The market is very new in KL.

Pls go to johor or penang and you will see the opposite.

Majority are chinese there.

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Added on December 29, 2012, 10:44 amThis is not a scam. As you see, we have highlighted how things the business works.

Showed you 3 of our 80 plus products. And these products are everyday consumables with recurring sales. Unlike lampe berger, some super mattress, gold investment and volcanic radiation stones.

This post has been edited by empro: Dec 29 2012, 10:44 AM

Thank you for the description.

FYI I am merely a 3rd party who stumbled along this thread in the midst of an ongoing debate - I am pointing out the obvious from a 3rd party perspective.

I would think I live my life more like an @sshole anyway - There are too many people whom I don't need to meet in life to be bothered with - its just a matter of filtering down the ashes to meet people I truly want to meet and deal with that would benefit me a.k.a. worth my time. That's the onus when it comes to proposing matters or in your case defending a concept that you believe in. Nobody here has anything better to do with your business plan here other than to put it under tight scrutiny to see if it is up to what it is claimed to be - a.k.a. "Products that are effective always hold up to scrutiny. " - unless its national treasure - but since any Tom d*** and Harry willing to invest will have this information as well - and that the possibility that any member or ex member has the capacity to disclose the information via various channels - I don't see any benefit of non-disclosure. A wonderful plan will appear as wonderful presented on paper as it is in person - that is a good business plan - what would you expect?

You want people to support you yet you belittle them and refuse to debate the topic - what kind of response would you expect? Until you "show us the money", nobody is gonna listen to you, and your attitude towards the topic is not going to make anyone less forgiving - if the business is that good and if it doesn't really matter whether we buy into it, then theres no need to waste your time here any further - go earn your money since these fools aren't listening. Please be reminded I have not said a single word against your company. I'm tying it directly to you since you're the agent and the solid spokesperson for the company here. I or any other basher here have nothing to lose acting as an @sshole in this thread - were the barbarians but you've got your company's public perception behind you.

Can someone reconfirm the above is true ?

empro seems to have said before the company don't emphasize on product sale ?

Argue so much here no use. If the above is true, those who think it is a ponzi can just send an email to KPDNKK. Let the authority go to their office and take back the documents to investigate

overpriced product, which doesnt sell. hence, selling 'membership' is easier lo..

Hi guys,visit the link below for mc ocean's product

http://mc-ocean2u.blogspot.com/p/product_18.html


It is true they don't push you to sell product,b'coz when you join as their member itself,you already purchased their product. you will receive products worth of RM 1900 after deduct all sort of fees from the initial payment of RM2163.so in order for you to generate income you have 2 options:

a) sales - you fork out more money,buy their product and sell them. or

b) recruit - you recruit ppl to be your downline,and receive commission of 10% of their initial purchase that is RM1900,it means you'll get RM190 for every person you recruit.you will also receive commission for every recruit done by your downline,the amount will be less then 10%.


so the process goes on,hence the pyramid will be formed.you will only earn as long as you and your downline recruit others.when it comes to a point where your pyramid stops,so will your income.



as for their recruiting tactics - an existing member,maybe a friend or family who already joined them will analysis ppl around,finding for a possible prospect.when they find one,will invite the prospect for a t-party(normal makan2).here they will intro you to other member and they will tell you their story.for example;

what they were doing before, how much was their salary and so on,then they will tell about how much they earn through this scheme and how long they have been doing it.


but to this point they will never tell you about the company(even the company name),also about the product.for further info,you will have to make an appointment and go for a presentation.but mind you,even here they will not brief you about their product.only will mention what are the product and where it's from.that's all.then,they will continue to talk about the recruitment and about their-self's.in the end will ask you to join them.

Put it this way..... If you want to emphasize that this is a pyramid scheme, then life is a one as well http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/...d-a-806772.html

Developed economies are crumbling because of debt and much importantly lower birth rates. Why are lower birth rates such an issue? Because governments need to collect taxes to fund their commitments. So eventually they can't cover their overhead costs such as public amenities and social welfare. Japan is a good example of an aging economy.

Technically isn't this a pyramid scheme as well? The government can't sustain due to lack of new population coming in.
So who u going to blame for being brought into this scheme as well? Must as well quit life right?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/...nt_ponzi_scheme

So guys get moving and start recruiting (making babies). At least 6 kids should be sufficient to rely on for your retirement.

Thank god we still have kampung people to support our economy.

well...jus for your info, mc ocean is set up by the previous network in lamberger called STEADY NETWORK if not mistaken. so wad did those guy do? go and ask those lamberger salesperson n i think all of them are able to giv u an ans, they're quite FAMOUS among them =)

Yup, this is true but apparently alot of ppl duno abt it

jaya_pc87, you said you were going to give this company a test run for a couple of months starting mid-january 2013. Could you please give me your feedback (sharing of knowledge) to others as promised.

I only ask this because one of my relatives has joined this scheme and is seeking financial assistance to come up with some $30K. The bank will not lend his the money so he is very desperate. He comes from a poor family and this might all be a very very big scam and may leave him and his family in a worse situation.

I would appreciate some feedback please before it is too late. Thank you.

hello everyone.i have also been talked into entering this business.but by the looks of it, it has so many negative reviews.as said by one of the buddies here, the price to pay registered is the same.any thoughts? =.=

i'd come across many things like this...requiring u to pay 30k just to get some title ( manager, etc ) to convince ppl that he started making money at first join. these kind of tactics cannot last long due to the last person joining will lose out. some even use the tactic of driving fancy cars ( brabus ), which in the end, bank come to tarik their car......

the real MLM would be having some consumer based to sustain the group sales. thus, this is the real title being awarded and sustainable as compared to directly forking out 30k to buy some uncertainty with many failures rate shown. hope this can advise ur friend and those who r being brainwashed.

honestly its the exact business model from lamp berger
100% exact copy just with diff product
and we all know how it ended up right

i heard some of them from lamp berger as well

Cannot trust... Plz be careful! One of my fren was kena

so what now?

lol, u wrong forum isit

i know mc chicken not mc ocean.

A story so far to me regarding this.

One of my friend joined the business and she said she is succeeding. I don't know if it is true or not.
When I visited and when for their introduction, I was surprised that the price is quite high from all MLM I have heard. Then I noticed the products, which they consume 1 hour to tell me regarding it. Then after that, they show me the slides with almost all the word capitalized and like all others, the numbers is so damn big I stepped back to read it.

And the trick they put is you can reg right on the spot with RM195. No problem there right? However when they continue to tell me the story, they mention this, "after your initial registration let us work out on how you are going to pay the remaining," which is, loan from bank.

The trick is they want you to work hard to get the money, and then they push you to get the highest possible, which you will need to pay the 30K.

They persuade you to sign up on the spot by playing the psychology game, bring out the form and put it in front of your eyes. They say no worries, your form will be tore up if you do not want to register. I think to myself, (of course you "tore" my form, but all my personal information is there) so I excused and just simply say that I will need to reconsider.
In the end I did not register.

Oh by the way I read a few posts up just now and yes, it was under a different name, Steady Global Network. If only I am not mistaken (don't take my word on this) they change the name cause KPDNKK got complaint made under the name. That is why the new license you can see in the office dated back to 2010, but the company initally started in Malaysia was in 2008.

owh shiat,,,, i join in le 0.0....rm2273 already paid....luckily didn't photostate ic and the bank book @@
they need those for bank in purpose...

wat to do @@

HELP!!!!
(should i just ignore them till a year or 2,dunno whether they come after me again @@)

This post has been edited by Ryunaruto: Apr 24 2013, 09:00 PM