hi guys wat u all this bout mc ocean business..can b trusted? need your guys advice

Was being brought to their office today...... I also found things weird... I posted a new tread to ask about this actually...I was searching Steady Destiny instead of McOcean...

They claim that their KPs make a lot of money...20k to 100k... And after all they intro me a KP, and when I look at him... Argh

This post has been edited by jeenhao: Aug 25 2012, 11:47 PM

Never heard of Mc Ocean yet..

So,what's not right in this type of mlm?google'd and found they have office in few other asian countries.Anyone care to share?

http://www.jutawangold.com/pengalaman-hamp...bak-dengan-mlm/


Taiko tai on June 11, 2012 at 3:29 pm said:

Wa ala pigi itu function M&U….Istana Hotel KL sana….mula-mula manyak syiok lamai olang satu malaysia wa pon ada sikit jelit2….suma cakap2 bikin hot itu hotel ballroom….wa tak paham apa pasai mau celita itu biz kena bikin loan 34K untok olang balu….wa butui2 talak paham itu ada solang budak botak pakai tai melah sula cakap2 sampai mata ala melah kasi support team leader so suma latang kena bikin loan guna nama sindili la nama bini la apamacam ??? jangan itu macam la kawan suma datang sana tatak senang punya olang lagi lu mau suloh bikin loan kaa??? wa bukan kondem tapi wa setuju kalau lu olang kasi chance bagi olang balu mula join modal RM2ribu lebey dulu itu saja….jangan ini macam….itu selupa tamak punya olang mau cepat kaya mau pangkat lagi atas tapi kasi sakit kepala olang balu mau join suloh buat loan meh…….
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anti-penipu on June 14, 2012 at 12:38 pm said:

saya pun hampir tertipu dengan janji-janji manis dan perangkap kehidupan mewah yang ditawarkan oleh mereka ini.

Modus operandi mereka:

1. macam2 janji yang diberi, dan gambar2 kereta mewah yang digunakan oleh “upline” akan di tunjuk.

2. “laburlah wang anda!” ini pun taktik yang diguna pakai, secara sah akan memerangkap sesiapa sahaja.

3. Pada mulanya mereka akan tanya “adakan RM200 ribu adalah banyak untuk anda melabur?”… semestinya kita jawab “YA”…

4. Selepas itu “adakan RM20 ribu banyak untuk anda melabur???”… “YA” jugalah jawapan saya…

5. Selepas itu… kita memang tunggu nak masuk perangkap la… “adakah RM2ribu banyak?”… kita pon fikir.. “ok jugak pe!” dan saya pun melabur lah RM2000 yang dikumpul dalam bank.

6. Selepas itu, dipaksa bayar RM150 untuk Money&You, pergi situ, baru lah saya sedar yang saya telah terjerat, kerana modal bukan RM2000! modal sebenar adalah RM34ribu!!! YA! RM34,000!!!

7. Dengan melabur RM34,000 dan menjerat orang lain (kawan-kawan, keluarga dan lain lain), kita bertungkus lumus untuk mendapatkan balik modal kita, dan untung sudah dilimat oleh “upline” kita.

8. Soalan saya : “adakah anda ingin menjerat orang lain seperti mana anda telah dijerat?”

Semua ini adalah taktik2 untuk mengaut keuntungan daripada kita, JANGAN… TOLONG JANGAN terpedaya. Saya telah kehilangan hampir RM36,000 dan juga kehilangan kepercayaan kawan dan keluarga.

Saya telah bertaubat dah ingin meneruskan kerja saya untuk pendapatan. Walaupun makan gaji, namun saya tidak perlu menjerat orang lain dan mendapat cemuhan dan sumpahan…

TOLONG JANGAN TERPEDAYA!
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Hi prempenang,

Minggu lepas kawana saya pun bawa I pergi ke office MC ocean kat Frasers park.
Saya pun go thru like u.First at old town white coffee tapi mereka tak beritau
nama syarikat pun.lepas tu,suruh I datang kat office mereka.
I pun pergi sebab kawan I terdesak I untuk pergi sebab dia dah book appoinment untuk I.
Lepas dengar cerita daripada KP F..... dan modalnya adalah RM2113 shj.
Saya diberi satu form untuk isi dan kata mereka kalau tak mampu boleh bayar rm260(registration fee &M & U FEE).
Yang BAKINYA boleh bayar kemudian.
Pasal Form tu,dia orang suruh I sign so that kalau i nak buat bisness,dia orng tak perlu susah payah utk ambil sign dari I dan
KP mereka busy so easy kalau I sign.I pun taruh sign I.
Keesoka harinya kawan I call and tanya kat I sama ada saya nak buat bisness in i ke tak?
Then saya kata,saya kata kena fikir dulu.
Dia kata modalnya sikit dan dia sanggup bayar untuk I yang balance rm19xx.
Dia suruh I bayar rm260 sahaja.
Lepas tu,I google and find your post.
I sangat keliru sekarng tak tau nak cxakap apa kat kawan I.
Dia berada dalam bisness ini selama 6 bulan dan suruh saya ikut .
Tolong saya.....

After reading the above posts, its a MLM for sure.

This post has been edited by kurty: Oct 15 2012, 09:36 AM

Joined today at 10.45pm and straight away posted in here....u expect us to believe u?
Show some proof that u have been earning the amt that u said first

Yes, show the proof!

I also been invited to their event before.

