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ChroniclesIY
post Dec 18 2012, 04:23 PM

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Really? if you are so supportive of this, tell you what why don't you take your earnings out and pay for my membership to join i will give you 100% of the first 3 months of my earnings for you paying my membership fee..

good deal for you right? in 3 months you earn 2 times the amount...

No risk to you also right? cos sure will make money sure will earn.. so you just pay the initial startup cost for me la..

how about that? are you willing to put your money where your mouth is?
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post Dec 18 2012, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(exlish @ Dec 18 2012, 05:07 PM)
Hi,

In this business, we require businees partners who share our aspirations and also have the hunger to grow with us together. I approach people who wants business oppurtunites and not con them in it. If you think you can do it, you do it. I'm not here to guarantee you your returns. When there is an openeing for workers in our business i'll let u know... coz u surely sound like one.

In business there is always risk. Like i said this is not an investment. If its not your cup of tea then I wish you all the best in your future undertaking.

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okay..

what does your business do? how is your income generated? what are the business assets? how is the corporate structure of the business? how much tax does the business pay?

a more basic question is what will you do with the initial investment i put into the business to be a "business partner"

my previous post was more to leesoymoy001, who makes grand claims about the viability of mc ocean. you on the other hand seem more rational, so please explain more

people get conned because they usually don't ask the right questions to promoters like you.. and we all know that promoters like to tell the good parts and never the bad parts.
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post Dec 18 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(exlish @ Dec 18 2012, 05:39 PM)
Hi,

First of all I would like to thank you for rationalising yourself. Sir we are in a similar situation to this :

"Before you attend a job interview you ask your soon to be eomployers to declare all their assets and wateva u've mentioned above. Because you are not sure that the company might or might not close down tommorow. You do all the talking to your soon to be employers which does not sound right at all."

If you want to know more about the business then we can set an appointment and I can enlighten you further. The point of me writting in this post in the first place was to rationalise people's general concept of MLM and also that MC-Ocean has changed many peoples lives. People who have not thought of luxury life are now enjoying it through this business.

Employees who have worked tirelessly putting in 10-12 hours everday only to be paid 5k-8k is not going to enjoy luxury life and they can never become wealthy working until the age of 55. This is an alternative whereby you rip the rewards of your hardwork. You enjoy and "INCOME" and NOT a "SALARY". You also will be thoguht to think and move like a businessman.

Again this is not an investment. The general definition of an investment is that you don't have control of your returns. Business on the other hand is within your contol. You need a modal to startup a business which you are going to run. Also, we have AJL license meaning you are paying for a set of products. You can't invest and not get something in return in an MLM company. That is illegal.

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Sorry to say this sounds like a load of fluff to me, you are not telling me anything more about your company, and merely mentioning to meet up. you then disguise the short answer by putting lots of "mere commercial fluff".

I feel a bit ill-at-ease when people do not want to reveal basic information about their schemes online but rather get PMs and private meetings.

I would like to ask 2 basic questions, what products do i get, and where does my money go? revealing this information should not breach any confidentiality or business secrets.

the same way i would ask any investment. If gold broker, i would get gold (virtual or real) and my money goes to paying for the gold. Or in terms of shares i would get shares and my money goes to the promotion of that company.

in the same way, what do i get from an initial investment with you guys?

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post Dec 19 2012, 06:01 PM

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So i was right.. you sell membership into the company..

I ask again what products you give.. you say you give retail price so why should i join the company when i can go out to the shop to buy the products?

if you really give products at retail price and if i leave within 6 months i get 90% of my money back then I should join up get the products and leave.. so i only pay 10% of the retail price for the products.

sounds like a good deal, what products do you give? don't say you give like RM30k worth of toilet paper la.. that one i smack you..

more importantly HOW does the company get the money to pay out to members?

It is based on new members coming in? if no new members come in then how?

What attracts new members to join? What service do you provide to attract new members?

What you tell me is basically you sell membership into the company
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:20 PM

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Aiyah.. why you reveal so fast.. i was trying to make that fanboi admit it.. haha.. oh well =)
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post Dec 20 2012, 09:12 PM

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not you.. exlish.. haha =D
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post Dec 28 2012, 05:07 PM

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you want people to work for you.. you still dont' want to say anything about your products, you say you believe in your products when a couple of posts back you say products not important, more important is getting recruits..

so which is it? recruits or products?

you want to hire sales people you have to entice people by saying what you sell mah.. 5 pages into this you still don't want to disclose any products, no pictures no retail price no nothing...

btw it is not legal to cheat people... there is a reason why pyramid schemes are illegal... mc ocean seems to be using amway's legal business methods to disguise the pyramid scheme... even going so far as to have 2 separate companies, so that if anything happens, Mc Ocean company is safe from any litigation. I would venture so much as to say that the other company probably has no assets to recover from a law suit.
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post Dec 28 2012, 05:10 PM

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the main point is mc ocean doesn't give a shit about their products and is more interested in selling membership

amway and cosway are focused on their products..

simple way to check go to the websites, mcocean website don't want to tell you anything about their products, say login is required meaning you have to purchase your membership first then you can see the products

amway website show you so many things about their products, got pictures and information etc etc

 

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