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> Complain against Silverfire, Help me settle guys :(

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post Aug 2 2012, 11:02 AM

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QUOTE(fatani @ Aug 2 2012, 10:36 AM)
seller should read the terms and conditions of warranties by nikon.

as far as i know, any manufacturer would honour the warranty if the items is faulty because of MANUFACTURING DEFECTS within a period of time. but warranty void if the item became faulty because of USER MISUSE..

it's like u buy a new car..
whatever part of the car that is faulty by manufacturing defects would be covered by warranty. BUT..
If u crash it, do you expect the manufacturer to honour the warranty? common sense..

same case with this lense..
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from what i can see, the previous owner of the lens already sent it to Nikon for warranty claim (the lens is still under warranty). but upon further inspection, it was deemed that the lens was damaged to IMPACT DAMAGE (2 missing screws). thus, it VOID the warranty. manufacturer is not going to fix the lens since it is damage due to the carelessness of the previous owner. it is not a manufacturing defect.

previous owner might have lied to Silverfire regarding this whole thing, saying its still under warranty etc. Silverfire got the lens, and resold it to Izwan WITH/WITHOUT knowing the actual condition of the lens.

then the lens started having problems, Izwan sent it to Nikon for warranty claim since seller said the lens is still under warranty (7 more months). then it was revealed by Nikon that the same lens already been sent for warranty claim before. (same serial no of the lens, same problem with the missing screws).

so its pretty clear that the lens Seller sold to Izwan was already problematic in the first place. so Izwan ask for a refund. smile.gif

p/s: seriously, i LOL'ed when seller said Izwan might have bought another lens to try and frame him. that is just a baseless accusations. its like the other forumer here said, you're digging your own grave Silverfire. you're selling a defect item in the first place, don't you think that you're obligated to refund TS?

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post Aug 2 2012, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 2 2012, 09:51 AM)
Then he should simply make a report, and when it comes back with nothing, I demand a public apology from Izwan. Along with that apology he will have to go back to tell police to tell them his mistake else I would report him for defamation and attempt of fraud.
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Cool rclxms.gif Report TS for defamation and attempt of fraud? LOL

So you friend came back to you and said that the lens isn't the original lens? because the serial number is incorrect?

You got take note on the serial number when you sell it? Your friend got the original receipt with serial number?

*I demand this case to be shared with the public if Seller found guilty, attached with photos of him. Let him famous tongue.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 11:22 AM

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Ts, how u know it's demo unit?

by receipt right? the receipt got list out the serial no. of the lens?


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post Aug 2 2012, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(SeaMonster @ Aug 2 2012, 11:22 AM)
Ts, how u know it's demo unit?

by receipt right? the receipt got list out the serial no. of the lens?
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Yeap by receipt...the receipt didn't have serial number but the warranty card does...

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post Aug 2 2012, 12:08 PM

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Make a tribunal Claim
i am sure you will get back your money.

with receipt and warranty card and Nikon letter.
i am sure you will get back your money.



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post Aug 2 2012, 12:12 PM

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As long as there's no name on the first report, this is going no where.
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 2 2012, 12:12 PM)
As long as there's no name on the first report, this is going no where.
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It's ok...I will make sure your name and business here go down the drain... whistling.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:16 PM)
It's ok...I will make sure your name and business here go down the drain... whistling.gif
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That is if my name is on that report. whistling.gif

You know, why bother? You can't prove its the lens I sold you, heck I can't even relate this lens to the first owner, unless of course the report has a name doh.gif

This post has been edited by Silverfire: Aug 2 2012, 12:19 PM
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 2 2012, 12:12 PM)
As long as there's no name on the first report, this is going no where.
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I see where this is going, when TS comes back with full info, you will just lash out and say, that's not my friend who sold me the lens so obviously TS changed another lens or probably fabricated the report from Nikon and then the case delays again and as usual you will need the 7 days to do your own investigation and demand more proof,

As we can see here, every piece of evidence presented you will find the loophole and go around it. You did well but to be a smartass, you have to outsmart yourself first.


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post Aug 2 2012, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(812799 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:23 PM)
I see where this is going, when TS comes back with full info, you will just lash out and say, that's not my friend who sold me the lens so obviously TS changed another lens or probably fabricated the report from Nikon and then the case delays again and as usual you will need the 7 days to do your own investigation and demand more proof,

As we can see here, every piece of evidence presented you will find the loophole and go around it. You did well but to be a smartass, you have to outsmart yourself first.
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What a brows.gif

If that's indeed the name of the first owner, who wouldn't in the right mind to request a refund from him? doh.gif I wonder why people have such twisted mindset.


This post has been edited by Silverfire: Aug 2 2012, 12:25 PM
Izwan898
post Aug 2 2012, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 2 2012, 12:18 PM)
That is if my name is on that report. whistling.gif

You know, why bother? You can't prove its the lens I sold you, heck I can't even relate this lens to the first owner, unless of course the report has a name doh.gif
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LOL our conversations in LYN PM already sufficient for the police as proof that u sold the lens to me...lol...so funny...is that all u got?
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(Izwan898 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:27 PM)
LOL our conversations in LYN PM already sufficient for the police as proof that u sold the lens to me...lol...so funny...is that all u got?
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Is the serial number mentioned anywhere? Is that all you got? icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 2 2012, 11:00 AM)
I've been keeping my mouth shut this whole time, but it's time for me to say something.
Silverfire, you didn't change at all since your previous case with casperito, you still doesn't want to accept your responsibility & you always want to run away.

As the previous case, you didn't want to be responsible eventhough you're the one who opened the sales thread.
And now, with all this hard proof that the item you sold is faulty from the start, again you're running from your responsiblity and telling people this guy changed the lens.

