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Jun 21 2017, 12:27 PM
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Jun 27 2017, 11:26 PM
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Jun 29 2017, 01:50 AM
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Just went to their office today
Keep persue me to join with joining fee Rm2417 and after the mnu conference only they will show me optional way to earn 6k for every single person i bring in as my downline I was wondering why i need to pay 2k plus in order to know so called optional plan? It sounds like a stupid thing and the way to get con Fron what i read through here, the opitional plan should be paying up 34k to get commission 6k per person So far anyone is still in this mc ocean? |
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Jun 29 2017, 11:02 AM
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QUOTE(jie103 @ Jun 29 2017, 01:50 AM) Just went to their office today I find it weird that you say you went to their office, yet you still ask if anyone is still in the company.Keep persue me to join with joining fee Rm2417 and after the mnu conference only they will show me optional way to earn 6k for every single person i bring in as my downline I was wondering why i need to pay 2k plus in order to know so called optional plan? It sounds like a stupid thing and the way to get con Fron what i read through here, the opitional plan should be paying up 34k to get commission 6k per person So far anyone is still in this mc ocean? Didn't you see anyone there? Whole office empty?? |
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Jun 29 2017, 05:15 PM
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Jun 29 2017, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(jie103 @ Jun 29 2017, 01:50 AM) Just went to their office today u joining?Keep persue me to join with joining fee Rm2417 and after the mnu conference only they will show me optional way to earn 6k for every single person i bring in as my downline I was wondering why i need to pay 2k plus in order to know so called optional plan? It sounds like a stupid thing and the way to get con Fron what i read through here, the opitional plan should be paying up 34k to get commission 6k per person So far anyone is still in this mc ocean? |
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Jun 30 2017, 12:21 AM
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73 posts Joined: Apr 2011 |
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Jun 30 2017, 10:38 AM
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138 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: Puchong |
I was introduced to Mc Ocean through a friend of mine. At first, everything seems intriguing because he didn't disclose too much information when I asked questions about his business. My intuition told me it was related to MLM, and I confirmed it when I went to tour their office in KL.
I wanted to know more of their modus operandi, so I ended up going to their MNU session with an open mind but I kept a level head. The atmosphere was very lively throughout the meeting while the members there, including my friend always kept a positive vibe by cheering, singing and dancing as they try to stir up your emotion. You know, something like "I feel so pumped and motivated. This might actually work. I can achieve anything". After listening to all their fantastic testimonials and business plan a.k.a. "brainwashing", I decided to join as a Gold member to try out their products. I was also persuaded to take a RM33k bank loan just to have more "advantage" in this business but I didn't succumb to their pressure. What's the point of doing a legit MLM business if I haven't even try or believe in the product that I'll be selling, right? Anyways, I bought and consumed a couple of their best selling products per my friend's recommendation. In my honest opinion, they are quite good especially the Enerfiber. However, their products are way too overpriced for locally manufactured goods even after inclusion of my membership discount. The only way you're ever gonna get a good price is by going up the ranks and hence the RM33k comes into the picture. TL;DR. I joined as a low tier member, used up my products and never bothered to follow up because MLM ain't my shit. Also, their products are too expensive for me to sustain as there are many other better choices in the market. Conclusion? Don't give up your job to pursue this if you're happy with your life. Don't waste your time if you know you're not cut to do MLM. You can still try it as a side business and improve your skills along the way. Who knows, it might eventually work out for you in the long run. Just don't get too heavily invested from the get-go so that you can cut your losses if things go South. Others here have already pointed out the pro's and con's so I won't go into the details. Personally, I would only consider going all out doing MLM if only I'm a bankrupt. This post has been edited by Jer: Jun 30 2017, 10:59 AM |
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Jun 30 2017, 12:38 PM
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138 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: Puchong |
QUOTE(GBH @ Jun 30 2017, 11:59 AM) I was surprised that it works for me. When I have constipation, I would consume 1 sachet before going to bed. After 12 hours, I always look for a toilet This post has been edited by Jer: Jun 30 2017, 12:38 PM |
