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Just recently been introduce to this Mc Ocean after passing the so-called interview.

at first, it really makes me curious about how they earn all those income.. 4 digits, 5 digits and so on. Then I pass the interview and was invited to their company to see their product. Look so familiar with all the technic used by some MLM before ( sorry forget the name ).

After long time explaining the product which I don't have any interest in. Then come with all their legal paper. After all this, here comes a presentation about their company and how you gonna earn.
For now, the price for membership and registration has raised to MYR2,717.

I start to feel suspicious when having the interview. They always say they won't force people and won't do a mass recruit but only potential partner.

But then by the way the KP talked to me after the presentation, they don't even try to give me time to think about it whether I want to join or not but just say sign this paper and pay up then you'll be good to go for the M&U.

Luckily I didn't have that much of cash on hand so I get to drag the payment but I've signed the paper and let them take a photo of my IC. ( I believe they can't do much since I haven't pay anything )
Then when I was left alone with my friend who tries to ask to join this MLM. I asked her, does she take a loan from the bank for the 40k? Incredibly that she says yes.

So now, from what I've read in this forum. I believe whatever we type in, all the information will become their source and they will change the way they recruit and become more and more brainwashing.
I'm kinda lucky that I find this topic before I pay for the MYR2,717.

I'm not sure for others, as I myself really don't like to do this kind of recruit so it's a no-go for me. but I believe many people will still fall into this brainwashing talk as many people don't really go google on things and read the comment.

P.S: After knowing the brand name, all the member I saw tell me you can go google it up about this brand but no need to listen to all those negative comments. So does that mean that they actually looking up on google about their own company and they know all this kind of topic and so to prevent from failing to recruit you?

well, I suppose that if we believe about those negative comment they will not earn and they will have the problem with the 40K loan. well, good luck to my friend hopefully she manage to survive wth this MLM. as for me.. I'm OUT.

Good luck to all of those who either believe this Mc Ocean or not.
Try not to make your own family worry about you so much. Not worth it. Trust me.

This post has been edited by mxz: Nov 14 2017, 03:36 AM

After going thru all the post in this thread I somehow got to understand how this so call ocean thingy business run, but seems like a normal business found anywhere in this world ?

Maybe its just not your cup of tea but for whatever reasons in this world, every opportunity counts and still able to create success if you're determined.

I can see some people mentioning about the 40k capital (Anyone can confirm this ?) Any business require a capital and as a entrepreneur or business person,should focus on the returns instead of the capital ... BITCOIN is about RM25k now, no one will buy it anymore ? NO, because the profitability is there, LOTTERY is 0.01% but everyone still buy it lol ..

I would just say dont sulk at any business if its not your cup of tea, its just that either you can walk away instead of complaining or being jealous when someone did well or earned better money than you

*I'm not affliated to this macdonald ocean thingy by any means, just a business-minded person giving advise to young people out there

So you're proud that you lost the RM2345 and being a failure in this lamb burger MLM ? Nice experience being a failure, i think better experience if you succeed at something instead of complaining on a forum *no offense dont flame me pls

Wow, didn't know even in 2017 still got a thread on this.

Got invited to one of the tea party and "business presentation". The one invited me pick me up using BMW. The food is nice in some hotel in KL
Good thing i still have a sound mind during the presentation. I can see that all of them are brainwashed to the core. Jumping up and down and yelling like monkeys in a zoo for so called "motivation". Selling garbage product for ridiculous price. Whole 1 hour introducing KP's and their Sob stories of bringing parents to Haji, buying a new house or whatever. And whole 2 hour session learning on how to persuade people to do 30k Loan to join them. Man i'm glad i did not join this. Wasted half a day in my life. Btw this is 2015 people. If people who are desperate/weak sure will termakan their preach.

My advice? STAY AWAY

This post has been edited by reed90: Nov 14 2017, 03:23 PM

I think you did a great job staying away, because its not your cup of tea nor you're suitable as an entrepreneur.

