"Improvement" is a very broad word. A new design itself, (without new technologies and spec) is also an improvement. Even a facelift, is an improvement. I would have to agree with you if this model is just a facelift of the current Forte, and not an entirely new one from ground up with at least 30 enhancements or new specs.

A case in point, when Naza launched the recent facelifted Next Gen Sorento, with 33 enhancements, they did not increase the price. So much for being greedy?

I do not know, if the tax/duty structure had a hand in the % of the price increase. If could be, since it is no longer batched as Naza. Just my 2cents.

wtf?
putting words into my mouth?

eye sore?
wtf for?

as eye-catching as their design are, or as well arm as their spec sheets are... their legs are still weak and that is a big turn off... in my books...
so wtf with the reliable bla bla bla bla bla harsh bla bla bla bla talk...

i want something that can drive and be driven well....
and your korean comes up real short in my book...

Any fire sale on the out going forte? Please PM me if there is any.

Hi weakmeal69,

Glad to meet some1 from engineering field. Is your thesis done on local shipping companies fleet or worldwide? If it is local, I am surprised to know that they already started using Hyundai diesel engine & genset? I am more used to CAT anyway. Thanks for the info.

In terms of automotive lines, the Koreans do posses some diesel technology that are better than its Japanese counterpart nowadays. Problem with Japan, they are not encouraged to go further into diesel, therefore their tech is dated compared to conti diesel engine and even Korean.

Your reply only fill in the blanks with foul language initial and there is entirely nothing. Today, you can find Forte in hot Arab desert where their regulation is breakdown must never happen. However, there is no Civic, no Teana, no Sylphy in hot Arab desert nowadays. However, you can still find old Accord in Arab large city but not selling well. They used to have N-brand but now fading and took over by Korean makes. Toyota, it will be there. Mazda, it is making its way there too.

Fact is, cars that are reliable, durable and practical only could make it into Arabs market. You could not even pinpoint technically what leg is weak? Do you mean the tie rod, lower arms, suspension, frame?

All I can say about my old Forte 1.6EX 4AT is that I could keep driving this car for over 10 years without problem as long as I keep it service. Korean makes, its engines & gearbox carried Japanese + American DNA whereas the design is german DNA.

If Kia willing to go further to provide conti handling, they'll have to fork out extra cost to give higher end suspension (upper part soft but lower part very stiff) that gives comfort and handling. If they were to do so, they'll end up having to sell more expensive than Japanese makes. In Australia, Mazda 6 costs more expensive than other Japanese D-segments despite same tax rate for all. Reason being, more ingredients being included.

Just look at his signature quote.

No need explain Korea car to him.



This post has been edited by Nyiwon: May 30 2013, 11:06 PM

nope..im studying in russia btw.n now im doing thesis based on Greece shipping company. as for malaysian i think they r still relying on those company with reputable rating like man b&w. they still not dare to try something new.. just like msian with their honda n toyota giving a chance for them to monopolize the market.

CAT? lol. it's kinda funny bcause my prof. said that russian engineer really dont prefer it as the say it is a nightmare to maintain n service CAT's product. that what i was told n not to flame cat btw..

yes that's true

Yes I'm agree with u, K3 Specs are better than Civic even by design. the only cool about Civic is the two tier meter. My mother always want me to buy Civic, because she said people will look high if drive the H brand. but my heart are with K3. So headache about this. hopefully my mother's will change her mind after see the actual K3 during the launching this July

This post has been edited by AMLAN: May 31 2013, 08:48 AM

when petrol heads means legs.... it means the entire works la... adui....
if i break it down and explain to you, i dont think you will survive past the first line...

huah, what tie rod la, what lower arms la, what suspension la...


handling is not only suspension la my dear.....
TOC is that way... --------------------------> please enroll there first...

Still got ppl kena con by these korean manufacturers?! Unbelievable. Koreans got a long way to fo to catch up with the Japanese.

hm...i tot forte share same platform with elentra
btw extra 15mm whell base contribute 90kg to the kerb weight
is it what you meant?

Aiyah...Japs was also like that last time. Everybody starts from bottom. Some people feel that Korean cars should be given some chances, so they buy lah. Don't you understand the concept of variety?

If you're a stern believer in Japs, or hate Koreans so much, why not stay away from such threads? Save everyone the trouble.

actually i do agree with u. KIA deserved a chance. When i was in europe, i saw many korean made car (KIA & Hyundai) but they do have more selections than we do here. A lot of model i never see here before.

Only greedy for forte..

nevermind, quote all those people who complaint, reply them few more years later. we dont know future, but hey, we can forecast

cannot deny that korean are still shitty in some stubborn people mind even though they improved. also, i wanted to remind that handling is not everything. lol.

You just make yourself look like a fool. When you can't even pinpoint and just claim leg works, you are sounding more like those ahbeng workshop mechanics.

People who knows about cars will know what is lower arm, tie rods, anti roll bars, cv joints, upper arms, multi links, etc.

If you have an issue with the supposed negativeness of KIA, then don't buy them. It's that simple. But guess what, there are other ppl out there who give a toss. Just quit moaning about it. It's tired, and it's boring.