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Jun 30 2017, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(Jer @ Jun 30 2017, 10:38 AM) I was introduced to Mc Ocean through a friend of mine. At first, everything seems intriguing because he didn't disclose too much information when I asked questions about his business. My intuition told me it was related to MLM, and I confirmed it when I went to tour their office in KL. So pitiful to see those who paid 33kI wanted to know more of their modus operandi, so I ended up going to their MNU session with an open mind but I kept a level head. The atmosphere was very lively throughout the meeting while the members there, including my friend always kept a positive vibe by cheering, singing and dancing as they try to stir up your emotion. You know, something like "I feel so pumped and motivated. This might actually work. I can achieve anything". After listening to all their fantastic testimonials and business plan a.k.a. "brainwashing", I decided to join as a Gold member to try out their products. I was also persuaded to take a RM33k bank loan just to have more "advantage" in this business but I didn't succumb to their pressure. What's the point of doing a legit MLM business if I haven't even try or believe in the product that I'll be selling, right? Anyways, I bought and consumed a couple of their best selling products per my friend's recommendation. In my honest opinion, they are quite good especially the Enerfiber. However, their products are way too overpriced for locally manufactured goods even after inclusion of my membership discount. The only way you're ever gonna get a good price is by going up the ranks and hence the RM33k comes into the picture. TL;DR. I joined as a low tier member, used up my products and never bothered to follow up because MLM ain't my shit. Also, their products are too expensive for me to sustain as there are many other better choices in the market. Conclusion? Don't give up your job to pursue this if you're happy with your life. Don't waste your time if you know you're not cut to do MLM. You can still try it as a side business and improve your skills along the way. Who knows, it might eventually work out for you in the long run. Just don't get too heavily invested from the get-go so that you can cut your losses if things go South. Others here have already pointed out the pro's and con's so I won't go into the details. Personally, I would only consider going all out doing MLM if only I'm a bankrupt. |
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Jun 30 2017, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(Jer @ Jun 30 2017, 10:38 AM) I was introduced to Mc Ocean through a friend of mine. At first, everything seems intriguing because he didn't disclose too much information when I asked questions about his business. My intuition told me it was related to MLM, and I confirmed it when I went to tour their office in KL. u joined 33k plan?I wanted to know more of their modus operandi, so I ended up going to their MNU session with an open mind but I kept a level head. The atmosphere was very lively throughout the meeting while the members there, including my friend always kept a positive vibe by cheering, singing and dancing as they try to stir up your emotion. You know, something like "I feel so pumped and motivated. This might actually work. I can achieve anything". After listening to all their fantastic testimonials and business plan a.k.a. "brainwashing", I decided to join as a Gold member to try out their products. I was also persuaded to take a RM33k bank loan just to have more "advantage" in this business but I didn't succumb to their pressure. What's the point of doing a legit MLM business if I haven't even try or believe in the product that I'll be selling, right? Anyways, I bought and consumed a couple of their best selling products per my friend's recommendation. In my honest opinion, they are quite good especially the Enerfiber. However, their products are way too overpriced for locally manufactured goods even after inclusion of my membership discount. The only way you're ever gonna get a good price is by going up the ranks and hence the RM33k comes into the picture. TL;DR. I joined as a low tier member, used up my products and never bothered to follow up because MLM ain't my shit. Also, their products are too expensive for me to sustain as there are many other better choices in the market. Conclusion? Don't give up your job to pursue this if you're happy with your life. Don't waste your time if you know you're not cut to do MLM. You can still try it as a side business and improve your skills along the way. Who knows, it might eventually work out for you in the long run. Just don't get too heavily invested from the get-go so that you can cut your losses if things go South. Others here have already pointed out the pro's and con's so I won't go into the details. Personally, I would only consider going all out doing MLM if only I'm a bankrupt. |
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Jul 1 2017, 10:07 PM
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Jul 1 2017, 11:06 PM
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Jul 3 2017, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(stealyourheart @ Jun 30 2017, 01:01 PM) For proper MLM, the start up fee will be very low. If the upfront payment is more than several thousands; better beware as it could be a Ponzi scheme disguised as MLM.Also if the company is selling wellness related products, do evaluate the worthiness by checking if they have 3rd party endorsements to back their claims. Not many will stand behind their claims, as the products could be mostly useless; those who do are legitimate. AFAIK, even the big MLM companies, don't really stand behind their products backing with medical report to justify their claim; on blood sugar control or cholesterol lowering. So if you find one that guarantees on blood test result; you will know that the products are legitimate, more so if there is 3rd party accreditation. This post has been edited by dayalan86: Jul 3 2017, 11:27 AM |
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Jul 3 2017, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Jul 3 2017, 11:23 AM) For proper MLM, the start up fee will be very low. If the upfront payment is more than several thousands; better beware as it could be a Ponzi scheme disguised as MLM. This is terrible man, but if you managed to pull five people who willing to pay 33k in a half year, then you are one of the most successful businessman a.k.a brainwasher, 150k of sales is a big number.Also if the company is selling wellness related products, do evaluate the worthiness by checking if they have 3rd party endorsements to back their claims. Not many will stand behind their claims, as the products could be mostly useless; those who do are legitimate. AFAIK, even the big MLM companies, don't really stand behind their products backing with medical report to justify their claim; on blood sugar control or cholesterol lowering. So if you find one that guarantees on blood test result; you will know that the products are legitimate, more so if there is 3rd party accreditation. Regardless of how great is Mc Ocean products, they still prefer using MLM way to sell their products instead of most effective marketing strategy. |