When I started up my own cafe business last year I took a bank loan of around RM150k and bring monthly RM10~20k nett profit ... Whats so great about RM30k loan if a business can bring much more profitability , capital is just a small amount .. do you think thats a huge amount 30k 40k or whatever shit im not sure of this (im sick of this thread where people are sulking because they cant see a business nature) ? Maybe because you dont own that amount of money thats why you say until RM30k is so godly huge amount , what can you do with 30k ? Can buy 1 bitcoin or maybe one Perodua Axia ? Thats all, dont sulk this is nature of business ... Dont talk about sympathy, its only for the disabled.

Imagine one cup of teh ais selling for RM2, the cost is about RM0.20 cents only do you think the kedai mamak boss will give you discount because he is feeling bad for earning your money ? Only the consumer will complain why RM2 teh ais so exp etc because they are poor, and the reason why a businessman will be rich

I guess everyone should be careful dealing business with you then..There's a reason why this McOcean company (or the previous companies are being flagged by Bank Negara.. If you think that is ok, then definitely you have the potential to create another 'McOcean' company with your very business minded intelligence.

I know Bank Negara blacklist illegal investment company, like JJPTR, Richway etc money games, BNM also regulates investments such as unit trusts and mutual funds ... this dummy ocean is a direct selling company like Amway, Cosway, etc ? I think we should check properly as refer to KPDNKK (any product trading and selling company must register with them) if they really have the license to run a legal business ? Anyone can help check the latest business license at KPDNKK please ?? Search for 2017 one please, dont show outdated data. Kind souls please get this data


Then we can prove if this damn ocean is legal or illegal ?? Got license = legal , gambling is illegal, but with license you can gambling 24Hours non stop until you die also no problem, without license you try sell nasi lemak at roadside la, DBKL sure come to confiscate your nasi lemak stall and worst of all give you saman and sue you to court

Imagine you opening a burger stall, before you start your business you go to supermarket and buy bread, butter, burger patty, mayonaise, chilli sauce, bbq sauce .. you pay RM200 to the counter and you bring all the ingredients back home ready to open your burger stall .. this is what will happen next,

Case 1
The next day, you feel lazy and you slept for the whole day doing shit at home for a week, all your ingredient expired and you lost the RM200 capital

Case 2
The next day you're so happy that you're starting your owm business, and you sold all your burger on that day itself, you earn RM700 - RM200 = RM500 profit

Case 3
The next day is raining, no one came to buy your burger, do you blame the rain and just let your burger all turns sour and loss that RM200 capital or you're going to find a way ? Either move your stall to a dry area or bring all your burgers to sell to customers at a nearby supermarket to earn back RM500??


Your statement "the suckers are just trying to get back their money", well which business man in a fucked up mind will be willing to lose money, either you're too lazy or you gave up on your own business and prefer sleeping at home ... I cant find another reason to blame a business saying its a scam or finding reasons for your own failure

u re equating a "business" with dubious nature with your so-called successful, legitimate business

not all business are the same and deserve same level of credits

things like JJPTR Richway Monspace YSLM also can claim themselves as entrepreneur, if follow your logic

there are also underground business like illegal money lending, massage parlour, gambling dens which run like a corporate also, their turnover is way higher than legitimate business

so ya don't blame any of these, because of your own inability to join one of them, btw nett profit of 10k-20k is nth to shout about bro



This post has been edited by PhakFuhZai: Nov 15 2017, 12:01 AM

in malaysia, got money = got cable = got power = absolutely legal

has your cafe been harassed by DBKL officers before?

has your premise been visited by LHDN officers before?

without some skills and resources, legal can turn into illegal, illegal can somehow become legal in bolehland

My point is, is this ocean thing illegal? I can see that their business license is valid until 2021 from KPDNKK website ?

Where is the prove that this business is not legitimate ? I dont care what is the nature of the business as long as it has a license to operate then it is a legitimate business. Government is not stupid to just hand out license to a company without background.

