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post Jun 24 2014, 07:41 AM

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post Jun 27 2014, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 21 2014, 05:36 PM)
How long have you been holding it? Still loosing how many %?
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bought at launching RM0.25 long ago, then some more at RM10.18 and also RM0.16, quite many years, cant remember.i started selling only recently at 18 sen +/-. around 1/4, so still holding 3/4. Overall is a loss >15%!

Looks like i must bite the bullet and sell some more?
No chance for it to move up abit more may be to 20sen?
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post Jun 27 2014, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:00 AM)
bought at launching RM0.25 long ago, then  some more at RM10.18 and also RM0.16, quite many years, cant remember.i started selling only recently at 18 sen +/-. around 1/4, so still holding 3/4. Overall is a loss >15%!

Looks like  i must bite the bullet and sell some more?
No chance for it to move up abit more may be to 20sen?
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China has up side potential. Pe is attractive. It will be your call and faith if china can perform.

I personall has china fund to bought around this year for diversification and i believe it can go up.

Your fund is down -15%, so depends how long you can keep. You think to beat 15% till.
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post Jun 27 2014, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 27 2014, 02:42 AM)
China has up side potential.  Pe is attractive. It will be your call and faith if china can perform.

I personall has china fund to bought around this year for diversification and i believe it can go up.

Your fund is down -15%, so depends how long you can keep. You think to beat 15% till.
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juz sharing those connection to CHINA(Shanghai stock exchange)


China Unveils List of 28 Companies Planning IPOs
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000...511073427245130


Happy New Year: The Chinese IPO Is Back
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jackperkowski/...se-ipo-is-back/


China's first IPOs in four months draw robust demand
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101775125#.

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post Jun 27 2014, 12:01 PM

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Laggard


What it is:

Laggard describes a stock that fails to perform as well as the overall market or a group of peers.

How it works/Example:

In a broad sense, the term laggard connotes resistance to progress and a persistent pattern of falling behind. In a financial sense, a laggard may be a stock or other market-traded security that has historically underperformed on a consistent basis. For example, if biotechnology stock ABC consistently posts annual returns of only 2% when other stocks in the industry post average returns of 5%, stock ABC would be considered a laggard.

Why it Matters:

If you hold them in your portfolio, laggards are generally the first candidates for selling. In the example above, holding a stock that returns 2% instead of one that returns 5% costs you 3% each year. Unless there is some solid reason to believe that a catalyst will lift shares of a stock that has historically lagged its competition, continuing to hold the laggard costs you money.

(copy & paste from http://www.investinganswers.com/financial-...t/laggard-3534)

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 27 2014, 02:42 AM)
China has up side potential.  Pe is attractive. It will be your call and faith if china can perform.

I personall has china fund to bought around this year for diversification and i believe it can go up.

Your fund is down -15%, so depends how long you can keep. You think to beat 15% till.
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Jun 27 2014, 08:43 AM)
juz sharing those connection to CHINA(Shanghai stock exchange)
China Unveils List of 28 Companies Planning IPOs
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000...511073427245130
Happy New Year: The Chinese IPO Is Back
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jackperkowski/...se-ipo-is-back/
China's first IPOs in four months draw robust demand
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101775125#.
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Sorry, guys... I need to challenge your views...

1. Please do not assume all funds are the same. And in direct connection to its underlying index or benchmark.

2. He was talking about a specify fund, and whether China has potential or not, that relationship is secondary. This was how he got into trouble in the first place. I know, since I was in his situation before, and that's how I got there. Too readily buying into the sales pitch "China has big potential". biggrin.gif

3. Just a quick look at the "Fund Performance" Chart for this fund, and flick through 3 years, 5 years, and since fund commencement will shows that this fund really, really underperformed its benchmark.

4. In the 1-year range, it has increased 17.14% (benchmark 18.03%). Still under performing, but keeping up with its benchmark. But note it is a volatile fund, can drop 10% in a matter of weeks as shown in the chart, dropping from about 17% to 7%. How will it fare in the near future? We can only speculate.

5. Whether to drop the fund, fully or partially... as mentioned too often, depends on how the structure of the portfolio should be. And at what stage is the portfolio.... if still at the beginning stage, then continue DCA to average down the costs of the units (if the fund is a permanent part of portfolio).

If the fund is too large (and too volatile to you) , then trim it by switching a portion of it to a more conservative fund (but foreign), or into a local fund.

6. Me? I don't have the patience... I dropped it like a hot potato 2 years ago, and it went up 24% since then. Regret? NO! I'm now having a much better portfolio (which suit my needs) and had more than recovered what I lost. (See the small caps YTD performance in the previous post... all better than PCSF's 0.39%.)


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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 27 2014, 03:38 PM)
Sorry, guys... I need to challenge your views...

1. Please do not assume all funds are the same. And in direct connection to its underlying index or benchmark.

2. He was talking about a specify fund, and whether China has potential or not, that relationship is secondary. This was how he got into trouble in the first place. I know, since I was in his situation before, and that's how I got there. Too readily buying into the sales pitch "China has big potential".  biggrin.gif

3. Just a quick look at the "Fund Performance" Chart for this fund, and flick through 3 years, 5 years, and since fund commencement will shows that this fund really, really underperformed its benchmark.

4. In the 1-year range, it has increased 17.14% (benchmark 18.03%). Still under performing, but keeping up with its benchmark.  But note it is a volatile fund, can drop 10% in a matter of weeks as shown in the chart, dropping from about 17% to 7%. How will it fare in the near future? We can only speculate.