For those interested to join, my advice is just do more research about this company.

written like some sort of standard replys

no offense, i still believe doing the rightful ways

hello

It"s okey if you do not want believe it.It is a public forum and I can"t post because of security purpose.You say I sign up and immediately post comment.yup true when i reading this before i am not in this company and bot member here too.i post after i join the company it.I just share my opinion and exprience .Is up to you want to take it or not.
Thank you.

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Added on October 25, 2012, 1:28 pmhello

It"s okey if you do not want believe it.It is a public forum and I can"t post because of security purpose.You say I sign up and immediately post comment.yup true when i reading this before i am not in this company and Not member here too.i post after i join the company it.I just share my opinion and exprience .Is up to you want to take it or not.
Thank you

This post has been edited by leesoymoy001: Oct 25 2012, 01:28 PM

ceiii.... lame tactics jor..

Penipu..

Well the thing is for him to earn, he needs waterfishes , lets face it if he's wrong he's not going to be acountable. He'lll just keep quiet and leave the forum.

Guys,

Just to broaden your horizons. MLM is a legal tem used as a marketing strategy. Please do not confuse yourself with "Ponzy Scheme". A lot of "MLM" companies misuses this term but infact practice Pozy Scheme. This is when the company fails and people like you and me will blame MLM. If MLM is indeed ILLEGAL, there would not be any MLM companies at the moment i.e. Amway, Cosway.

MLM is just an alternative business concept that requires relatively small modal to startup. Just like insurance. Oh and even Insurance agencies are using network marketing concept i.e recruiting new agents to enjoy overiding bonuses.

MLM is not a problem but choosing the right MLM company is. So in that perspective please do your research. Do not only echo what you have heard from people who have heard from people.But you yourselve don't know what it is all about.

I have been in this company for 2 months and yes I am seeing my returns. If you work hard you will see results.This is a business and not an investment scheme. There's a difference. Mc-Ocean has got AJL (Akta Jualan Langsung) Licenses, whereby we are regulated by the government, Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri Koperasi and Kepengunaan (KPDNKK). You run your own business and you will see your income. If you don't work, then you will not see your income. I'm brave enough to say that this principle applies to any business nature.

Now then, just because one fails, they will blame the whole world except themselves. That is the basic human nature. they will not improve and they will also not let anyone else improve. Just like our friends here whom have been condemning this company. If it was illegal as well we would not be here by now. Please rationalise your selves and not blindly echo the failuers.

Think again if it was a scam why would SO MANY PEOPLE BE SUCCESSFUL in this business? If they can do it, whay can't I? At least I am trying to change my live rather than to sit in front of my computer and waiting to laugh at people's failure.

I'm again not condemning anybody but to some, this business is their ricebowls and more importantly it's legal (Please check with KPDNKK).

Thanks.

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Added on December 18, 2012, 4:01 pmhi,

Just to broaden your horizons. MLM is a legal tem used as a marketing strategy. Please do not confuse yourself with "Ponzy Scheme". A lot of "MLM" companies misuses this term but infact practice Pozy Scheme. This is when the company fails and people like you and me will blame MLM. If MLM is indeed ILLEGAL, there would not be any MLM companies at the moment i.e. Amway, Cosway.

MLM is just an alternative business concept that requires relatively small modal to startup. Just like insurance. Oh and even Insurance agencies are using network marketing concept i.e recruiting new agents to enjoy overiding bonuses.

MLM is not a problem but choosing the right MLM company is. So in that perspective please do your research. Do not only echo what you have heard from people who have heard from people.But you yourselve don't know what it is all about.

I have been in this company for 2 months and yes I am seeing my returns. If you work hard you will see results.This is a business and not an investment scheme. There's a difference. Mc-Ocean has got AJL (Akta Jualan Langsung) Licenses, whereby we are regulated by the government, Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri Koperasi and Kepengunaan (KPDNKK).

Now then, just because one fails, they will blame the whole world except themselves. that is the basic human nature. they will not improve and they will also not let anyone else improve. Just like our friends here whom have been condemning this company. if it was illegal as well we would not be here by now. Please rationalise your selves and not blindly echo the failuers.

This business can be trusted!

This post has been edited by exlish: Dec 18 2012, 04:01 PM

Really? if you are so supportive of this, tell you what why don't you take your earnings out and pay for my membership to join i will give you 100% of the first 3 months of my earnings for you paying my membership fee..

good deal for you right? in 3 months you earn 2 times the amount...

No risk to you also right? cos sure will make money sure will earn.. so you just pay the initial startup cost for me la..

how about that? are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?

Hi,

In this business, we require businees partners who share our aspirations and also have the hunger to grow with us together. I approach people who wants business oppurtunites and not con them in it. If you think you can do it, you do it. I'm not here to guarantee you your returns. When there is an openeing for workers in our business i'll let u know... coz u surely sound like one.

In business there is always risk. Like i said this is not an investment. If its not your cup of tea then I wish you all the best in your future undertaking.

Regards

okay..

what does your business do? how is your income generated? what are the business assets? how is the corporate structure of the business? how much tax does the business pay?

a more basic question is what will you do with the initial investment i put into the business to be a "business partner"

my previous post was more to leesoymoy001, who makes grand claims about the viability of mc ocean. you on the other hand seem more rational, so please explain more

people get conned because they usually don't ask the right questions to promoters like you.. and we all know that promoters like to tell the good parts and never the bad parts.