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post Jul 22 2012, 11:17 PM

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keep shooting moonwalk!

spam some old pic!

#1 KL Night View
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#2 Try slow shutter!
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#3 Destination 1M
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#4 Reflection
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post Jul 22 2012, 11:52 PM

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Camera Sony DSLR-A850
Exposure 6
Aperture f/14.0
Focal Length 35 mm
ISO Speed 200
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Flash Off, Did not fire

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long time no edit pics...too much??

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Wow Evankeat! Very nice! Where did you take the first and 2nd picture?
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QUOTE(zstan @ Jul 22 2012, 07:44 PM)
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Hi, do you use flash in this shot?
This is very hungry looking nice shot, I mean, made me hungry rclxms.gif
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This 02 and 03, which better.
one is cropped and another non
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QUOTE(soket @ Jul 21 2012, 02:21 PM)
sample

is tis normal for tamron 17-50 2.8?

the right side kinda softer than left side at wide open

btw image is not resized, file size  ~16mb
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yup. i very scare use tamron to shoot family potrait, the corner all will distort "very obviously" i rather use 1855 kit to shoot with less distort, and since family portrait is F8.

and, yea, hence 1650 has its value.

QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Jul 21 2012, 03:29 PM)
today shot in sinus torturing condition  sad.gif

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1. get well soon smile.gif
2. great shot! first photo from you that has commercial standard! (tips: add in a tack more of contrast)
3. stick back with sony flash. if cant afford F58, then get F43 as long as u dont jump into big hall event, u are find with F43.

QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Jul 21 2012, 09:01 PM)
How many megapixels are your pictures? I use all 16mp but I realise that its taking too long to upload. 21 pictures 126.7MB. rclxub.gif Should I use a lower mp?
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upload to?
(FB auto resize before uploading, so... not bothered)

QUOTE(d4rkholeang3l @ Jul 21 2012, 09:07 PM)
Been awhile since I last shoot public events smile.gif

Here's one from today's Fashion Show by Polo Haus

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For more images, please refer to the album. Fashion Show: Polo Haus

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not sure your intention, its too warm to my liking. i still prefer pure white (balanced)

zstan: this is your first and also final warning, dont bully ppl!!! kakakakaka!

QUOTE(moonwalk @ Jul 22 2012, 12:08 AM)
The Underexposure I not sure... my side is okay... maybe,I need use spyder 4 pro calibrate the monitor. About the plain issue.. you have any idea? Because,my photographer from Korea.. He teach us.. picture must plain and simple Clean ,able deliver story. Don't all the object is pulling the attention.
About the last picture... I is purpose out focus it to get the dreamy effect under lightroom 4 postprocesing..
Mind to share about your idea?  icon_question.gif

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Fixed. i rather say, a photo must be 'clean', rather then Plain and Simple, because Plain just show boring, and Simple show laziness. Clean show perfectionist. but its my humble opinion, maybe you prefer your korean's teacher's quote.

QUOTE(Newbieeeeee @ Jul 22 2012, 06:06 PM)
It's okay bro. SOME people in this thread are abit rude I must admit. Just have to get used to it. But afterall it's just a photography forum right. No point getting angry and sad over comments. Just ignore comments you dont feel comfortable with. Hope that helps. smile.gif
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i hope that SOMEONE is not me sweat.gif

michael9413: your street 'begger' photo are... ermmm... errrr.... ahhh... i cant find the word for it...... and...... sadly, (assuming) you werent with the sony alpha convention 2011. there is this one street master (which i missed his talk too) were talking about "3 Later Deep" inception style photography... and i bet this will trigger back many of members here to the idealogy of street photography, as it seem, few of our senior member also slowly have this "3 Layer Deep" slowly forgotten. lets see anyone who attended the workshop would be nice enough to 'share' again what was taught in this 'street master' class. (i kinda forgot who taught this 3 Later Deep concept)

evankeat, is that liew?

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hello, i am edpaul. i am new here, and this is my 10th post in LYN and first post in this Sony Alpha Thread V58 thread. i just brought a 2nd A300 from ieR 2 month ago. he taught some basic and here are my pictures. please C&C
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A300+50mm, setting F2, 1/8, iso400
a landscape photography i learn from Master of Landscape, ieR... he also teach me, Photograph Landscape no necessarily requires Ultra Wide Angle so u can capture all Everything (opposite of Plain) and Complicated (opposite of Simple)... you can also use a 50mm short tele prime to capture great plain and simple landscape. and SSS make handheld shot with prime lens possible.

