They perceived the K3 1.6 a dangerous threat to Inspira 2.0L RM93k. If they let K3 1.6 priced at RM94k-RM96k, do you think people will want to buy Inspira? Though based on Lancer, both the Inspira & Lancer are beginning to feel dated. Today, people are coming up with dual VVT, 6AT conventional gearbox that is more responsive and thanks to lockup convertor & dual clutch, shifting gears no longer jerky. FC wise, Inspira 2.0L at 8.8km/L to 9km/L is not better than Forte 2.0 in city & highway.

Forte 1.6L with 6AT 0-100km/h in 11.5s
Forte 2.0L with 6AT 0-100km/h in 9.8s
Inspira 1.8 with CVT 0-100km/h in 11.5s
Inspira 2.0 with CVT 0-100km/h in 10.5s

Forte handling with VSC allowing it to turn at higher speed. Only weakness in its torsion beam is when going over uneven roads, if left side uneven and shaky, it'll affect the right. Multi-link only left side while the right will not be affected.

Cerato with more aerodynamic design and more conti-feel is posing higher threat than the old Forte introduced here before Inspira exist. Elantra 1.6 is proven a threat to Inspira, they will not want Cerato K3 to get more slice out of Inspira sales pie chart. Both Elantra MD and Cerato K3 have dual CVVT and they get 1km/L better than Forte.

Mitsu Mirage is powerd by low performance weaker than Myvi engine. That is how it passed the protection pricing. The same goes to Almera, P1 finds it an inferior goods and don't think it could affect Preve sales. Quality B-segment too are forced to set pricing no cheaper than Inspira lowest spec. That explains why Sonic and Rio 1.6 if introduced here will be forced to price at RM90k.

IMHO buy portable GPS unit. Can use for other cars, cheaper & easier to update. Buy KIA ....Honda cheat people. So pricey but Korean built quality better .....not to mention the spec. The only sad thing is that in this Bolehland, people still go for T & H for resale value which still baffles me.

In the end you should enjoy your own ride, not look at others who have K3 and envy them later on
If you still want Honda Civic go without the GPS also, not worth the extra 5k right?

You are not envy of Korean makes. More like having eyesore over Korean makes success.

If you don't know, Toyota look at Hyundai-Kia more of a threat than Honda because Hyundai-Kia are proven reliable and durable on hot harsh weather and road condition. Today you can find Toyota and also Hyundai-Kia on Arabs, African, West Asia soil because only these cars could sustain the harsh condition with minimal maintenance. There are always the less gadget LX and EX grade models available that could serve you well over 10 years. However, locals here mostly wanted as much gadgets as possible therefore they bring in only the high and ultra high specs in.

Toyota nowadays don't even bother Nissan and Honda as they are considered inferior. Mazda is another new threat that have superior tech. Wonder what you mean on weak legs? Tie rod and lower arm of suspension?

Since new K3 is priced higher, Forte RV is safe and will become stronger than ever. In US, EU, AU, the price range is set for A, B, C, D segments. New models will sell under that range, won't increase unless there's inflation. Over here, new FaceLift auto increase RM2k. New model add RM5k to RM10k more. If priced too close to P1 under protection policy, penalty increase another RM10k. Ofcourse, when price being forced to increase, car company get to share some too.

Your reply only fill in the blanks with foul language initial and there is entirely nothing. Today, you can find Forte in hot Arab desert where their regulation is breakdown must never happen. However, there is no Civic, no Teana, no Sylphy in hot Arab desert nowadays. However, you can still find old Accord in Arab large city but not selling well. They used to have N-brand but now fading and took over by Korean makes. Toyota, it will be there. Mazda, it is making its way there too.

Fact is, cars that are reliable, durable and practical only could make it into Arabs market. You could not even pinpoint technically what leg is weak? Do you mean the tie rod, lower arms, suspension, frame?

All I can say about my old Forte 1.6EX 4AT is that I could keep driving this car for over 10 years without problem as long as I keep it service. Korean makes, its engines & gearbox carried Japanese + American DNA whereas the design is german DNA.

If Kia willing to go further to provide conti handling, they'll have to fork out extra cost to give higher end suspension (upper part soft but lower part very stiff) that gives comfort and handling. If they were to do so, they'll end up having to sell more expensive than Japanese makes. In Australia, Mazda 6 costs more expensive than other Japanese D-segments despite same tax rate for all. Reason being, more ingredients being included.