Thats the fact, don't try to mix up the investment thing like JJPTR and also illegal money lending loan sharks that already clearly illegal and can be sentenced to jail, don't mention irrelevant and contradicting point, that lowers your intelligence. Bring up facts and prove it

As long as with license then its legitimate. Side topics such as harassed by polis or undertable bribe please dont discuss here in forum, you can complain to mr.police, DBKL and see what is their reaction.

Go and learn the definition for money game and the effect it causes, idiot. This thread is for warning people not to join dubious scam. If you up for it, then go. Definitely. But don't come crying when all leaders take all your money and leave you there.

This post has been edited by reed90: Nov 15 2017, 08:53 AM

After some research on this mcocean its called 亿万航 in chinese ? Surprisingly i found many positive articles on major malaysian newspaper, and only negative rants in online forums. I prefer to trust newspaper author with their name printed on the article, rather than some anonymous people behind keyboards posting in forums.

If you know the trend of money game, its a promised high return % of investment.. I dont think you get promised return in this macdonald ocean thing right ? after reading all the post in this thread, the so called people who went for interviews only mention looking for people, seriously which business can survive without expanding their market lol ? Even Jack Ma and Alibaba need people to help deliver their packages after the 11.11 craze, this is called expansion to reach out to grab more market

This post has been edited by xMika: Nov 15 2017, 09:10 AM

and what sort of license do they have? ordinary business license or direct selling license??

don't carry out the mindset of license is the proof of legality here in malaysia

you do legitimate business is fine, but if you don't understand the off the record rules here in Malaysia, you can only go this far, eventually you might as well work as a mid tier manager in corporates donating 20+% of your income to rosmah every month

very good, you should subscribe to Utusan and NST, good for your mental health

we should trust Monspace also, for it has been featured on the cover of Airasia Travel 360 magazine before, and the recent famous Dato Seri who beaten up rela, his face has been featured in one or two local chinese business magazines before, a known entrepreneur and philanthropist

lolol

Direct selling license I believe as their licnese starts with AJL ? Akta Jualan Langsung, therefore they are allowed to do recruitment of business partners/agents etc ? I think that is totally fair as this type of business rely on network distribution to create sales and profit.

Please dont talk about off record rules, its not suitable to mention this topic here, you can go to kopitiam for that as it off records means no data support on the fact/ blow water topic.

And you got no facts to supports your contents, ended up that you need to give me suggestions on what I should work on ? Come on bro, you need more intelligence for that ..

Ahh, the major ones I'm talking about is Nanyang SP, if they publish scam news you think their license wont kena gantung ? Like The Edge ? What air asia travel 360 magazine lolololol I've never heard of that, non-creditable magazines from some private media house ?

Dont bring in irrelevant examples bro, what dato seri beat up people is non related topics ... Straight up your mind and bring facts to the table please, sick and tired of seeing this ocean thing hanging in this forum for 5 years everytime i read this finance n business section

if u keep emphasizing on facts and facts, chances are you are not in their circles, people who know the stories inside out will not demand facts, facts is for university 4 flatters only. If you think Nanyang is the credible source of news for you, I can see what inclination of you already

The Edge was suspended for a wrong reason, eventually court verdict in favor of them and demanded KDN to pay them for the damages

lastly, this is public forum, you got the right to not agree with someone, but you can't ask people to stop posting their opinions, in short, you tak suka you keluar lo

If dont emphasize on facts then emphasize on public opinion, blow water or fitnah ? I think people should be logical, make logical decision based on what they see in a business, not negative online stories becausebthose people failed or didnt put in enough effort. I believe those people who posted here , eventually is not in the business .. mostly based on online stories only .. people used to say Bitcoin is a scam as well, some people who are brave enough decide to believe in the idea and look what Bitcoin worth now

I didnt say that i dont allow people to post in public forum, but pls post facts .. not some conspiracy theories or blow water facts .. else this thread shud be in kopitiam