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A300+50mm, setting F4, 2 sec, iso400
a conceptual fashion commercial art photography i learn from on-shoe Flash Master, ieR... he taught me that, you dont need photoshop or camera feature to capture a double exposure photo like this... you can do it with one shutter release. all you need is to know the timing of your on-shoe flash.

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A300+50mm, setting F1.4, 1/15, iso1600
a low light photography i learn from Master of Low Light, ieR... he also teach me, photograph noise are very beautiful.

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A300+50mm, setting F1.4, 1/80, iso100
a illusion photography i learn from the Master of Illusion Photo, ieR... he also teach me, photography are is how you define the impossible... like how i have to split the camera half to allow the fence to go through...

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A300+50mm, F1.4, 1/60, iso1600 + F58 and F43
a low light+strobist+bokehmon photography i learn from the Master of LowLight, Flash, and Bokehmon ieR!... he also teach me, photography is about balancing Ambient Light with Flash to look as natural as possible... and max out the bokeh effect. and never use a dirty/dusty lens!

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A300+50mm, F8, 1/320, iso100
a Moon shot photography i learn from the master of Astrology ieR.... he also teach me, moon no necessarily be shot at night... morning also can!

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A300+50mm, F2, 1/80, iso400
Wedding photography i learn from Retired Wedding Photographer(who no longer shoot wedding) ieR... he teaches me that we dont need photoshop or instagram to create photo like this. you need to know your surrounding.

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A300+50mm, F4, 1/160, iso100
Conceptual Photography i learn from Master of Conceptual Art, ieR... he taught me that, even conceptual art sometimes requires a little human touch.

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A300+50mm, F1.4, 1/30, iso1600.
Commercial Shot for MNG i tag along Master of Fashion and Commercial Shooter, ieR.... he taught me.... err nothing that day. but i dont mind... at least i get to know this model, she is now Miss FaceShop Korea 2012, and now Representative, Ambassador, and inhouse Model of theFaceShop Korea... w00t!

10. https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphoto...788590007_o.jpg
A300+50mm, F5.6, 1/160, iso100
a Studio style photoshoot i learn from the Studio Master, ieR... he says, if you cant bring the beach to the studio, then u bring the studio to the beach

Please C&C my photo... i wan to learn to shoot better like Master ieR! oh wait.... maybe i'll just ask ieR to comment only, u guy dont comment okay? else i will use all his teaching to defend my photo! especially from William, i dont like you, you are very mean and rude!... ok, william, here is a peace offering...
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oh and lastly, this is the photo of me with my buddy Gary... sadly i not sure where i misplace my whole set of photo during zack's birthday party
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taken with A300+50mm. kinda forgot the setting, since it was taken by a friend with my A300.
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^ Fuuuuuuuuuh. Awesome!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif Welcome to the Sony thread, edpaul! whistling.gif


Added on July 23, 2012, 6:52 am
QUOTE(ieR @ Jul 23 2012, 03:03 AM)
yup. i very scare use tamron to shoot family potrait, the corner all will distort "very obviously" i rather use 1855 kit to shoot with less distort, and since family portrait is F8.

and, yea, hence 1650 has its value.
1. get well soon smile.gif
2. great shot! first photo from you that has commercial standard! (tips: add in a tack more of contrast)
3. stick back with sony flash. if cant afford F58, then get F43 as long as u dont jump into big hall event, u are find with F43.
upload to?
(FB auto resize before uploading, so... not bothered)
not sure your intention, its too warm to my liking. i still prefer pure white (balanced)

zstan: this is your first and also final warning, dont bully ppl!!! kakakakaka!
Fixed. i rather say, a photo must be 'clean', rather then Plain and Simple, because Plain just show boring, and Simple show laziness. Clean show perfectionist. but its my humble opinion, maybe you prefer your korean's teacher's quote.
i hope that SOMEONE is not me  sweat.gif

michael9413: your street 'begger' photo are... ermmm... errrr.... ahhh... i cant find the word for it...... and...... sadly, (assuming) you werent with the sony alpha convention 2011. there is this one street master (which i missed his talk too) were talking about "3 Later Deep" inception style photography... and i bet this will trigger back many of members here to the idealogy of street photography, as it seem, few of our senior member also slowly have this "3 Layer Deep" slowly forgotten. lets see anyone who attended the workshop would be nice enough to 'share' again what was taught in this 'street master' class. (i kinda forgot who taught this 3 Later Deep concept)

evankeat, is that liew?
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Of course not you man. You're so nice! smile.gif
And urr, pictures uploaded to photobucket. Took me close to an hour uploading 21 pictures. And I'm using Unifi. rclxub.gif

