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 Kiara Residence 2, Bukit Jalil / Bukit OUG v2, A concept quadrant zone living in BJ

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post Jun 25 2015, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 25 2015, 02:08 PM)
Yes, it would be affected by each other as long as more units complete for time being.

IMHO, due to entry price and specs, KR2 owners would not ask anything lower than RM 600 psf for Type A and RM 550 psf for Type C. As that was the benchmark price for KR1 and I suggested its fair that KR2 pricing on subsale should stands RM 50 psf above KR1 where RM 100 psf in a year time separated both projects upon launching. KR1 has pro n con of being low density but the quality of materials used was better than my Zest.

If to mention of win win situation and another RM 100 psf on top of all current asking price of KR2, KR1 and ZR, definitely its good for us as existing owners. But, if to put into a shoe of a subsale buyer, I believe I wont buy at all. Not KR2 to be fair, not KR1 and not even ZR.

The LRT road definitely will give this triangle a boost but I have less confident on LRT operations to boost up the price like most of my frens did.

Meanwhile, Type C at middle floor at KR2 Tower 1 was booked at RM 780k 2 mths ago and awaiting S&P signing to complete the transaction. The asking price now would be min RM 800k and RM 830k or above for Tower 3.

All the best bro. Anyhow of the situation of KR2, ur Type C at KR1 would still be the best asset in terms of capital earning.
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So looks like the developer units already transacted at RM535/sft. Once LRT fully operational, it should add another $50/sft which means $580/sft? For Type C Tower 3, it's fair to sell above RM800k.
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post Jun 25 2015, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 25 2015, 02:08 PM)
Meanwhile, Type C at middle floor at KR2 Tower 1 was booked at RM 780k 2 mths ago and awaiting S&P signing to complete the transaction. The asking price now would be min RM 800k and RM 830k or above for Tower 3.
Any 'transacted' Type C units at KR2 Tower 3?
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post Jun 25 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 25 2015, 02:59 PM)
Any 'transacted' Type C units at KR2 Tower 3?
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Not sure bcz seldom keep in touch with developer's agents.

Heard my friend told me some buyer is looking for biggies now as they received calls from agents mentioned buyers looking for their 1595 sq ft or if not, 1457 sq ft. I didnt receive any call anyway since last 2 months.

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 25 2015, 03:33 PM)
Not sure bcz seldom keep in touch with developer's agents.

Heard my friend told me some buyer is looking for biggies now as they received calls from agents mentioned buyers looking for their 1595 sq ft or if not, 1457 sq ft. I didnt receive any call anyway since last 2 months.
I only got 1 call so far for my 1457sf units around 3 months ago. RM500psf which I obviously said NO.
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post Jun 25 2015, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jun 25 2015, 02:29 PM)
So looks like the developer units already transacted at RM535/sft. Once LRT fully operational, it should add another $50/sft which means $580/sft? For Type C Tower 3, it's fair to sell above RM800k.
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No bro, that RM 535 psf was subsale, guess it was the first blood subsale of KR2.

Meanwhile, I hope the new LRT access road will be able to fetch KR2 to another higher scale but I still predict it wont be much. The new access road is much more important than the LRT operation, at least in my opinion.

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post Jun 25 2015, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 25 2015, 03:36 PM)
I only got 1 call so far for my 1457sf units around 3 months ago. RM500psf which I obviously said NO.
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Weird, the calls I received was informed that a buyer looking for Type C, any block but facing North / Kesas / Pool and offer RM 780k. Similarly, my friends ( the view of the unit the buyer looking for ) received the same calls and offered RM 780k too, but they insists on selling at RM 800-850k, lol.

While my unit was facing the opposition, the agent added on how much I looking for sale but I said not then.

If RM 500 psf, I will ask the agent go study the surrounding price or why dont call to KM 1 West, The Treez or KM 1 East to sell the same price at RM 500 psf!

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 25 2015, 03:41 PM)
Weird, the calls I received was informed that a buyer looking for Type C, any block but facing North / Kesas / Pool and offer RM 780k. Similarly, my friends ( the view of the unit the buyer looking for ) received the same calls and offered RM 780k too, but they insists on selling at RM 800-850k, lol.

