Dear Unitholder, We are pleased to attach the market wrap and bond market review for the week/fortnight ended 6 June 2014 for your information. Regards Customer Service
Public Mutual v4, Public/PB series funds
Public Mutual v4, Public/PB series funds
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Jun 24 2014, 07:41 AM
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Dear Unitholder, We are pleased to attach the market wrap and bond market review for the week/fortnight ended 6 June 2014 for your information. Regards Customer Service
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Jun 27 2014, 12:00 AM
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 21 2014, 05:36 PM) bought at launching RM0.25 long ago, then some more at RM10.18 and also RM0.16, quite many years, cant remember.i started selling only recently at 18 sen +/-. around 1/4, so still holding 3/4. Overall is a loss >15%!Looks like i must bite the bullet and sell some more? No chance for it to move up abit more may be to 20sen? |
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Jun 27 2014, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Jun 27 2014, 01:00 AM) bought at launching RM0.25 long ago, then some more at RM10.18 and also RM0.16, quite many years, cant remember.i started selling only recently at 18 sen +/-. around 1/4, so still holding 3/4. Overall is a loss >15%! China has up side potential. Pe is attractive. It will be your call and faith if china can perform. Looks like i must bite the bullet and sell some more? No chance for it to move up abit more may be to 20sen? I personall has china fund to bought around this year for diversification and i believe it can go up. Your fund is down -15%, so depends how long you can keep. You think to beat 15% till. |
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Jun 27 2014, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 27 2014, 02:42 AM) China has up side potential. Pe is attractive. It will be your call and faith if china can perform. juz sharing those connection to CHINA(Shanghai stock exchange)I personall has china fund to bought around this year for diversification and i believe it can go up. Your fund is down -15%, so depends how long you can keep. You think to beat 15% till. China Unveils List of 28 Companies Planning IPOs http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000...511073427245130 Happy New Year: The Chinese IPO Is Back http://www.forbes.com/sites/jackperkowski/...se-ipo-is-back/ China's first IPOs in four months draw robust demand http://www.cnbc.com/id/101775125#. This post has been edited by felixmask: Jun 27 2014, 08:49 AM |
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Jun 27 2014, 12:01 PM
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Laggard
What it is: Laggard describes a stock that fails to perform as well as the overall market or a group of peers. How it works/Example: In a broad sense, the term laggard connotes resistance to progress and a persistent pattern of falling behind. In a financial sense, a laggard may be a stock or other market-traded security that has historically underperformed on a consistent basis. For example, if biotechnology stock ABC consistently posts annual returns of only 2% when other stocks in the industry post average returns of 5%, stock ABC would be considered a laggard. Why it Matters: If you hold them in your portfolio, laggards are generally the first candidates for selling. In the example above, holding a stock that returns 2% instead of one that returns 5% costs you 3% each year. Unless there is some solid reason to believe that a catalyst will lift shares of a stock that has historically lagged its competition, continuing to hold the laggard costs you money. (copy & paste from http://www.investinganswers.com/financial-...t/laggard-3534) |
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Jun 27 2014, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jun 27 2014, 02:42 AM) China has up side potential. Pe is attractive. It will be your call and faith if china can perform. I personall has china fund to bought around this year for diversification and i believe it can go up. Your fund is down -15%, so depends how long you can keep. You think to beat 15% till. QUOTE(felixmask @ Jun 27 2014, 08:43 AM) juz sharing those connection to CHINA(Shanghai stock exchange) Sorry, guys... I need to challenge your views...China Unveils List of 28 Companies Planning IPOs http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1000...511073427245130 Happy New Year: The Chinese IPO Is Back http://www.forbes.com/sites/jackperkowski/...se-ipo-is-back/ China's first IPOs in four months draw robust demand http://www.cnbc.com/id/101775125#. 1. Please do not assume all funds are the same. And in direct connection to its underlying index or benchmark. 2. He was talking about a specify fund, and whether China has potential or not, that relationship is secondary. This was how he got into trouble in the first place. I know, since I was in his situation before, and that's how I got there. Too readily buying into the sales pitch "China has big potential". 3. Just a quick look at the "Fund Performance" Chart for this fund, and flick through 3 years, 5 years, and since fund commencement will shows that this fund really, really underperformed its benchmark. 4. In the 1-year range, it has increased 17.14% (benchmark 18.03%). Still under performing, but keeping up with its benchmark. But note it is a volatile fund, can drop 10% in a matter of weeks as shown in the chart, dropping from about 17% to 7%. How will it fare in the near future? We can only speculate. 5. Whether to drop the fund, fully or partially... as mentioned too often, depends on how the structure of the portfolio should be. And at what stage is the portfolio.... if still at the beginning stage, then continue DCA to average down the costs of the units (if the fund is a permanent part of portfolio). If the fund is too large (and too volatile to you) , then trim it by switching a portion of it to a more conservative fund (but foreign), or into a local fund. 6. Me? I don't have the patience... I dropped it like a hot potato 2 years ago, and it went up 24% since then. Regret? NO! I'm now having a much better portfolio (which suit my needs) and had more than recovered what I lost. (See the small caps YTD performance in the previous post... all better than PCSF's 0.39%.) |