5. Whether to drop the fund, fully or partially... as mentioned too often, depends on how the structure of the portfolio should be. And at what stage is the portfolio.... if still at the beginning stage, then continue DCA to average down the costs of the units (if the fund is a permanent part of portfolio).

If the fund is too large (and too volatile to you) , then trim it by switching a portion of it to a more conservative fund (but foreign), or into a local fund.

6. Me? I don't have the patience... I dropped it like a hot potato 2 years ago, and it went up 24% since then. Regret? NO! I'm now having a much better portfolio (which suit my needs) and had more than recovered what I lost. (See the small caps YTD performance in the previous post... all better than PCSF's 0.39%.)
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post Jun 27 2014, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 27 2014, 03:38 PM)
Sorry, guys... I need to challenge your views...

1. Please do not assume all funds are the same. And in direct connection to its underlying index or benchmark.

2. He was talking about a specify fund, and whether China has potential or not, that relationship is secondary. This was how he got into trouble in the first place. I know, since I was in his situation before, and that's how I got there. Too readily buying into the sales pitch "China has big potential".  biggrin.gif

3. Just a quick look at the "Fund Performance" Chart for this fund, and flick through 3 years, 5 years, and since fund commencement will shows that this fund really, really underperformed its benchmark.

4. In the 1-year range, it has increased 17.14% (benchmark 18.03%). Still under performing, but keeping up with its benchmark.  But note it is a volatile fund, can drop 10% in a matter of weeks as shown in the chart, dropping from about 17% to 7%. How will it fare in the near future? We can only speculate.

5. Whether to drop the fund, fully or partially... as mentioned too often, depends on how the structure of the portfolio should be. And at what stage is the portfolio.... if still at the beginning stage, then continue DCA to average down the costs of the units (if the fund is a permanent part of portfolio).

If the fund is too large (and too volatile to you) , then trim it by switching a portion of it to a more conservative fund (but foreign), or into a local fund.

6. Me? I don't have the patience... I dropped it like a hot potato 2 years ago, and it went up 24% since then. Regret? NO! I'm now having a much better portfolio (which suit my needs) and had more than recovered what I lost. (See the small caps YTD performance in the previous post... all better than PCSF's 0.39%.)
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post Jun 27 2014, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(MakNok @ Sep 1 2012, 10:45 PM)
now i am waiting for malaysia market to perform badly..
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And two years later you are still waiting, while people have made 30% or more already smile.gif



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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 27 2014, 04:43 PM)
And two years later you are still waiting, while people have made 30% or more already smile.gif
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still waiting lo...

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post Jun 27 2014, 11:54 PM

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so it's a sell. noticed the PCSF price above 0.18 already. Monday sell more and transfer to FSM can buy FSM UT at 0% fee
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post Jun 28 2014, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 27 2014, 11:54 PM)
so it's a sell. noticed the PCSF price above 0.18 already. Monday sell more and transfer to FSM can buy FSM UT at 0% fee
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Gud decision u made there rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 28 2014, 12:54 AM)
so it's a sell. noticed the PCSF price above 0.18 already. Monday sell more and transfer to FSM can buy FSM UT at 0% fee
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Welcome welcome... Which fund in FSM you targeting?
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post Jun 29 2014, 09:06 PM

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Have anyone with double thumb print broken trying to invest with EPF? I got a form KP12 from JPN and am going to invest using EPF. My question is - apart from the KP12 form and necessary sales form, what other special form is require by Public Mutual in order to withdraw the cash?
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Jun 29 2014, 09:06 PM)
Have anyone with double thumb print broken trying to invest with EPF? I got a form KP12 from JPN and am going to invest using EPF. My question is - apart from the KP12 form and necessary sales form, what other special form is require by Public Mutual in order to withdraw the cash?
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photocopy of nric + kp12 + your signature+ and your set of thumbprints. that about it...
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post Jun 30 2014, 05:37 PM

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QUOTE(elisewang @ Jun 30 2014, 03:13 PM)
photocopy of nric + kp12 + your signature+ and your set of thumbprints. that about it...
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Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it!
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 22 2014, 09:37 PM)
RM25.

If the fund is less than 90 days old, there is a penalty of 0.75% or a minimum of RM50.

Registered for Public Mutual Online, and do the switches online at your convenience... do it before 4.00 pm for same day NAV pricing.
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I always got confused with this NAV same day or next day thing. If I buy before 4pm, it will be using yesterday EOD price that is available today (known already) or it will be price that will be calculated at end of day today (unknown yet) and available tomorrow? Please help to clarify. Thanks.

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post Jul 1 2014, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jul 1 2014, 02:56 PM)
I always got confused with this NAV same day or next day thing. If I buy before 4pm, it will be using yesterday EOD price that is available today (known already) or it will be price that will be calculated at end of day today (unknown yet) and available tomorrow? Please help to clarify. Thanks.
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If you buy X fund today at 3:59pm your money will buy the fund at today's NAV which will be only made known tomorrow.

If you hit the buy button at 4:01pm, then your money will buy the fund at tomorrow's NAV which will only be made known the day after tomorrow.

Hope this help.

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 1 2014, 03:10 PM)
If you buy X fund today at 3:59pm your money will buy the fund at today's NAV which will be only made known tomorrow.

If you hit the buy button at 4:01pm, then your money will buy the fund at tomorrow's NAV which will only be made known the day after tomorrow.

Hope this help.

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Thanks. Very clear now.

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