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 vios or city? both 2012 facelifed..which to buy?, budjet around 86k

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amad108
post Jul 29 2012, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(keanutan @ Jul 29 2012, 09:10 PM)
me a toyota diehard fans but for your case between vios and city .. choose city cos more VALUE FOR MONEY vios in the  is worse then saga flx .. those who buy vios is bcos the badge .. u wont get the quality of toyota by driving vios .. toyota quality = altis and above
with city u at least will feel ur money u pay for the car is on the car itself not the badge ..
certainly not korean car men .. korea car better choose local ..at least u wont cry when u want to sale ur car ..

i'm not driving vios but i own 2 toyota currently .. sorry toyota but your vios is suck
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i am vios s user here, seriously u said that vios interior worse then saga flx ?
dont think so, saga flx interior can say same level as viva, myvi and at most fiesta.. vios j maybe coz its lack too much finishing when compare to vios s/trd version..

wht i can say for vios
- good FC (full tank ron95 rm80, shah alam - kuala terengganu still have left 3 bars out of 8 bars)
- average maintenance
- good city car

for honda city
- highway driving better compare vios
- a bit high maintenance
- 16' tyre kinda expensive nowadays compare 15' using by vios trd
amad108
post Jul 29 2012, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(keanutan @ Jul 29 2012, 11:05 PM)
no offences lar bro.. me a toyota owner also but not vios my point is to both company product line up toyota cheapest model is vios and proton is saga flx ..

the truth is event comparing vios trd and city city still win on the value .. with the shifttronic already in win win situation not to add other .. honestly vios trd aside from the bodykit what else ?

but then for me if i want to buy city or vios also i will not choose i rather get altis ..
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dont forget their trd suspension is lower compare even with vios s, not sure how lower but maybe around 40mm=4cm, n its stiffer too..
my friend honda city's gbx (2011 model) after 3 months got problem oredy.. after he fight with honda SC for a few months then finally he get new gbx.. gbx problem is not small tiny problem bro.. those shiftronic (whteve it is called) is not durable enough.. compare vios manual no problem until now, i never heard one too..
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post Jul 29 2012, 11:32 PM

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ur sis didn't use that shift-tronic frequently.. if its owner alwz use, that shift-tronic will have problem later.. so need to use better gbx oil to prevent gbx defect..

adjustable rm12k hks for city or vios bro?
use TT adjustable hi/lo n soft/hard is good enough for rm2.3k new set, 2 years warranty with 3 times free setting.. summore its local company that know our road condition..
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post Jul 29 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jul 29 2012, 11:46 PM)
lol... let me guess. SC people said "baru punya gearbox tak akan ada problem punya"... tongue.gif
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haha.. not sure wht SC people told my friend, but he's having a hard time to get it replace..
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post Jul 30 2012, 12:25 AM

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preve cfe is soft turbo combine with cvt actually u cant fully feel the true power of turbo it self..
but if its manual 6 speed with a bit larger turbo n summore install into neo, that could be cars that can fight fairly with FD2..
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post Jul 30 2012, 06:06 AM

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1st trd version icon_rolleyes.gif
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ok enough with this sweat.gif , now depend on TS to decide.. we all here give him seriously a lot of information flex.gif

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post Jul 31 2012, 10:43 PM

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for me korean car company has done a lot better compare p1 n p2.. their design n tech can be par as other big car company now.. while T & H brand just depend on their history which is their main point they have proven (good quality car n good after sales service)..
as for prius c interior quality maybe lower compare to forte, so plasticity.. forte much better for interior n exterior, only bcoz prius c is toyota so it can sell better.. IMO la..


Added on July 31, 2012, 10:46 pm
QUOTE(kuman @ Jul 30 2012, 08:47 AM)
what about Vios auto gearbox?.. i think its not fair to compare auto gear box with manual gearbox.. don't u think biggrin.gif

i'm always wanted to know how is Vios Gearbox compared to City's
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so far no problem bro.. used almost 4 years, no issue at all.. mileage oredy hit 100k km.. all service done at toyota SC


Added on July 31, 2012, 10:48 pm
QUOTE(mike5627 @ Jul 30 2012, 12:09 PM)
thanks for ur suggestion..i personally a salesman which will travel 2000km per month..is that H.City FC not as good as vios?
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most people oredy know, vios is the best FC for its class.. but somehow on chart it didnt show up, not sure why..
if u travel long distance honda city then, if short distance vios of course..

