if you're rich. you'll be fine.. if not. god bless you.

I don't know how u define rich? But if earning 8k a month in a bank fits that description for u... Then god bless u too!

Never limit yourselves and take chances, cause behind every failure, success is waiting.

Guys, bottom line is this is a business after all. Please do not condemn a business if you don't know anything. I believe in respecting one's professional in any field. If this isn't your cup of tea then just move on. I'm an oil & gas engineer and I'm in this business. Like I said before this isn't an ordinary business.

jaya_pc87 got cash to burn, he can try as much as he likes mah. but in order for him to 'earn' his profit... the question is, how many ppl more he wants them to get involved (in other words, how many ppl money he wanna 'burn'?)

i dont care if those ppl got 'cash' de la... but if it's from young ppl, or person without extra cash to spare.. then, dont 'experiment' on them lo.. 'take your own risk'.

This business can be ''earn''...there is no doubt about it...if you manage to find a lot of ppl to ''burn''.

Bro.... One thing is for sure, most industries were the subject of critisizm. Lol! Look at banks, they were the biggest crooks and the cause for everyones financial despair in the subprime crisis.

Did you realize that we are the losers in everyday life? Just by consuming daily necessities like food makes someone else richer. What u think a can of coke costs? 8 cents to be exact. And u never complain about all the people who has reaped profit from u! Thanks for making them rich. But always complaining that in MLM u make the top person richer.

I hope to see that u go into business to sell your goods or services at cost price! Then u r being truly genuine. But what if a company comes and tells u, hey here's a loyalty card, now u're a member and any purchase u make, u get back a rebate. Plus, if u recommend any of your friends to buy our products, u also get bonus points. So, wouldn't your friends be keen to do that as well?

But as u all highlight, no.... Recommending or selling things to friends is so wrong especially when u make money off them. Hello! We are naturally born markerters like it or not. Let's say u buy a iphone5 or galaxy, wouldn't u share with your friends how great the phone is? So if apple gives u a commission for successfully getting your friend to buy the phone, is it wrong? Too bad these companies don't share their profits with u....

So yeah thanks for marketing products for free!

debate never ends. anyway, dont go sapu others ppl money. especially those still studying..

Very true! I totally agree with your points!

If can't afford the loan don't take it. But the bank is desperate to give it!

Coke is for enjoyment, yes. So in the end its totally up to u if you decide to drink starbucks or just kopi o.

What u r stating is that its peoples choice. And when people do something, its their choice. If u cannot do business then why do MLM? If u fail don't blame the company. Same case as in taking loan with the bank.

Don't blame anybody but yourselve! Have a reality check, nobody can force u to do something u don't want.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 12:25 pmAnd yes, do your research on manufacturing costs. With large production volumes, the cost of manufacturing will be low. So if u paid RM10 for a can of coke at a hotel, go figure how much people make. Ask the waiter next time, why your coke so expansive when outside only RM2?

U still have much to learn about macro economics. U have a degree in business?



This post has been edited by empro: Dec 28 2012, 12:25 PM

i dont need a degree to understand who make the profit.. it's the hotel ppl lo.. does COKE manufacturer earns that profit? no wor... and why do they wanna charge that high? who knows ya.. maybe becoz you lazy to go 7-11 and buy, hence you pay the hotel ppl rm10 for that coke that is served right at your doorstep. you paid for that service ya..

IF this company is really selling good stuff.. with reasonable price.. i think. you can SHARE them out here.. good stuff should SHARE de mar.. isnt it? instead of 'selling membership' to other.

And a lesson in marketing. Most people today associate products by celebrities who uses it or advertise it. Marketing and advertisement sells the experience by using a product.

Companies always claim their products are the best, its common sense to do so!

Let's take BMW's tag line.... The ultimate driving machine. Haiya... To me I feel a Ferrari is the best.

So what about the costs u paying? I've seen aston martin sticking their logo on a toyota and charge 10 times the price. Logical?

This is business, u may not like it and think its stupid people who buy these...

Who are u to make a remark like that when u don't have the money to buy it in the first place?

Btw, as u said its peoples choice. So don't condemn.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 12:42 pmLol! That's what I do! I see a great business opportunity. That's why I share! Haha.

Up to u to decide. Fair?

This post has been edited by empro: Dec 28 2012, 12:42 PM

Interesting...This thread was about mc Ocean and ending with some economics lessons.

BTW, we need suckers and lurkers in business. That's why there are rich and poor people. Otherwise, if everything is so fair and equal, there won't be any wealth gaps.

Lol Cyfer!

Finally someone understands. This is just business nature. Great business man sees opportunity first and the right timing.

Unfortunately this is the hard truth... Use or be used.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 1:16 pmBefore venturing into MLM there are always risks involved. Same as any other business u do!

We do not guarantee success. If u can find me a business that can guarantee success, pls do call me, I would love to join u!

However remember the 90% money back guarantee we give. Is risking 10% a lot to try to change your life?

This post has been edited by empro: Dec 28 2012, 01:16 PM

dont divert out la.. show the product/services/technology, with the pricetag.

Lol...never thought this topic can be drag so long...both party also got their own points..but this is good info for those interested to join mc ocean or whatever mlm...

No worries... If u really want to know, let us personally illustrate to u how it works.

Basically if u didn't understand what Jaya87 said then how can I better explain to u here.

Then u can see with your own eyes the product we have.

U're a smart guy, once u see how it works its up to u. I don't need to convince you. But don't simply condem before you truly understand.

just show the brochures or slides... or any documented information about the product la.. must it be 'personally'?

U want me to upload the whole presentation ar?
Together with all the product brochures?

We got like 80 over products man. Haiz... Just come out for drinks and network abit.

U'll understand that yes we recruit potential partners but only a handful. But no more than 5. That's all. So we 'don't desperately recruit also'. As yuen1985 said, his friend didn't come and approach him about the business anymore cause its not necessary.

Regards.

show something, for a start.

Is this the website? www.mcocean.com