Lloris to challenge Reina, it has been too long since someone has challenged his spot on the team.
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post Sep 3 2012, 06:12 PM

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1) Doni is nowhere to be seen. Our 2nd choice keeper is Jones. I dont know if its a good idea to play him. I suggest we bring back Xavi Valero as goalkeeping coach. He was with us under Rafa and Pepe performed very well under his guidance.

2) I agree if we drop Gerrard and dont give way to this dressing room political bollocks. Nobody is bigger than the club. I'd play Allen and Sahin with Shelvey in front of them.

3) You cant take that angry side of suarez away. Even he said it, if he isn't like that, he wont be a player as he is right now. I think he's just trying a little too hard to do all by himself. I prefer him to swap with Borini, Suarez wide right and Borini as the central striker.

well its just my suggestion, not the boss would read any of it anyway.
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QUOTE(murishige @ Sep 3 2012, 06:12 PM)
1) Doni is nowhere to be seen. Our 2nd choice keeper is Jones. I dont know if its a good idea to play him. I suggest we bring back Xavi Valero as goalkeeping coach. He was with us under Rafa and Pepe performed very well under his guidance.

2) I agree if we drop Gerrard and dont give way to this dressing room political bollocks. Nobody is bigger than the club. I'd play Allen and Sahin with Shelvey in front of them.

3) You cant take that angry side of suarez away. Even he said it, if he isn't like that, he wont be a player as he is right now. I think he's just trying a little too hard to do all by himself. I prefer him to swap with Borini, Suarez wide right and Borini as the central striker.

well its just my suggestion, not the boss would read any of it anyway.
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It's mystifying to see Reina and Gerrard massive drop of form lately. Maybe they are not used to the system as one website suggest?
Agree on the Suarez part. It's part of him and it will take a long time for him to change that. Look at Shrek (Rooney). He's tempestuous and now he has tone down mostly. But it took a long long time.
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post Sep 3 2012, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(dillonyong @ Sep 3 2012, 06:15 PM)
It's mystifying to see Reina and Gerrard massive drop of form lately. Maybe they are not used to the system as one website suggest?
Agree on the Suarez part. It's part of him and it will take a long time for him to change that. Look at Shrek (Rooney). He's tempestuous and now he has tone down mostly. But it took a long long time.
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Gerrard perhaps but would be weird to say Reina isn't used to playing in this system. He was brought up playing this type of football wasn't he?
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Sep 3 2012, 06:19 PM)
Gerrard perhaps but would be weird to say Reina isn't used to playing in this system. He was brought up playing this type of football wasn't he?
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I am puzzled as well. He should be at his prime now and Reina is not the kind that get easily distracted. Always a safe pair of hand. But lately, he's just disappointing. Something's wrong.
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Pepe was coached to play in this system when he was at La Masia(Barca Academy/Training).

As for Gerrard, he always rushed things. He doesn't need to go long when the best option is to play it short. The key to play this way is to have patience, keep recycling the ball and wait for key moments in final third.


Added on September 3, 2012, 6:27 pmfor Pepe its either loss of confidence or drop of form.

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Gerrad and Adam can never play well under BR style...

Adam was sold but cannot sell Gerrard.

Look at how Sahin and Allen played, even Sterling played better...

Time to say bye bye to Gerrard.
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post Sep 3 2012, 06:57 PM

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Despite the loss, there's still some positive to take from that. Sterling in my opinion is better than Ox, at least based on what we saw last night.
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If Sterling had Ox's physique, he would be awesome. Right now physically he isn't there yet but I'm excited to see what he can produce in the next few years.

As for Gerrard, I don't know what has gone wrong with his passing in the past year or so. Not as pinpoint as I would expected it to be. Probably 3 seasons of bad finishes in the league is taking its toll on captain fantastic?

Reina - Also another mystery. 3 errors already so far this season. And imo he didn't have a great year last season too. 2 matches in a row against Arsenal at Anfield he's made a mistake.

And btw, I'm not sure whether it's just me but I think perhaps Borini doesn't do enough defensively. I only watched the first half yesterday and the right side of out defence was exploited far too often imo.
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Sep 3 2012, 07:17 PM)
If Sterling had Ox's physique, he would be awesome. Right now physically he isn't there yet but I'm excited to see what he can produce in the next few years.

As for Gerrard, I don't know what has gone wrong with his passing in the past year or so. Not as pinpoint as I would expected it to be. Probably 3 seasons of bad finishes in the league is taking its toll on captain fantastic?

Reina - Also another mystery. 3 errors already so far this season. And imo he didn't have a great year last season too. 2 matches in a row against Arsenal at Anfield he's made a mistake.

And btw, I'm not sure whether it's just me but I think perhaps Borini doesn't do enough defensively. I only watched the first half yesterday and the right side of out defence was exploited far too often imo.
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Analysis of our game was that Glen Johnson was often roaming and running too far up the pitch where he was the furthest upfront even ahead of our forwards. So when he loses the ball, the right flank is there to be exploited. You can see that clearly in Podolski's goal. Of course he plays best as an attacking wing back but only if there is someone is there to do the defensive work for him, in the past there is Kuyt and then preseason there is Downing, now perhaps Borini should be doing it but he is a goalscorer it makes no sense for him to stay back when Glen roams forward.

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