Bro pls refer to the post by Jaya_pc87. U will see the start up cost.

Then the overiding percentage x the start up cost for a partner. Once u rank up u take your overiding and minus your below partners overiding and multiply the start up cost for future partners who join.

This how u earn your commission. So if any downline does any sales of product, u also multiply with your overiding.

Btw, u're the one who is interested to know more. Pls come find us. If not I wish u all the best in your future endeavours.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 2:39 pmYes it is.

This post has been edited by empro: Dec 28 2012, 02:39 PM

Another website but last update in 2011.

http://mc-ocean2u.blogspot.com/

Also notice Mc Ocean holding is hiring in JobStreet.

This company seems to be quite sustainable. With extension to Indonesia and Vietnam, there are plenty of untouch 'potentials'.

Well yes we are expanding our network... But the people working with McOcean determines its sustainability.

I cannot guarantee that certain members may play dirty and give us a bad rep. But as I know, our group consists of industry professionals and practice proper business ethics.

Same case if I take proton engineers and put them in BMW, would u buy their cars? So in actual fact u r investing into the people that make the company.

Chronicle...

Haiz... I'm just so tired to layan u la. As long this business gives me money to feed my family and live a good life, your opinions are of no value.

But since I'm earning a good income from this business, would u like to work for me? I'll give u a basic of 4k per month for you to do sales for me plus commissions if you hit your targets. I can see your love for SALES.

I can offer u a job or I can also offer you a business. Yes we do sell these products to customers. But there's nothing wrong for the consumers themselves to do the business.

These are everyday products we are dealing with. Why should I purchase outside when I have my own products I believe in? This is how we can maintain recurring income in this business. If u love your business, u love your products.

He questions ethics, but since you don't and neither does China and I can't be bothered - then we have nothing much more to debate on. Anybody can rip anybody off in the world today and its all legal. Dun like u kill u lo settle ma - our polis also can do that. Its just whether you consider the greater community at hand and whether you want to memajukan negara or continue buying iphone5 in the next millenium. Different people, different priorities.

Pls post up your resume for my review.

And if I hire you. I shall update this forum on your performance as my sales agent. Let's see if your talk cock skill can do something or not.

Your quota and monthly sales target will be RM40k (as per sales industry standard) anything above shall be a tiered percentage return

25% above target = 10k x 10%
50% above target = 20k x 15%
75% above target = 30k x 20%
Etc.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 5:00 pmAnd yeah being the cock talker u are. Don't say the product sucks. Wtf u care I'm your boss paying your salary, so when I ask u to sell u better do it!

This post has been edited by empro: Dec 28 2012, 05:00 PM

Lmao! U think Amway and cosway got no recruiting?

you want people to work for you.. you still dont' want to say anything about your products, you say you believe in your products when a couple of posts back you say products not important, more important is getting recruits..

so which is it? recruits or products?

you want to hire sales people you have to entice people by saying what you sell mah.. 5 pages into this you still don't want to disclose any products, no pictures no retail price no nothing...

btw it is not legal to cheat people... there is a reason why pyramid schemes are illegal... mc ocean seems to be using amway's legal business methods to disguise the pyramid scheme... even going so far as to have 2 separate companies, so that if anything happens, Mc Ocean company is safe from any litigation. I would venture so much as to say that the other company probably has no assets to recover from a law suit.

lol..actually their product is so so only..nothing special..most of them talk more about their success than the product..this is the fact...

the main point is mc ocean doesn't give a shit about their products and is more interested in selling membership

amway and cosway are focused on their products..

simple way to check go to the websites, mcocean website don't want to tell you anything about their products, say login is required meaning you have to purchase your membership first then you can see the products

amway website show you so many things about their products, got pictures and information etc etc

Are u sure so so? Yuen u also another one... U never try or consume then can judge?

Alpha PSP is one of our products.
We also have water ionizers.
And deep sea water which is a craze in japan.

McOcean is the manufacturer. Our products are being sold online through us distributors. Check for personal blogs.

Let me ask you what is your intention? To know the business or to consume the products? Pls be specific cause it seems u are keen to do the business rather than buying products.

If u want to buy, come over to our office to have a look.

And I don't understand why u keep saying I emphasize on recruiting? Did I also not mention sales as well? Wtf man... When u do this bizz up to u la u want to sell or recruit.

Ahh... this one interests me - water ionizers - care to describe to me how it works and the benefits? I've heard quite a bit but never tried.

ionizer like the air cond kua... but air cond is for what huh.. deodorize? kill bacteria?

Hey Dezs...

Gosh I didn't know u took that resume thing personally man... Was not even directed at you. Hope u don't lead your life that way dude!

The thing is. Yes we do have a proper business plan shown in a proper presentation. If u wanna see it then make an appointment. U go ask Apple how to be their distributor, u think they going to just post it up anywhere is it?

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Added on December 28, 2012, 5:32 pmYes Dezs just to keep it simple. It alters the ph of the water for different uses.

Like ph 5.5 for face, cause that our skins natural ph.

And like starbucks, they use alkaline water for their coffee that's why it taste different even u use the same beans at home.

This post has been edited by empro: Dec 28 2012, 05:32 PM

apple doesnt show their marketing skill to us.. nope. but they do post their hardware technical specification on all over the world ya..
this is how they sell their product. and how do you guys sell yours? behind doors? or.. discuss 'personally'?

Entirely up to u how u wanna sell. There are some distributors selling in lowyat also. Bro use the power of the internet.

Sell to your family members? Neighbours?

And a important thing I would like to highlight. U rank up base on your sales not purely through recruitment.

confusing statements.
or 'double standards'... which one..

Ok.... Put it this way. From GP to rank up to DP. U need total sales of 10k. U can sell by yourself. But what if u have 5 friends who are keen to do the business also?

They join and each one purchases almost 2k to start their business. Of course u need your own sets of products to do sales and show customers. So 5x2=10k. So u rank up.

Now how your partners decide to build their business is up to them. SELL PRODUCTS and RECRUIT. If you have a team to help you wouldn't that be easier?

And if you decide to sell by yourself, if u hit another 24k in sale u rank up another time lor. The payout is roughly 20% for the sales u do.

But if you have a team to do the sales isn't it much easier for u, plus u have overiding.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 6:11 pmSlightly more technical. If u are a DP your overriding is 24%. If your below partner is a GP his overiding is 15%

So, if he did a total sale of 10k, what u get is
24%-15%=9%
Hence 9%x10k=rm900.

But what if your partner works harder, does more sale than you and become the same rank as you?

What u get is
24%-24%=0 , so u no longer can earn any sales from him, unless u decide to work hard then rank up higher than him. This is fair and should not be seen as a pyramid scheme.

Isn't tht fair? How do you qualify to earn all his hard work. U also have to work. Its not free food.

This post has been edited by empro: Dec 28 2012, 06:11 PM

i heard bout this

the lower level people normally brainswashed to join..

many lost money

many indian and malay

chinese a bit smarter to avoid scams