While my unit was facing the opposition, the agent added on how much I looking for sale but I said not then.

If RM 500 psf, I will ask the agent go study the surrounding price or why dont call to KM 1 West, The Treez or KM 1 East to sell the same price at RM 500 psf!
Now that u mentioned the RM780K price tag, I think I made a mistake. It was the same buyer I think. So that would be RM535 psf and not RM500 psf as I indicated.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 25 2015, 03:44 PM)
Now that u mentioned the RM780K price tag, I think I made a mistake. It was the same buyer I think. So that would be RM535 psf and not RM500 psf as I indicated.
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Ic. No issue.

If not mistaken, I think my previous post / comment 2 months back was still indicated RM 780k or RM 535 psf for the 1st unit of Type C sold at Tower 1 ( if not 2 ), consider low floor.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 25 2015, 01:03 PM)
Any idea what are reno costs now? The last time I did any condo reno was in 2012.
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It really depends on your requirements and budget. I've seen decent Reno and they spent about RM50k.

I personally spent about RM70k including furniture and applicances. Could've done with less.
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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Jun 25 2015, 04:41 PM)
It really depends on your requirements and budget. I've seen decent Reno and they spent about RM50k.

I personally spent about RM70k including furniture and applicances. Could've done with less.
Yes. But in my case, both units are for investment. So if im gonna rent out, reno would be slightly different compared to a direct sale. My last reno for a 1356sf unit and fit out with quality fixtures in 2012 cost me RM 37K. But my condo where im staying now, I spent 30K on renovation which was quite extensive + 36K on fit out back in 2009.

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Jun 25 2015, 04:41 PM)
It really depends on your requirements and budget. I've seen decent Reno and they spent about RM50k.

I personally spent about RM70k including furniture and applicances. Could've done with less.
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Bro, it's tastefully spent . Visited your unit during internet installation, love how every pieces come together nicely. Also gained some ideas looking at your unit's reno.

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 25 2015, 05:23 PM)
Yes. But in my case, both units are for investment. So if im gonna rent out, reno would be slightly different compared to a direct sale. My last reno for a 1356sf unit and fit out with quality fixtures in 2012 cost me RM 37K. But my condo where im staying now, I spent 30K on renovation which was quite extensive + 36K on fit out back in 2009.
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I wish to sell my unit but I am not too excited about selling it now as I see that my profitability will suffer significantly due to :-

1. RPGT.
2. Loan lock-in period.

Anyone know if how easy to get the bank will approve a waiver on the penalty ? I remember for my case of 90% loaner, the disbursement was quite early, and so the 3 years of lock-in period for my case might happen quite soon. So it might be better for me to wait till it expires.

Alternatively I will rent it out in the meantime. Then come my next question. What's the minimum renovation which will be good for rental purposes ? I am looking at perhaps 20k region.

What do you guys think ?
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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 26 2015, 02:20 PM)
I wish to sell my unit but I am not too excited about selling it now as I see that my profitability will suffer significantly due to :-

1. RPGT.
2. Loan lock-in period.

Anyone know if how easy to get the bank will approve a waiver on the penalty ? I remember for my case of 90% loaner, the disbursement was quite early, and so the 3 years of lock-in period for my case might happen quite soon. So it might be better for me to wait till it expires.

Alternatively I will rent it out in the meantime. Then come my next question. What's the minimum renovation which will be good for rental purposes ? I am looking at perhaps 20k region.

What do you guys think ?
For rental its not so much on reno but on fit out. Im also planning for reno and I already have 1 other condo on rental at TTDI. In our case with KR2, its gonna be a buyers / renters market because there will be many units up for sale or rent. So you need to stand out enough to get a decent rental but not too much that it empties your pocket.

I would do minor work on my KR2 units e.g plaster ceiling, built in cabinets, fittings for toilets, kitchen etc. Electrical items I will get from Legends SS2. Ive gotten very good prices from them since 2009 so I will go back to them. I anticipate my budget to be about 15-20K max for each unit. I have another 4 units bought by close friends and family members here at KR2 so ill surely nego with 1 contractor to get a good reno price for all 6.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 26 2015, 02:39 PM)
For rental its not so much on reno but on fit out. Im also planning for reno and I already have 1 other condo on rental at TTDI. In our case with KR2, its gonna be a buyers / renters market because there will be many units up for sale or rent. So you need to stand out enough to get a decent rental but not too much that it empties your pocket.

