Dupe account user  Use your real account bro, wah you know their business quite well, i think you're in it, are you a member of them ? Maybe you are the one who failed in the business and come here to complain and rant hahahahaha .. what a failure 

this my real account la..register long time ago la..just not active...and just google mcocean..and saw your replied..feel you quite pity..so just post a replied lo..haha...you still want to pretend to be not a mcocean or SD member huh...joining this business always need to pretend this pretend that la huh? u can talk and said me is failure or anything la huh..as u happy will do..just after all you dont be more failure in this business la huh...maybe u will success drag more downline under you...and enjoy your life la huh..add oil and good luck to you...hehehe

Dupe account user  Use your real account bro, wah you know their business quite well, i think you're in it, are you a member of them ? Maybe you are the one who failed in the business and come here to complain and rant hahahahaha .. what a failure 

What made this scamming organization alive and legalized?

Products.

Yes, Mc Ocean has sales, every buyers a.k.a waterfish will be their potential 'business partner' which is will helping distribute products and scamming people.

Yes network marketing is legit, but for Mc Ocean, it is a wolf covered in sheepskin.

Wah RM50k have to pay hutang 20 years ? Buy car also RM50K have to settle in maximum 7 or 9 years eh .. what kind of loan is that ? Don't simply talk cock la bro .. Personal loan maximum 5 years .. Car loan also maximum 9 years only .. you open your own bank ah ?

Just found out from KDPDNKK they got their licensed updated since last year, until 2021 ?
Renew on 2016, how they get to renew licensed from all the negative posts and so called pyramid scheme found on the internet ??  



Btw, what you mentioned got no problem as for the money you put in, you got product with similar value right ?
Thats the same as going to any shop to buy an item with a price tag?

Thats not pyramid scheme, pyramid scheme is when you get money from recruiting people who put in investment with promised returns with no actual product/investment transaction.

But I can see Multi-level marketing tactics here that you mentioned, "finding business partners" with the purpose of getting distributors to help moving their products. That is totally legit.

Bro, I'm a 6 star member in lowyat and you're a new user with 1 post just to reply me ? I think you are quite suspicious la, what is your intention here ? Don't use dupe account la wei ..

wow, so the stars really have an advantage ? talking about intention, so we should invest in Mc Ocean or not ?

If you willing to scam everyone you know then this Mc Ocean thing is suitable for you 

wah interest 104% for 20years..
painfull exp ni 😥
but at least he can use the 50k as he like la

btw got any good investment to recormand ka?i also looking for 1... low risk..or maybe a good fd rate also can...can pm me if u know..ill go check it out.....wan to invest rm10k to 15k like that .small amount jer

btw got any good investment to recormand ka?i also looking for 1... low risk..or maybe a good fd rate also can...can pm me if u know..ill go check it out.....wan to invest rm10k to 15k like that .small amount jer

Are you interested about unit trust?

Don't try to twist my words, multi-level marketing is legit, but not for Mc Ocean, downside of this marketing is no returning purchases which is if there's no new victim can be scammed, Mc Ocean is gonna collapse. I will do my best to make sure it will collapse 

If the 'business partner' do not have right to choose what product they want to buy, this is not making sense, why not RM50, RM100, RM200, but RM30k? RM30k = 16 sets of 2k products? WTF? Why fix the price like that? Why no more choices? You are not selling products, you just selling membership of joining this scamming family.

From 0 to a complete transaction(scam), non of you are mentioning about the products, until received it.

"Hey just join us and you are financial freedom, only need 30k of capital, it will completely change your life." This is what I heard the most, why they are not telling "Hey just buy our products there are 16 sets of 2k products, you have no choice to add/deduct items that's fixed, RM30k thanks, then you have to selling same amount of products to few people so you can profit from what you spend."

Capital? Instead of products?

Selling membership, then free products, oh wait have to label price tag on products, overpriced doesn't matter, total amount of 1 set product must be 2k, so people will thought they are paying for products instead of membership, haha.

Are you interested about unit trust?

he bought myvi. pay deposit 20k

i ask him to put the balance money for investment.

Lol, you sure about this ? I think you're making up your own stories, as an outsider ? How long you've been in their business ?

They earn from selling memberships ? They got a direct selling license, means recruiting distributor and licensee to distribute their products, its not membership. Membership is some sort of having special privileges just like McDonald VIP member, but you dont get the rights to open and setup your McDonald's restaurant as you like.

Are you sure that they dont have any return purchase or regular customer ? What makes you so sure ? I like your confidence, but truth and confidence is two different things, just simply spit out accusations ? Mehh

Don't try to help wiping Mc Ocean's dirty ass and use McD as example, if every people in Mc Ocean using legal and ethical way to run their 'business', this Mc Ocean topic should be closed already from long ago, why this topic still so today? Because of you scumbags. Mc Ocean... ops I should say Steady Dynasty KPs providing training courses to teach people how to scam their friends, non of Amway, Herbalife, and other companies from same industry using this evil way to run their business.

Stop repeating Mc Ocean got direct selling license, 5 years right? But do you know Mc Ocean still in watching list from Bank Negara? Besides that, do you know the dark history of Mc Ocean?

http://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/2017/20170920_FCA_EN.pdf

Can you find your own company Steady Dynasty from the blacklist? 