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Jun 27 2014, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 27 2014, 03:38 PM) Sorry, guys... I need to challenge your views... so long explain....... 1. Please do not assume all funds are the same. And in direct connection to its underlying index or benchmark. 2. He was talking about a specify fund, and whether China has potential or not, that relationship is secondary. This was how he got into trouble in the first place. I know, since I was in his situation before, and that's how I got there. Too readily buying into the sales pitch "China has big potential". 3. Just a quick look at the "Fund Performance" Chart for this fund, and flick through 3 years, 5 years, and since fund commencement will shows that this fund really, really underperformed its benchmark. 4. In the 1-year range, it has increased 17.14% (benchmark 18.03%). Still under performing, but keeping up with its benchmark. But note it is a volatile fund, can drop 10% in a matter of weeks as shown in the chart, dropping from about 17% to 7%. How will it fare in the near future? We can only speculate. 5. Whether to drop the fund, fully or partially... as mentioned too often, depends on how the structure of the portfolio should be. And at what stage is the portfolio.... if still at the beginning stage, then continue DCA to average down the costs of the units (if the fund is a permanent part of portfolio). If the fund is too large (and too volatile to you) , then trim it by switching a portion of it to a more conservative fund (but foreign), or into a local fund. 6. Me? I don't have the patience... I dropped it like a hot potato 2 years ago, and it went up 24% since then. Regret? NO! I'm now having a much better portfolio (which suit my needs) and had more than recovered what I lost. (See the small caps YTD performance in the previous post... all better than PCSF's 0.39%.) whatever juz news/infor |
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Jun 27 2014, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 27 2014, 03:38 PM) Sorry, guys... I need to challenge your views... Gud Info 1. Please do not assume all funds are the same. And in direct connection to its underlying index or benchmark. 2. He was talking about a specify fund, and whether China has potential or not, that relationship is secondary. This was how he got into trouble in the first place. I know, since I was in his situation before, and that's how I got there. Too readily buying into the sales pitch "China has big potential". 3. Just a quick look at the "Fund Performance" Chart for this fund, and flick through 3 years, 5 years, and since fund commencement will shows that this fund really, really underperformed its benchmark. 4. In the 1-year range, it has increased 17.14% (benchmark 18.03%). Still under performing, but keeping up with its benchmark. But note it is a volatile fund, can drop 10% in a matter of weeks as shown in the chart, dropping from about 17% to 7%. How will it fare in the near future? We can only speculate. 5. Whether to drop the fund, fully or partially... as mentioned too often, depends on how the structure of the portfolio should be. And at what stage is the portfolio.... if still at the beginning stage, then continue DCA to average down the costs of the units (if the fund is a permanent part of portfolio). If the fund is too large (and too volatile to you) , then trim it by switching a portion of it to a more conservative fund (but foreign), or into a local fund. 6. Me? I don't have the patience... I dropped it like a hot potato 2 years ago, and it went up 24% since then. Regret? NO! I'm now having a much better portfolio (which suit my needs) and had more than recovered what I lost. (See the small caps YTD performance in the previous post... all better than PCSF's 0.39%.) |
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Jun 27 2014, 04:43 PM
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Jun 27 2014, 05:13 PM
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Jun 27 2014, 11:54 PM
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so it's a sell. noticed the PCSF price above 0.18 already. Monday sell more and transfer to FSM can buy FSM UT at 0% fee
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Jun 28 2014, 04:13 PM
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Jun 28 2014, 04:27 PM
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Jun 29 2014, 09:06 PM
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Have anyone with double thumb print broken trying to invest with EPF? I got a form KP12 from JPN and am going to invest using EPF. My question is - apart from the KP12 form and necessary sales form, what other special form is require by Public Mutual in order to withdraw the cash?
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Jun 30 2014, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(guanteik @ Jun 29 2014, 09:06 PM) Have anyone with double thumb print broken trying to invest with EPF? I got a form KP12 from JPN and am going to invest using EPF. My question is - apart from the KP12 form and necessary sales form, what other special form is require by Public Mutual in order to withdraw the cash? photocopy of nric + kp12 + your signature+ and your set of thumbprints. that about it... |
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Jun 30 2014, 05:37 PM
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Jun 30 2014, 11:02 PM
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Jul 1 2014, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Jun 22 2014, 09:37 PM) RM25. I always got confused with this NAV same day or next day thing. If I buy before 4pm, it will be using yesterday EOD price that is available today (known already) or it will be price that will be calculated at end of day today (unknown yet) and available tomorrow? Please help to clarify. Thanks.If the fund is less than 90 days old, there is a penalty of 0.75% or a minimum of RM50. Registered for Public Mutual Online, and do the switches online at your convenience... do it before 4.00 pm for same day NAV pricing. This post has been edited by kimyee73: Jul 1 2014, 02:57 PM |
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Jul 1 2014, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Jul 1 2014, 02:56 PM) I always got confused with this NAV same day or next day thing. If I buy before 4pm, it will be using yesterday EOD price that is available today (known already) or it will be price that will be calculated at end of day today (unknown yet) and available tomorrow? Please help to clarify. Thanks. If you buy X fund today at 3:59pm your money will buy the fund at today's NAV which will be only made known tomorrow. If you hit the buy button at 4:01pm, then your money will buy the fund at tomorrow's NAV which will only be made known the day after tomorrow. Hope this help. Xuzen |
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Jul 1 2014, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Jul 1 2014, 03:10 PM) If you buy X fund today at 3:59pm your money will buy the fund at today's NAV which will be only made known tomorrow. Thanks. Very clear now.If you hit the buy button at 4:01pm, then your money will buy the fund at tomorrow's NAV which will only be made known the day after tomorrow. Hope this help. Xuzen |
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