QUOTE(dinozilla @ Apr 9 2007, 10:01 AM)
Oh really, Mr. Lim? Hahahaha... Lolx!!! This post has been edited by Pennywise: Apr 9 2007, 10:26 AM
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o sht.....got me dy......
littleway....found out his identity? |
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freaking funny to see u guys playing hide n seek game
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oh ya.....Mr tan......
hmm....not many Tan going to out station recently woh..... |
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You know, the one thing bad about SITI is the HR bureaucracy. Always talk about alignment. Take job groups, for example. When GITI (called SSI then) was first setup Lvl 1 is JG8, Lvl 2 & 3 support JG7. Now there are some new teams (SAP helpdesk, Fishtank) support staff at JG7 and JG6 respectively, but the old established jobs are still at JG7. In my view, Lvl 3 should have been JG6 to align with what the newer teams have been operating at, and also in recognition of their skill set. Oh well. I see this as their loss. Right now Lvl 2,3, RNM teams are losing a lot of people because the pay outside (for permanent) is better than what they're getting. And they're stubbornly refusing/not flexible enough to revise their figures/job scale as they want to align with other operating OUs in Malaysia. I was dissatisfied because however good a job I did, my increment was bad... (2-3%). And there was virtually no possibility of promotion.....so I left P.S. Promotion to higher job group basically means higher increment. This post has been edited by cwtien: Apr 11 2007, 05:19 PM |
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What's a fishtank team? Are they into fishing?
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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 11 2007, 04:55 PM) You know, the one thing bad about SITI is the HR bureaucracy. Always talk about alignment. Take job groups, for example. When GITI (called SSI then) was first setup Lvl 1 is JG8, Lvl 2 & 3 support JG7. Now there are some new teams (SAP helpdesk, Fishtank) support staff at JG7 and JG6 respectively, but the old established jobs are still at JG7. In my view, Lvl 3 should have been JG6 to align with what the newer teams have been operating at, and also in recognition of their skill set. Oh well. I see this as their loss. Right now Lvl 2,3, RNM teams are losing a lot of people because the pay outside (for permanent) is better than what they're getting. And they're stubbornly refusing/not flexible enough to revise their figures/job scale as they want to align with other operating OUs in Malaysia. I was dissatisfied because however good a job I did, my increment was bad... (2-3%). And there was virtually no possibility of promotion.....so I left P.S. Promotion to higher job group basically means higher increment. in malay , we called it "bersepah" bersepah = disperse . hahaaahha |
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we hav such a environment?????? where?
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oh.............that team.....
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Aquarium, right? What do they do? Swimming with sharks?
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huh....they r more danger than shark.....hahhahahaa
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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 11 2007, 04:55 PM) You know, the one thing bad about SITI is the HR bureaucracy. Always talk about alignment. Take job groups, for example. When GITI (called SSI then) was first setup Lvl 1 is JG8, Lvl 2 & 3 support JG7. Now there are some new teams (SAP helpdesk, Fishtank) support staff at JG7 and JG6 respectively, but the old established jobs are still at JG7. In my view, Lvl 3 should have been JG6 to align with what the newer teams have been operating at, and also in recognition of their skill set. Oh well. I see this as their loss. Right now Lvl 2,3, RNM teams are losing a lot of people because the pay outside (for permanent) is better than what they're getting. And they're stubbornly refusing/not flexible enough to revise their figures/job scale as they want to align with other operating OUs in Malaysia. I was dissatisfied because however good a job I did, my increment was bad... (2-3%). And there was virtually no possibility of promotion.....so I left P.S. Promotion to higher job group basically means higher increment. |
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QUOTE(babybiter @ Apr 15 2007, 12:38 PM) 2 things, your performance and your salary. They have a maximum salary level for a job grade, and the further up your salary is, the lower your increment.Just an example, suppose your group is JG7, with a salary cap of 6k, if there 2 people with identical performance, the person currently earning 3k will get higher increment (say 5-7%) than the person currently earning 5k (say 2-3%). You really start to notice it once your salary is about 70% of the cap. No matter how hard you work, if you cannot move up your job group (get promoted) your increment will suck. |
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QUOTE(dinozilla @ Apr 14 2007, 10:05 PM) Really? In what sense?QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 15 2007, 10:31 PM) Just an example, suppose your group is JG7, with a salary cap of 6k, if there 2 people with identical performance, the person currently earning 3k will get higher increment (say 5-7%) than the person currently earning 5k (say 2-3%). That's fair though - if you are in the same type of job and you perform similarily you should be earning roughly the same amount.You really start to notice it once your salary is about 70% of the cap. No matter how hard you work, if you cannot move up your job group (get promoted) your increment will suck. |
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QUOTE(cwtien @ Apr 15 2007, 10:31 PM) Just an example, suppose your group is JG7, with a salary cap of 6k, if there 2 people with identical performance, the person currently earning 3k will get higher increment (say 5-7%) than the person currently earning 5k (say 2-3%). What about those people who have been stating that the make 15k or 20k or whatever per month working on oil platforms abroad and stuff? Do they still get the same increment? Although I suppose many people here wouldn't mind a 3% increment on a 20k salary You really start to notice it once your salary is about 70% of the cap. No matter how hard you work, if you cannot move up your job group (get promoted) your increment will suck. |
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Apr 16 2007, 12:24 PM) What about those people who have been stating that the make 15k or 20k or whatever per month working on oil platforms abroad and stuff? Do they still get the same increment? Although I suppose many people here wouldn't mind a 3% increment on a 20k salary I am only specifically talking about SITI. I have no idea at what rate the platform people are in, but they are paid in US dollars and have allowances, so actually in USD terms the amount may be small (or comparable to what their compatriots are getting in US).Bottom line, I don't know This post has been edited by cwtien: Apr 16 2007, 03:55 PM |
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