does the ABS+EBD important? braking issue only happen for persona?
thinking of new persona b-line...haha

This is old news lar....thats why I avoid using these brands if buy from unknown sources. Barhdahl also one of the most popularly imitated brands too even tho its already consider a budget FS. There's a lot of fake bardahl in the market.

My hondas using Idemitsu FS also purchase from outside with RM40 cheaper....initially also worry its fake but after using for 2-3 change, so far engine still silent at near 5K, engine vibration still minimal as usual (FS less vibration than mineral or semi), performance still good as usual, so thats why still continue using even tho there is still a lingering doubt there up to now.

Its not likely to be imitated tho coz Idemitsu is not widely available at part shop. It goes directly to car workshop or service centre, no selling to part shop thus market demand is not high unlike those shell, castrol, bardahl, etc. I'm betting on this point to continue buying my idemitsu fs from this source.

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Added on August 6, 2012, 11:08 amWarranty's over already. Is tightening hard? If it isn't I might consider DIY.

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Aug 6 2012, 11:08 AM

Its not a braking issue.. Its just that the brakes are a bit weak for such a heavy car.. A simple upgrade of the servo to a double layer servo and better brake pads can solve the problem mostly.

Mine also the same stuffs. Cos my car was under warranty, they just replaced it for me. They just bend the clips slightly in to let it touch more area. Saw my cousin bro doing for his wira before and it doesnt seem that hard. But if its spoilt u will have to replace it then.

One of key reason of brake not work so well for B and M line is the brake bump. B and M is using the brake bump used in 1.3 saga that provide insufficient braking power for 1.2 tons 1.6 liter PE.

H-Line is using brake pump used in Gen 2 or is it Satria Neo....not sure...but its a brake pump MEANT for 1.6 liter car like PE, thus H-Line has sufficient braking power coupled with ABS that makes braking distance ok even for stock brake pad.

thats mean just a simple upgrade on brake pad will do? thanks for your advice

Upgrade of the brake pad AND brake servo will do..

I'm currently driving a B-Line Persona, and no, changing brake pads alone is still not enough. The car's running on Bendix Metal King atm and even after pressing it fully the thing just goes forward as if there wasn't any braking going on. Nearly got myself into a few accidents where my car looked as if it was about to kiss the butt of the cars ahead of me.

same here!
even saga's locking sound is softer...
my sister questioned me whether my lock got prob or not bcz of d locking sound so loud...

Hai... all...

Long time not online... wahhh very fast .... now v. XLI

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Added on August 6, 2012, 1:01 pmGot one problem here...

Kindly explain to me if there any one who facing the same problem...

My car got whizzle sound at the power steering pump when turning the steering wheel (at the same time we press the acceleartor padel). Sometimes can be heard in the car event in the straight way.

Is it normal or...... ???

This post has been edited by mafarizan: Aug 6 2012, 01:01 PM

Saga's lock quite violent leh

Ok . My left passenger door lock doesn't seem to have any problem already . Just installed the grounding cables today but no chance to drive the car yet .

no. just some states having holidays

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Added on August 6, 2012, 2:58 pmHaving a question, How much roughly will it be if my wiper water stuff spoiled??
Last time asked before, some told me is the pumping stuff spoilt?

I checked, when pressing it, no water spray on my windscreen. the sound of spraying macam dun have also. not very sure.

This post has been edited by Woon Ann: Aug 6 2012, 02:58 PM

BUMP

Maybe the tube connecting the nozzle to the pump is disconnected?

Why I drive my friend's saga flx doesn't have autolock one?

In genting now... This morning drive up that time got weird loud ngehhh noise after 3k rpm...

Any idea how much gen2 or persona H-line brake servo cost?

It is installed aftermarket, plug n play to the alarm module.

Then how to unlock?