You just make yourself look like a fool. When you can't even pinpoint and just claim leg works, you are sounding more like those ahbeng workshop mechanics.

People who knows about cars will know what is lower arm, tie rods, anti roll bars, cv joints, upper arms, multi links, etc.

I love it when a nutbag comes in arguing that certain car makes are the best.

Fyi, all carmakers FC reading taken based on 80's traffic for city and highway. Therefore, all carmakers FC claim are never exceed fuel reading that could only be reached at best. City driving FC based on US/EU traffic in 80's and highway FC reading is taken from constant 90km/h cruising without getting into idle and stop.

US city and highway traffic today are much heavier where they could even get into bumper to bumper crawl traveling between city and suburbs. Because of this, none of the carmakers of any brand can be achieved in reality today and by right, all of them should change the city traffic and highway traffic to heavier, not just Hyundai-Kia alone.

Hyundai-Kia models involved in the lawsuit only have difference of just 1-2MPG that is 0.4km/L to 0.85km/L. Don't try to say the 6MPG (2.55km/L) as that difference is only for Kia Soul highway FC revision that is not involved in the lawsuit at all.  If Hyundai-Kia get punished, how come other brands can escape? Reason being, they'll put up fight and make sure owners lose rather than paying the difference.

You want to talk about N-brand, they published official ad on paper stating City FC:
Sylphy 16km/L
Latio/Lavina 1.6L 14km/L
Latio/Lavina 1.8L at 13km/L

These are FC achievable from cruising at 90km/h on highway. Whereas in reality, in light city driving:
Sylphy 9.4km/L
Latio 1.6 at 12.5km/L
Latio 1.8 at 11km/L
Lavina 1.8 at 9.6km/L
Lavina 1.6 no VVT at 9km/L

You are driving Sylphy on Federal Highway bumper to bumper crawl everyday, do you think you could get 16km/L? Belahlah! If under that condition, expect 8.9km/L minus more to just 8km/L.

So you are saying you only rely on google sos for information? Since you said the google sos is more reliable than direct information from Technical in respective companies, how come you never posted anything related to indepth car talk all these while? Only pester around and replied without any technical information, facts and close to actual reading/measurement/result? Even TROLL could post more information than that. Rather than you judge others, what do you think others judge on your empty comment instead? So what is interior width of SYlphy, Altis, Civic, Forte? Find me the answer now, can you?

You're quite the idiot. You were saying that Toyota etc do not give out discounts, thus im showing you they do. Now you gave me a unrelated reasoning. Dude, no one acknowledges you crapped up stories here. Move on, or you can keep pretending you are right 
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New in LYN but veteran in AW. Thanks to the N-brand marketing bunch for introducing me here. Yes, those who like cars or have the budget and options to buy cars, they are encouraged to test everything and they are allowed to share freely on the true information. I do encourage everyone to learn as much knowledge as possible in how to test, evaluate and pick on cars wisely.

Also, as car enthusiast, must make sure the good cars survive. FYI, good cars under crappy management could go bankrupt due to no awareness and forgo after sales service and parts. If you bring along 3 full sized adults with you, without ruler, you can find out how wide inside the rear passenger row in few different C-segment that you tried on. Example, Sylphy is confirmed narrowest, worse than B-segment Latio. Altis has more interior width whereas Lancer, Forte and Elantra are even wider inside. Want to look at safety, open the door and check the thickness of pillars and frames, Sylphy is thinnest straight flat on the side whereas other proper C-segments, they are curvy and angled yet thicker. These are vital to passenger protection.

kcng,

Never heard of CM. Whatever he does has nothing to do with me. You don't have to make others thing that he has anything to do with me here. Whatever I post based on actual facts, measurement, reading, testing, etc. Sylphy width 1695mm is fact. Its interior width 1390mm door panel to door panel is also facts. Adult sitting behind, thigh support poor just covering partial part of the thigh leaving almost the whole leg dangling is also fact with the seats so low yet sitting position so upright like bench. Headroom roof to head is around 35mm is also fact.

So how come your comment so bias is also fact. Reason being, you are either:
1)  N-brand marketing staff that felt threaten by Korean made that come up with quality and reliability affecting your sales.
2) Owner that bought Sylphy, worry that more and more N-brand owners telling the truth would cause your RV drop further.

More eyesore over Korean makes means they are really good that sent you panic. That is why you bunch are using all sorts of mean to bring down Korean makes including spreading lies on RV and spare part which are not longer effective as they are proven good in Korean makes.