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Jul 3 2017, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(stealyourheart @ Jul 3 2017, 03:10 PM) This is terrible man, but if you managed to pull five people who willing to pay 33k in a half year, then you are one of the most successful businessman a.k.a brainwasher, 150k of sales is a big number. You are right, however, referral marketing actually carries more weight than traditional marketing method (when it is done right); MLM model is good but many are abusing it. In addition, useless products with whatever method, is just bad and unethical.Regardless of how great is Mc Ocean products, they still prefer using MLM way to sell their products instead of most effective marketing strategy. This post has been edited by dayalan86: Jul 3 2017, 05:05 PM |
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Jul 19 2017, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(Ralna @ Feb 19 2017, 07:41 PM) The "correct" procedure is tell your upline you want to withdraw, but they will try to persuade you to stay. Hey guys, Go to Southgate HQ with all your products to initiate the withdrawal process. The staff there will ask you if you have talked to your upline & the reason for withdrawal. If you have used some of the products, you can't get the full refund. I joined McOcean in 2015, bought RM33k of the products, used some of the products, so expected to get RM25k back, but they rejected certain products (must return in whole set), so my returned goods were worth 23k only. To break the 33k down, - 20k: 13k of refund + 7k of previous commissions paid to my bank account & product sales - 10k: own product consumption including eionizer (about 8k) & rejected goods due to return policy (about 2k) - 3k+: admin charges with GST I got the refund. Yeah, have to wait for uplines to make sales to get your money back. Need to follow up and wait for several months, or chase the money yourself if you can't wait to get your money back. My advice: 1. Don't sign up if you are not ready for the whole business. It's not a scam but this biz is not for everyone coz of the startup capital involved. 2. If you can't afford it, then don't join. I did my calculation before I joined the biz, so I knew where my money went. 3. Use your own money to start a biz. Don't borrow from the banks coz you'll feel pressured to pay every month. Even if you do borrow, go for loans with low interest rate, or make sure you have enough savings as a back up for several months. I don't see myself as a victim. I did my research before I signed up. It was a logical decision I made. The reasons I terminated my membership were I didn't have a supportive team to back me up, and the biz wasn't suitable for a straightforward person like me. Doing sales talk is not cheating if you fulfil your promises and products are functional as you claim them to be. My uni friend did brought me through that three phase of meet up and company round garden. I roughly got an idea about what they are doing. Honestly speaking, their friendly culture is pretty good i would say. To know more about this McOcean, i asked around and i am lucky to came across! I got actual information by one of the ex-McOcean member. I shall put it in a simplified way. Joined 4years back, and currently no longer active in this business. It is exactly like what it is described up here by Raina. Couldn't say it is a scam, but just the way they run their plan is different. in a simplified way on looking it.. The more you are willing to spend time to socialize, the fastest you can get your income. Yes, it is as promised, effort base. MLM is only on TWO + ONE things: 1. Products 2. Recruitment + How healthy is the marketing plan (which could be subjective) **If you like and ohwkay with all of their marketing plan and the way they are running, you are fine to go ahead =) IF you think it is not what you want or not legit, just walk away ............................................................................................................................................ IF you are interested to join, you could think it through IF this business model suitable for you and your wanting? IF it is a YES, go by the flow with your own logic analyzing. IF it is a NO, withdraw asap before exceeding the self-termination and buy-back policy. do check with the company latest policies as it might differ over time. That's some words from ex-McOcean member. Peace! |
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Jul 21 2017, 11:44 AM
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QUOTE(vivianting @ Jul 19 2017, 09:43 AM) Hey guys, What are you doing now after quit MC-Ocean?My uni friend did brought me through that three phase of meet up and company round garden. I roughly got an idea about what they are doing. Honestly speaking, their friendly culture is pretty good i would say. To know more about this McOcean, i asked around and i am lucky to came across! I got actual information by one of the ex-McOcean member. I shall put it in a simplified way. Joined 4years back, and currently no longer active in this business. It is exactly like what it is described up here by Raina. Couldn't say it is a scam, but just the way they run their plan is different. in a simplified way on looking it.. The more you are willing to spend time to socialize, the fastest you can get your income. Yes, it is as promised, effort base. MLM is only on TWO + ONE things: 1. Products 2. Recruitment + How healthy is the marketing plan (which could be subjective) **If you like and ohwkay with all of their marketing plan and the way they are running, you are fine to go ahead =) IF you think it is not what you want or not legit, just walk away ............................................................................................................................................ IF you are interested to join, you could think it through IF this business model suitable for you and your wanting? IF it is a YES, go by the flow with your own logic analyzing. IF it is a NO, withdraw asap before exceeding the self-termination and buy-back policy. do check with the company latest policies as it might differ over time. That's some words from ex-McOcean member. Peace! |
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