This post has been edited by amad108: Jul 31 2012, 10:48 PM
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post Jul 31 2012, 10:58 PM

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yup, vios still 3 years warranty.. but city maintenance fees a bit higher compare vios, n their CVT gbx u need to really take a good care of it, use better oil from normal (if honda offer for it) cant use 3rd party gbx oil, could void warranty..

but maybe u can add at ur own (eg X-1R auto gbx oil, but that not for CVT, just example only)
auto gbx oil easy to add by ur self compare manual..

This post has been edited by amad108: Jul 31 2012, 11:00 PM
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post Aug 1 2012, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(winterwish @ Aug 1 2012, 12:26 AM)
The new City does not use a CVT gearbox anymore, it use a regular 5 speed AT (I think Vios still use 4 speed AT).

There's 2 overdrive gear in the City, technically its like a 4 speed AT, but during highway cruising it uses the fifth gear which might explain the good FC during highway cruising.

Correct me if I'm wrong, just sharing some info smile.gif
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hermm.. so the paddle shift still there but only 5 speed auto?
if that the case maybe CVT problem no more.. last time my friend's city year 2011 almost gone rm15k (not sure, forget the amount oredy) just to replace the gbx..

vios til now 4 speed auto, same with camry 2.0.. most trustful gbx haha.. when they gonna use CVT like prius not sure..
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post Aug 1 2012, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(conqu3ror @ Aug 1 2012, 02:44 AM)
No way Vios & Camry will use same CVT as Prius & Prius C, cause Prius e-CVT electric motor build in to it. Unless is Hybrid Vios & Hybrid Camry.

Camry 2.5V is using 6 speed AT gearbox, not sure it will use in other model.
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i just though when vios n camry use CVT (its not supposed same CVT as prius n prius c, just CVT for normal engine)
dont think so that 6 speed auto gbx easily being use by other model too sweat.gif , even its 2.0 camry still use 4 speeder.. huhu..

hybrid vios combine with CVT which will make the price a lot lower, it could make riot bro tongue.gif
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post Aug 1 2012, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Aug 1 2012, 06:57 AM)
dude, NHC not using CVT GB ler.. so the earlier story u told us is true or not? ur fren 2011 city that having GB problem? im driving a 2010 city and 90% of time am using paddle shift.. i do follow city forum/thread and none i found having problem with the GB..  hmm.gif


Added on August 1, 2012, 7:02 am

if most of time u'll be driving in town, vios is good for u; fc and suspension is good for town driving.. if interstate/long distance drive then city for u..
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yup, totally true.. before this he use putra, so kinda a bit spirit driver (alwz change gear lol), when he change to city which got paddle shift he very happy with that, but after certain time his gbx produce some noisy sound, so he claim that problem with honda SC.. i can introduce u to him, but as i also rarely seen him (my old friend since terato.com if u know, that website which already close now)


Added on August 1, 2012, 12:49 pm
QUOTE(winterwish @ Aug 1 2012, 06:44 AM)
Yeah, I think they use back conventional gearbox since the CVT got many problem in Malaysia.. maybe the weather is hotter here or something.. haha. And seems like a lot of people still prefer the regular gearbox and not those CVT scooter thing.  tongue.gif

Paddle shift for syok2 only, but if use to up-shift early can save a bit more fuel I suppose.  biggrin.gif

Your friend year 2011 City sure got warranty right? Rarely a gearbox will fail that soon.
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yup.. but his previous car was putra gsr, so u know la.. he even bring his honda city car to trackday lol..
i think conventional has higher durability, just add 1 gear more so good enough oredy.. summore its paddle shift more response compare CVT gbx..


Added on August 1, 2012, 12:52 pm
QUOTE(bryan5073 @ Jul 29 2012, 12:41 AM)
VIOS coz:
1. Vios is cheaper
2. All Toyota has better resale value
3. Toyota spare-parts cheaper whereas for Honda, even if one part rosak, you'd need to change the whole thing so it will costs more (from what I heard la)

BUT of coz the City looks much nicer la, and heard that City's engine not as noisy as the Vios's

SO it really depends on the buyer's preference!  nod.gif
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i need to agree with engine noise for vios, its true.. rev more then 4k rpm sure can hear engine roar (but not nice engine roar la..huhu)

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post Aug 2 2012, 04:07 PM

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ok2.. calm down..
i am vios s user here, 2008 model.. just wanna share, i drove from shah alam to kuala terengganu from full bar when arrived left 3 bars more from 8 bars, using ron95.. so u do the math.. normall driving style..
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post Aug 3 2012, 05:21 AM

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this becoming war oredy.. maybe moderator can shut it down if it going worst..
i deliberately ignore about the fuel gauge bar coz don want to prolong the issue.. like i say, just wanna share it, about the calculation i think most people here is clever, dont agree with me its fine..
after all this discussion, it could be create more hatred then sharing info.. even TS long gone n maybe have buy his car..

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