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Walaooo... This cilaka edpaul... Don't simply use my name and put me on stage eh... Burn down your house then u know!...

Newbie, I think u have no choice but resize your photo before upload. Why not just upload to fb, and link the photo from there? Edpaul photo all link from fb also...
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@ Ed Paul.
I'm liking your personality and picture. I also observing this tread not this few month ago... in facts is 2 years ago.
About your picture from 1 to 10 they all are awesome. I like your Conceptual Arts.

Here are the picture same as you... just I still newbie during I shoots this photo

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Point of view of Conceptual Arts is like your personal "Brand". This image also not happen in few click and settle... Won't won any awards in professional judgement.
so, I will refer back all my Conceptual Arts to my master Patrick Low. He friendly guy... now involve intensively in WPPM industrial. I kindda disappointed him in bring me to WPPM joint them.. I know where I stand... I not ready for any photography as my profession yet. Just,moderate.
Here is the light painting with very low bajet.
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Back to Landscape, I have "Moderate HDR" which obviously not follow exactly what Trey Ratcliff spoons feed me over the video call system. Thanks him change my life with getting expensive "LEE filter,B+W 10 stop" Which accumulate RM1000+ for me.

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@william I no like you... no comment please.


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I bring Garry Friedman Visit Melaka, We exchanging more engineering lesson and shoot like a NASA people.

We same passion in Studies,Hobbies and Music( He play Xaphoon I play professional Saxaphone)


Added on July 23, 2012, 12:31 pm
In photography is very emphasis hobbies...how it related about you
I play intensive Chess. I'm Chess Players for more than 10 years. Currently pickup Shogi( Japanese Chess )
you will see alots of element of Chess in my life instead of taking picture I no into it.
About me about our life.

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@ Ed Paul.
I'm liking your personality and picture. I also observing this tread not this few month ago... in facts is 2 years ago.
About your picture from 1 to 10 they all are awesome. I like your Conceptual Arts.

Here are the picture same as you... just I still newbie during I shoots this photo

user posted image

Point of view of Conceptual Arts is like your personal "Brand". This image also not happen in few click and settle... Won't won any awards in professional judgement.
so, I will refer back all my Conceptual Arts to my master Patrick Low. He friendly guy... now involve intensively in WPPM industrial. I kindda disappointed him in bring me to WPPM joint them.. I know where I stand... I not ready for any photography as my profession yet. Just,moderate.
Here is the light painting with very low bajet.
user posted image

Back to Landscape, I have "Moderate HDR" which obviously not follow exactly what Trey Ratcliff spoons feed me over the video call system. Thanks him change my life with getting expensive "LEE filter,B+W 10 stop" Which accumulate RM1000+ for me.

user posted image

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@william I no like you... no comment please.


Added on July 23, 2012, 12:18 pmuser posted image

I bring Garry Friedman Visit Melaka, We exchanging more engineering lesson and shoot like a NASA people.

We same passion in Studies,Hobbies and Music( He play Xaphoon I play professional Saxaphone)


Added on July 23, 2012, 12:31 pm
In photography is very emphasis hobbies...how it related about you
I play intensive Chess. I'm Chess Players for more than 10 years. Currently pickup Shogi( Japanese Chess )
you will see alots of element of Chess in my life instead of taking picture I no into it.
About me about our life.

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post Jul 23 2012, 12:52 PM

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Might as well add some old pic from last trip to event in Penang.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(moonwalk @ Jul 23 2012, 11:39 AM)
@ Ed Paul.
I'm liking your personality and picture. I also observing this tread not this few month ago... in facts is 2 years ago.
About your picture from 1 to 10 they all are awesome. I like your Conceptual Arts.

