thanks for ur suggestion..i personally a salesman which will travel 2000km per month..is that H.City FC not as good as vios?

vios has the best FC, go for vios for peace of mind. Afterall, the engine has been used and tested for many years coming from the previous generation vios. Wont go wrong with such stable engine, all vios old or new gen uses the same engine.

thanks, i will take ur advice.

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Added on July 30, 2012, 12:50 pmagreed, trd is totaly waste of money.

This post has been edited by mike5627: Jul 30 2012, 12:50 PM

ai yo yo not understand you lar .. first complain about our local car maker service too short every 5k or 10k then compare with a v10 4.2cc vehicle say this car only need service 20-25k .. ai ya VW 15k service can use normal oil ?i'm very sure have to use fully syhnthethic lar ... honda service 10k also can use fully synthethic lar.. SC will explain to u .. u know how much liter of engine needed for a V10 ?? every service cost 1500 at least lar.. engine oil only is 1k already want to compare to 1.5 or 2.5 cc car how to compare ???

why u compare japanese car with conti car?? totally difference lar..

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Added on July 30, 2012, 8:22 pm2000km permonths buy hybrid better save at least 60% mean travel 2000km pay 1400km the rest 600km is free lar..

mine 1 full tank rm60 get 600-650km (100% city drive) highway can get at least 700-800km .

This post has been edited by keanutan: Jul 30 2012, 08:22 PM

I booked my Forte already. The sales can give 2-3k discount. I think this is worth to get. I cannot get the same spec from Vios and City.

City price increased from 86k to 90k. Not worth. Vios price very competitive. But you will know the car is totally empty feature compare with Forte.

I agreed Forte has less resale value and maybe spare part more expensive. The car just 2 yrs ++ in Malaysia. No one send for major spare part replacement. Not fair to say the spare part is expensive. Resale value is not high doesnt mean low quality. It could be demand low. We have to give time to Korean's Car. The reason City/Vios resale value high doesnt mean has good quality than Kia or Hyundai. Just the matter of time.

I trust Korean brand. You can see how sucessful they do well in Samsung LCD / LED TV.

In US and europe, you can find many Elantra and Forte. But you will not find City or Vios over there. This is good enough to judge which car you should buy.

If you just want to buy car for resale particularly in Malaysia only, then you should get Vios and City. But I would say this is follow trend only. Doesnt mean getting good, worth car if you think on resale value always. Anytime Korean Car can overtake Japanese car like Samsung beat Panasonic or Sony.

ai ya u trust korean brand bcos of samsung ?? bro u know how many samsung lcd got problem ?

us / europe can't find city and vios bcos both model are design for asia country only ..

samsung beat panasonic / sony bcos it is cheap price .. and seller got higher margin ..

bro if u take aside the new korea car design now ..and start to look at inside ...
hyundai = accent (cannot find now)
kia = spectra(bad bad car)
toyota =vios (empty car)
honda = city (high cost)

Hi Keanutan, you just bring up all the bad points from one side only. I am not going to argue with you and criticise how bad the vios and city. Indeed, Toyota and Honda are top car manufacturer in the world.

My points in previous post is to explain how Korean do well in their product and gain the customers sales. Not trying to bias. I just share my thoughts.

when a company earns a lot of money. It is not related to the cheapest price they can offer. But the quality of the production and whether worth to buy or not.

If you think cheap price can work, Malaysia's PENSONIC becomes world number 1. As well as Proton.

ai ya dont mad lar .. just not good to compare car with electronic .. me working in eletrical sales (8 years) if u ask me about quality on mass production japan product is the best ..
lcd tv no matter what brand the panel is from either sharp or sony panel bcos this is the two company that come out with the patents..

u need to know they have the key technology there in LCD.

only a few manufacturers able to make LCD, samsung is one of them, even iphone is taking lcd from samsung.

good choice , forte is a good car, good sound proof, as a passenger, i feel that car is a good buy .

no doubt, forte is a good car. but i think korean car still need some time in Malaysia.

for me korean car company has done a lot better compare p1 n p2.. their design n tech can be par as other big car company now.. while T & H brand just depend on their history which is their main point they have proven (good quality car n good after sales service)..
as for prius c interior quality maybe lower compare to forte, so plasticity.. forte much better for interior n exterior, only bcoz prius c is toyota so it can sell better.. IMO la..

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Added on July 31, 2012, 10:46 pmso far no problem bro.. used almost 4 years, no issue at all.. mileage oredy hit 100k km.. all service done at toyota SC

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Added on July 31, 2012, 10:48 pmmost people oredy know, vios is the best FC for its class.. but somehow on chart it didnt show up, not sure why..
if u travel long distance honda city then, if short distance vios of course..

This post has been edited by amad108: Jul 31 2012, 10:48 PM

well then i should go for city..5 years warranty with unlimited mileage sumore...vios just 3 year

yup, vios still 3 years warranty.. but city maintenance fees a bit higher compare vios, n their CVT gbx u need to really take a good care of it, use better oil from normal (if honda offer for it) cant use 3rd party gbx oil, could void warranty..

but maybe u can add at ur own (eg X-1R auto gbx oil, but that not for CVT, just example only)
auto gbx oil easy to add by ur self compare manual..

This post has been edited by amad108: Jul 31 2012, 11:00 PM

urs is hybrid car?

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Added on July 31, 2012, 11:49 pmO.o i seee...but i thought new city gear boxx change already?

This post has been edited by mike5627: Jul 31 2012, 11:49 PM

Prius C sell better is because of it Hybrid Technology & Tax Exempted. If no Tax Exempted, who else will buy if it cost RM170k-190k. Of cause Toyota brand name also help.

The new City does not use a CVT gearbox anymore, it use a regular 5 speed AT (I think Vios still use 4 speed AT).

There's 2 overdrive gear in the City, technically its like a 4 speed AT, but during highway cruising it uses the fifth gear which might explain the good FC during highway cruising.

Correct me if I'm wrong, just sharing some info

hermm.. so the paddle shift still there but only 5 speed auto?
if that the case maybe CVT problem no more.. last time my friend's city year 2011 almost gone rm15k (not sure, forget the amount oredy) just to replace the gbx..

vios til now 4 speed auto, same with camry 2.0.. most trustful gbx haha.. when they gonna use CVT like prius not sure..

No way Vios & Camry will use same CVT as Prius & Prius C, cause Prius e-CVT electric motor build in to it. Unless is Hybrid Vios & Hybrid Camry.

Camry 2.5V is using 6 speed AT gearbox, not sure it will use in other model.

i just though when vios n camry use CVT (its not supposed same CVT as prius n prius c, just CVT for normal engine)
dont think so that 6 speed auto gbx easily being use by other model too , even its 2.0 camry still use 4 speeder.. huhu..

hybrid vios combine with CVT which will make the price a lot lower, it could make riot bro

Yeah, I think they use back conventional gearbox since the CVT got many problem in Malaysia.. maybe the weather is hotter here or something.. haha. And seems like a lot of people still prefer the regular gearbox and not those CVT scooter thing.

Paddle shift for syok2 only, but if use to up-shift early can save a bit more fuel I suppose.

Your friend year 2011 City sure got warranty right? Rarely a gearbox will fail that soon.