Yes, I've read this whole thread since the 1st post.
And you clearly haven't changed at all.

I don't know what's running in your head, but you're making other user posted image look irresponsible.
You don't deserve that tag.
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Agree with shawty ... i've already read from first page and with this kind of attitude, seller really doesn't deserve Safe Trader tag .. I hope Admin would consider to remove the tag from seller .. TQ
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:32 PM

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Loss of RM700 compared to loss of name and dignity in public....is...nothing.... thumbup.gif
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Aug 2 2012, 11:00 AM)
I've been keeping my mouth shut this whole time, but it's time for me to say something.
Silverfire, you didn't change at all since your previous case with casperito, you still doesn't want to accept your responsibility & you always want to run away.

As the previous case, you didn't want to be responsible eventhough you're the one who opened the sales thread.
And now, with all this hard proof that the item you sold is faulty from the start, again you're running from your responsiblity and telling people this guy changed the lens.

Yes, I've read this whole thread since the 1st post.
And you clearly haven't changed at all.

I don't know what's running in your head, but you're making other user posted image look irresponsible.
You don't deserve that tag.
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Wow hadn't noticed your reply. Just saw it after someone quoted it.

Well with that attitude and assumptions from buyer, bravo to you if you can cope with it.

What proofs are there? Let us revise:
  • I sold TS a Nikkor AF 50mm f/1.4D
  • Lens break down after ~50 days
  • No serial number was mentioned or requested
  • A prior service invoice that has no name but with valid warranty
I request a complete invoice with name, and now I'm the snaking ******* who tries to worm out of my way?

This post has been edited by Silverfire: Aug 2 2012, 12:35 PM
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 2 2012, 12:18 PM)
That is if my name is on that report. whistling.gif

You know, why bother? You can't prove its the lens I sold you, heck I can't even relate this lens to the first owner, unless of course the report has a name doh.gif
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i bet no one will deal with u after read ur statement above..huhu..unless that person very naive to deal with u...


Added on August 2, 2012, 12:44 pm
QUOTE(Silverfire @ Aug 2 2012, 12:34 PM)
Wow hadn't noticed your reply. Just saw it after someone quoted it.

Well with that attitude and assumptions from buyer, bravo to you if you can cope with it.

What proofs are there? Let us revise:


  • I sold TS a Nikkor AF 50mm f/1.4D

  • Lens break down after ~50 days

  • No serial number was mentioned or requested

  • A prior service invoice that has no name but with valid warranty

I request a complete invoice with name, and now I'm the snaking ******* who tries to worm out of my way?
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u dun have the lens serial number sold to izwan? i bet u have and the serial absolutely same..huhuh..why request proof that u already have...failure with warranty void reason now asking for serial number and name ..huhuhu..u r very smartass....but the more smart u want to be the more stupid u look...i bet u will be gud politician.. rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

This post has been edited by kazibul: Aug 2 2012, 12:48 PM
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:46 PM

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I think to end this, both party will need to make a list what they want from other party in order for him/her to cooperate.

Silverfire want :

1. Invoice with name ( if not mistaken)
2.
3.
..
..

Ts want :

1.
2.
3.
..
..


If all the request from each side had been completely fulfilled by each other, then this case will end in no time.
But that will only works if both parties want to end this by not dragging this matter any further.

Just my 2 cent.


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post Aug 2 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(mr.flamed @ Aug 2 2012, 12:46 PM)
I think to end this, both party will need to make a list what they want from other party in order for him/her to cooperate.

Silverfire want :

1. Invoice with name ( if not mistaken)
2.
3.
..
..

Ts want :

1.
2.
3.
..
..
If all the request from each side had been completely fulfilled by each other, then this case will end in no time.
But that will only works if both parties want to end this by not dragging this matter any further.

Just my 2 cent.
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No need laa...for sure cannot solve here...let the police handle...
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(kazibul @ Aug 2 2012, 12:41 PM)
i bet no one will deal with u after read ur statement above..huhu..unless that person very naive to deal with u...


Added on August 2, 2012, 12:44 pm

u dun have the lens serial number sold to izwan? i bet u have and the serial absolutely same..huhuh..why request proof that u already have...failure with warranty void reason now asking  for serial number and name ..huhuhu..u r very smartass....but the more smart u want to be the more stupid u look...i bet u will be gud politician.. rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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Sadly I do not keep a record of lens serial number notworthy.gif

QUOTE(mr.flamed @ Aug 2 2012, 12:46 PM)
I think to end this, both party will need to make a list what they want from other party in order for him/her to cooperate.

Silverfire want :

1. Invoice with name ( if not mistaken)
2.
3.
..
..

Ts want :

1.
2.
3.
..
..
If all the request from each side had been completely fulfilled by each other, then this case will end in no time.
But that will only works if both parties want to end this by not dragging this matter any further.

Just my 2 cent.
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Well this will work.

I want:
  1. Previous service invoice with name
Izwan wants:
  1. Never consistent since page 1


This post has been edited by Silverfire: Aug 2 2012, 12:50 PM
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(mr.flamed @ Aug 2 2012, 12:46 PM)
I think to end this, both party will need to make a list what they want from other party in order for him/her to cooperate.

Silverfire want :

1. Invoice with name ( if not mistaken)
2.
3.
..
..

Ts want :

1.
2.
3.
..
..
If all the request from each side had been completely fulfilled by each other, then this case will end in no time.
But that will only works if both parties want to end this by not dragging this matter any further.

Just my 2 cent.
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this cheater silverfire clearly dun want refund..let say if got invoice with name the he want more proof..huhuhu..this argument no ending coz...

silverfire a.k.a cheater want :-

-NO REFUND-

TS want :

REFUND

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