I would do minor work on my KR2 units e.g plaster ceiling, built in cabinets, fittings for toilets, kitchen etc. Electrical items I will get from Legends SS2. Ive gotten very good prices from them since 2009 so I will go back to them. I anticipate my budget to be about 15-20K max for each unit. I have another 4 units bought by close friends and family members here at KR2 so ill surely nego with 1 contractor to get a good reno price for all 6.
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Good advise! Yeah basic reno is what I am looking at. Maybe you can add mine into it to make it all 7. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Good advise!  Yeah basic reno is what I am looking at. Maybe you can add mine into it to make it all 7.  icon_rolleyes.gif
Can no problem. We can finalise our options once we get VP end of the year. The more the easier to nego with contractors / suppliers.
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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 26 2015, 02:50 PM)
Can no problem. We can finalise our options once we get VP end of the year. The more the easier to nego with contractors / suppliers.
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Btw, the 15k-20k budget is inclusive or exclusive of the electrical applicances ? How much to allocate for them ?
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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 26 2015, 02:20 PM)
I wish to sell my unit but I am not too excited about selling it now as I see that my profitability will suffer significantly due to :-

1. RPGT.
2. Loan lock-in period.

Anyone know if how easy to get the bank will approve a waiver on the penalty ? I remember for my case of 90% loaner, the disbursement was quite early, and so the 3 years of lock-in period for my case might happen quite soon. So it might be better for me to wait till it expires.

Alternatively I will rent it out in the meantime. Then come my next question. What's the minimum renovation which will be good for rental purposes ? I am looking at perhaps 20k region.

What do you guys think ?
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Hmm, I thought that you cancelled off your purchase 2-3 years back? No?

Good idea of costing if to flip now. Yes, RPGT is one of the key criteria beside loan penalty of 2-3%, esp for 90% loan borrower.

My 3 years RPGT would be expired by Nov 2015, entering 4th year so it would be 20% charged. I could hold till my lock in expired on next year March / Apr 2016 as the 2% cost me about RM 10-12k.

But if I plan to rent out first, I would rent out at semi furnished only and to keep the costs down, as well as min 2 years to wait the 5th year RPGT expiry. Or else, if just reno and rent out for a year, the costs is not significant enough to cover unless huge appreciation in a year time.

For me, as the unit already comes with grille door, kitchencabinet with hob & hood, water heaters and air cons, the cost really save us a lot for rental purpose. I only will do plaster ceiling, lighting, add some power points sockets and thats all. If I to buy bedrooms set, sofa, coffee table, TV, fridge and etc appliances to make it full furnished, this easily cost RM 10-20k, and it took me longer time to cover unless for long term purpose.


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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 26 2015, 02:20 PM)
I wish to sell my unit but I am not too excited about selling it now as I see that my profitability will suffer significantly due to :-
1. RPGT.
2. Loan lock-in period.
RPGT is calculated from the SPA date. So if your SPA was signed in Jan 2013 (like me), if I decide to sell in 2016, I will kena 30% RPGT tax on the chargeable gain.

If this is your first property disposal, you get a full waiver. For subsequent disposals, you get a RM10K or 10% (whichever is higher) waiver on your profits.

Chargeable Gain = Disposal Price - Purchased Price (based on SPA) - Exemption waiver

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Jun 26 2015, 03:51 PM)
RPGT is calculated from the SPA date. So if your SPA was signed in Jan 2013 (like me), if I decide to sell in 2016, I will kena 30% RPGT tax on the chargeable gain.

If this is your first property disposal, you get a full waiver. For subsequent disposals, you get a RM10K or 10% (whichever is higher) waiver on your profits.

Chargeable Gain = Disposal Price - Purchased Price (based on SPA) - Exemption waiver
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Hmm, expected selling price around close to RM 800k or ono, just less than RM 200k appreciation before profit & cost, if I am selling, I could be not asking for the one time RPGT waiver, unless higher profit.

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