Here are the picture same as you... just I still newbie during I shoots this photo

user posted image

Point of view of Conceptual Arts is like your personal "Brand". This image also not happen in few click and settle... Won't won any awards in professional judgement.
so, I will refer back all my Conceptual Arts to my master Patrick Low. He friendly guy... now involve intensively in WPPM industrial. I kindda disappointed him in bring me to WPPM joint them.. I know where I stand... I not ready for any photography as my profession yet. Just,moderate.
Here is the light painting with very low bajet.
user posted image

Back to Landscape, I have "Moderate HDR" which obviously not follow exactly what Trey Ratcliff spoons feed me over the video call system. Thanks him change my life with getting expensive "LEE filter,B+W 10 stop" Which accumulate RM1000+ for me.

user posted image

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@william I no like you... no comment please.


Added on July 23, 2012, 12:18 pmuser posted image

I bring Garry Friedman Visit Melaka, We exchanging more engineering lesson and shoot like a NASA people.

We same passion in Studies,Hobbies and Music( He play Xaphoon I play professional Saxaphone)
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if you dont mind, i have some comments.

1. your first photo, is underexposed, not sure its intentionally, or a mistake. it show neither day or night/dawn, hence it convey a half message, and imcomplete photo.

2. but then, many professional attain ARPS, RPS and/or Saloon certificate by submitting Conceptual Photo for their exam papers. Steve Chong (a local photographer who came out books, Ying Yang, Sigma endorsed photographer) famous landscape photographer (support local photographer please~ tongue.gif) also uses conceptual photo for his professional cert exam.

3. normally, other photographer will just shoot your 'chinese chest conceptual art photo' (not sure it was conceptual art or u just wanna show 'light painting technique')
its badly executed. seriously bad. there are countless mistake could be found (as exam are using deduction system).
my comments are,
i) try to fix the WB, your cool WB is not really portraying any emotion of 'intelligent in strategy' nor 'war-cry'... it felt sleepy.
ii) you messy arrangement (some chess piece facing backwards sidewards etc, ) show weakness, it show a 'messy' management of a 'commander'... come'on even old man in the park arrange their chess piece nicely before play! and commander also can be refer as you, you did not put any effort to create a photo(or winning the war!).
iii) light painting (i guess its a torchlight), are messy... here large spot, there small spot, making it, well, maybe, perfectly imperfect... or imperfectly perfect. whichever u prefer. it doesnt create any dramatic feel, as the purpose of 'lighting' in conception art.

try putting more thought into a photography before shooting. it is exactly how other photographer like william or kysham will say, its just like a snapshot even my little girl can shoot better.

4) william is a great teacher, because he doesnt beat around the bush to get to the point. he may be harsh, but the harsher, the faster and stronger u grow. you said u dont like people pusing pusing or faking in commets... bear with him. if u meet him in real life, trust me, u cant stop laughing with him from the minute u meet till you say goodbye.

5) u never use Lee, u will Never understand. HDR is ugly to me. it not even 'reality' its a 'digital mumbojumbo crap'. getting the pure 'exposure' from manipulating exposure manually in a single exposure give u true endless satisfaction. and u dont need Lee to get those great photo. Taiwanese, are the PRO with 'black card techniques' with landscape black card cost 20cent only, unlike indonesian where heavily rely on GNDs filters (cokin/lee system), while the orang putih like to use 'digital' HDR(enhance a landscape digitally). but i will agree its personal preference on 'landscape' but digital enhance landscape is always a 'fake/tipu orang' piece of art.

6) i think we have meet before.... maybe not...


Added on July 23, 2012, 1:02 pmahh, your shogi shot are nice...

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i hate you william...now got bingkaipenuh d...hatechu,hatechu,hatechu...

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QUOTE(ieR @ Jul 23 2012, 02:00 PM)
if you dont mind, i have some comments.

1. your first photo, is underexposed, not sure its intentionally, or a mistake.  it show neither day or night/dawn, hence it convey a half message, and imcomplete photo.

2. but then, many professional attain ARPS, RPS and/or Saloon certificate by submitting Conceptual Photo for their exam papers. Steve Chong (a local photographer who came out books, Ying Yang, Sigma endorsed photographer) famous landscape photographer (support local photographer please~ tongue.gif) also uses conceptual photo for his professional cert exam.