I don't care how they got 5 years license, I care about why Mc Ocean and Steady Dynasty blacklisted by Bank Negara 4 years ago and why that time KPDNKK rejected license renew of Mc Ocean?

Can you tell me what happened?

to be honest
i dun even know wat is unit trust.might go google it later.
i noob to all this thinggy 😥

After i saw all the products, to me
All are nonsense overpriced things!

Omega 3,6,9 as good antioxidants???
Well maybe true but the latest best antioxidant found is astaxanthin ok. And im pretty sure i can get astaxanthin supplements far cheaper at any pharmacies compared to your omega 3 blablabla.

And the jus al kurma, a small bottle worth rm13???

So you want me to pay all rm2000++++ and even rm30k for such products and consume them all???? If i want to sell it, who wants to buy?

Better use that money to buy SK2 products, or mary kay or JOIN ANOTHER REAL BUSINESS .

Hey guys, i can share my experience with Mc Ocean . I did not join their program anyway, so no worries.
STAGE 1:
I was recommended by one of my friend to go for an interview at Wisma Standard Chartered Standard Chartered near Taman Teknologi Malaysia. Once i went there and settle down, three person come and talk to me in turns. After the interview, there are a few questions in my mind that I really don't understand.

They are looking for "Business Partners" to join their organisation, but they're not willing to share their company name/info to me. If you want me to join as your business partner, why can't you trust me and share info to me? It doesn't make sense. They will say this is part of the system, they can't tell, and they claimed that someone will tell you eventually. But luckily someone did share an info to me during the interview. They're doing something call "Network Franchising". Okay... At least i have some info to google about it.

Then i went home and google it, then i found this link The Real Truth about MLM & Network Marketing . The link taught me a lot. I would recommend you guys to watch that video.

STAGE 2:
Few days later, i got the invitation to proceed to Stage 2 via Whatsapp. Basically it says "You have been invited for the business module presentation on at Fraser Business Park".  Yet another question pop into my mind, what is the company name? Why they're still hiding the company name? I don't feel comfortable at that stage, i started to feel that something is fishy.

So, i meet up my friend for a quick drink on that day before the presentation. During the "Yum Cha" session, my friend keep pulling their senior partners to come talk to me and share their successful story. I asked what are they doing and how their company operates, and yet again they're unwilling to share to me at all. Funny huh?

Then finally, they bring me to their office. Now i know they're called Mc Ocean. They started showing me the products they have, mostly are health care products. Then they show me a bunch of photos on the wall. Long story short, they just want to show you how successful they are. Not sure is it reliable or not. After they show me everything, me and my friend sit down with another consultant and they start showing their business plan to me.

Yup, so that guy double confirm to me that my guess is true. They're doing Network Franchising or MLM related stuff. They don't call it MLM, they called it "SYSTEM".

Joining the program is RM2400 ++. Around RM 400 will be membership fee and training fee and the remaining RM2000 will be converted to points whereby you can use it to buy their products. Depends what is your upline ranking, he/she will get at least RM200 per new down line member. Then they did promote another "Fast Track" program whereby they teach you how to take back your investment and earn money faster. You would need to pay RM34,000 upfront to upgrade your own membership so that you can get your membership referral percentage higher. If i'm not mistaken, per down line registered you would get at least RM 600. They also claimed that they will teach/guide you how to get the RM34,000 funding. I did ask them what is the source of funding? And they say, borrow from friends, personal loan,etc, which i felt it is a bit weird and inappropriate .

The work there is quite simple. You can do direct selling for their product if you wish, but it wouldn't bring you good income. The income comes a lot when you successfully recruit a GOOD down line. The definition of "Good down line" means, he/she is willing to spend money and do new member recruitment. All you need to do is to find 5 damn good down line. Then once you found 5 down line, all you need to do now is to help your down line to recruit good member. Because according to their "SYSTEM", you will get promoted to another rank if your 5 down line promoted as well.

So i ended up rejecting it and go home. And i'm very happy with my decision.

STAGE 3:
I did not go for STAGE 3 as i did not pay the RM2400. =)
So now, let's puzzle the things together:
1. Why STAGE 1 - Interview?
As i said, if you want to earn money, your down-line need to do their part. They want to filter out those lazy people who does not recruit new member and those who don't like to work as a team. To maintain a healthy Network Franchising world or MLM, it requires team work. That's why you can see no one is willing to share the company name, hence "TEAM WORK" !!

2. Why not revealing their company name much earlier?
Perhaps they worry their "Well-known" name appears on your mobile. They have a lot bad stories when you google "Mc Ocean".

3. Are they doing direct selling?
You can. They also did promote something call "Indirect selling". Meaning, you can sell those products via your down-line member.

Summary
1. Is network marketing/franchising legit?
I wouldn't say it is a scam. This scheme actually works. As i said, if you have a healthy network/down-line, you will definitely earn a lot of money. Yes, you need to put effort, in finding quality "Friends" to build your network.

2. Should I join it?
My answer will be up to you. I don't like MLM. If you like to make new friends and you don't care too much on annoying your friends to join your network, then YES. If you're thinking of joining, please do double think again. You really really need to put effort into it if you wish to get back your money faster.
Thanks.