3. normally, other photographer will just shoot your 'chinese chest conceptual art photo' (not sure it was conceptual art or u just wanna show 'light painting technique')
its badly executed. seriously bad. there are countless mistake could be found (as exam are using deduction system).
my comments are,
i) try to fix the WB, your cool WB is not really portraying any emotion of 'intelligent in strategy' nor 'war-cry'... it felt sleepy.
ii) you messy arrangement (some chess piece facing backwards sidewards etc, ) show weakness, it show a 'messy' management of a 'commander'... come'on even old man in the park arrange their chess piece nicely before play! and commander also can be refer as you, you did not put any effort to create a photo(or winning the war!).
iii) light painting (i guess its a torchlight), are messy... here large spot, there small spot, making it, well, maybe, perfectly imperfect... or imperfectly perfect. whichever u prefer. it doesnt create any dramatic feel, as the purpose of 'lighting' in conception art.

try putting more thought into a photography before shooting. it is exactly how other photographer like william or kysham will say, its just like a snapshot even my little girl can shoot better.

4) william is a great teacher, because he doesnt beat around the bush to get to the point. he may be harsh, but the harsher, the faster and stronger u grow. you said u dont like people pusing pusing or faking in commets... bear with him. if u meet him in real life, trust me, u cant stop laughing with him from the minute u meet till you say goodbye.

5) u never use Lee, u will Never understand. HDR is ugly to me. it not even 'reality' its a 'digital mumbojumbo crap'. getting the pure 'exposure' from manipulating exposure manually in a single exposure give u true endless satisfaction. and u dont need Lee to get those great photo. Taiwanese, are the PRO with 'black card techniques' with landscape black card cost 20cent only, unlike indonesian where heavily rely on GNDs filters (cokin/lee system), while the orang putih like to use 'digital' HDR(enhance a landscape digitally). but i will agree its personal preference on 'landscape' but digital enhance landscape is always a 'fake/tipu orang' piece of art.

6) i think we have meet before.... maybe not...


Added on July 23, 2012, 1:02 pmahh, your shogi shot are nice...
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I don't mind helpful and solid with knowledge comment instead of harshness with 3 words "Go and shoots" this is not an ethical photographer maybe for me. How his convince reader in his various blog such as F1.4 and bla bla bla.. I suddenly change my mind. He not a ethical photographer after he say bang the wall... "Angry forum people" why I shall speak talk with them? Show me he is certified awards winner Period. MPA,UK and bla bla bla... He will not be any professional photographer. HONEST

About Conceptual photographer.. Honest to tell... there are long road for me. All about is planning... that everyone agree that.

The Chinese Chess, I paint with touch lights.. yup is with purpose of light arts... since,my camera don't have multiple exposure. I have to use 1 go...
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which I ever think like what you think. BAD case.... I really no idea to make it perfects. Period... still mysteries for me.

I use LEE,B+W,IR and GND of course I know they are very good. B+W 10 stops will also have colour cast issue.. therefore, I will decision wanting it or not.

HDR!!! Never speak with my sifu. KEDA.Z he very anti people say he using HDR in his arts.. I know him. Therefore, I stop at HDR only for LANDSCAPE purpose.
Black Cards.. I only get info from friend.. Never hand on experiences on that. FAKE/TIPU piece of arts..REAL HDR from orang putih... They teach me Natural HDR.. not that POPPING HDR. .

Support Local photographer? I do support them like KEDA.Z ,Jen Siow, My University seniorSaiful Nang start his photography with RM50, My favourite Patrick LowI like this guy He explain everything including why he use concept and planning.
I don't like Joe Chan he teach me buy his stuff... where can easily diy with a piece of paper. and many more...

Why not support william??? He say ... shoot like a small gurl is not photography. where, I know a person guru call David Chua . I love his photograph.... support william???
I dunnoe... maybe his f1.4 blog need some changes... "Practice as what you preach". I here also not again him...

I not sure we meet before, but... nice to meet up too.. honestly you explain very well.. Sincere person.

The shogi... This shoots is taken with sunlight ray... which only few minutes... I faster get my camera snap it. Not big deal for your complement.. I still thinking view that can bring up the mood... very hard figure out.
Product shoot is like bang... finish.. some stories telling picture indeed proven hard.

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