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monaz
post Sep 13 2012, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Sep 13 2012, 11:50 AM)
excuse myself for lack of technical knowledge on bikes.. still learning laugh.gif

just wanna check.. let's say u mod ur exhaust system to a slip-on aftermarket exhaust like Two-Brothers, so what i understand is due to that when u change ur exhaust to an aftermarket slip on especially those good ones like two brothers, akrapovic, yoshimura and so on.. it will tend to increase ur horsepower by 1 or 2hp more..

is it actually necessary to map ur bike with a power commander so as that ur bike will allow smoother fuel adjustment and maximise the use of ur newly slipped on exhaust system?

or is it advisable to install a power commander for it?

pls advise, thinking of replacing my current leo-vince slip on which is already attached when i got my bike with probably a two-brothers biggrin.gif
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Leo Vince - U already have among the best aftermarket exhaust esp the SBK series. rclxms.gif

Slips on doesn’t do much on gaining horsepower. Restriction on the exhaust system (like EXUP servo on R1) must be eliminated. That’s why full system is required. Removing stock exhaust system may trigger check engine light depending on your bike model. Check carefully your bike system.

ECU need to read what you have on your bike. You MUST have like Bazzaz or Dynojet. Get the correct map or even better a custom map and check on dyno how much your hp increased.
If I were you, check if you can get the LV header for the exhaust, replace the stock header, re-use your slips on, get aftermarket filter then get PC or Bazzaz. An additional, dump in velocity stacks. Im not skeptical but should be around 5hp. sweat.gif

If you prefer that Two Brothers, they come with Juice Box as an option. For me, 1 time invest on full system will make you happy all the time. LV or Akra for me.
Happy modding bro. biggrin.gif


Added on September 13, 2012, 2:15 pm
QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 13 2012, 12:52 PM)
in addition to icecold question, i too would like to know from sifu here who has replaced their stock exhaust a very important question

How BAD (or IMPROVED?) is your fuel consumption after replacing the stock exhaust? I noticed that apart from better and louder noise (duh!) and horse power increment (due to unrestricted flow) and also weight saving, some people complained about worsening FC. is this true? makes me think twice to replace my stock, yet silent  wub.gif exhaust
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Bro Lucifah.. fuel consumption shall not be the issue to think about in getting more ummph of your bike. Im sorry but this is my answer. Maybe others can help.
My full tank 18 liter petrol will only go below 200km distance. I just really want to enjoy on what I did on my lovely machine.

Safe ride always bro biggrin.gif


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post Sep 13 2012, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(monaz @ Sep 13 2012, 02:13 PM)
Leo Vince - U already have among the best aftermarket exhaust esp the SBK series.  rclxms.gif

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Safe ride always bro  biggrin.gif
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im not too sure whether my current LV is the SBK series or not.. it does sounds good, but a lil bit too quiet for an aftermarket exhaust sweat.gif

LOUD PIPES SAVES LIVES

what do u mean by checking the bike system? whether how digital is it?

header means the one that usually comes with the full system? any markets out there actually selling headers only? hahaha.. darn u make me itchy wanna try full system.. but one thing im worried about here is that the competency of the mechanics here.. in which how competent are they to actually mod a full system on my bike, and map my bike on a dynojet PC rclxub.gif

maybe can get my contacts from thailand and get them mod it for me thumbup.gif or just drive down to the nearest cambodia-thailand border (cant rmb which border my thai fren is located at d laugh.gif )

Akra.. every bikers dream exhaust i could say haha.. its nice to own one too but saw it online only a Akra slip on cost about US$700++ doh.gif full system akra US$2000++ holy mother of god!!

on fuel consumption, after u install slip-on, it does affect the FC, thus the PC is best to be paired and it can helps improving the FC coz u get to do some fuel adjustment on the PC.. correct me if im wrong tongue.gif
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post Sep 13 2012, 04:09 PM

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I heard you only need to retune if you change the whole exhaust because the flow is now totally different from stock.

loud pipes can save lives, but I'm not sure if it can save your bike from angry neighbours.
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post Sep 13 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Sep 13 2012, 02:47 PM)
im not too sure whether my current LV is the SBK series or not.. it does sounds good, but a lil bit too quiet for an aftermarket exhaust sweat.gif

LOUD PIPES SAVES LIVES

what do u mean by checking the bike system? whether how digital is it?

header means the one that usually comes with the full system? any markets out there actually selling headers only? hahaha.. darn u make me itchy wanna try full system.. but one thing im worried about here is that the competency of the mechanics here.. in which how competent are they to actually mod a full system on my bike, and map my bike on a dynojet PC rclxub.gif

maybe can get my contacts from thailand and get them mod it for me thumbup.gif or just drive down to the nearest cambodia-thailand border (cant rmb which border my thai fren is located at d laugh.gif )

Akra.. every bikers dream exhaust i could say haha.. its nice to own one too but saw it online only a Akra slip on cost about US$700++ doh.gif full system akra US$2000++ holy mother of god!!

on fuel consumption, after u install slip-on, it does affect the FC, thus the PC is best to be paired and it can helps improving the FC coz u get to do some fuel adjustment on the PC.. correct me if im wrong tongue.gif
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Like Yamaha R1/R6, the servo on the exhaust is connected to ECU. Once removed, you need to fool the ECU about the missing servo, thus necessary to install servo eliminator plug or DIY if you can. On your bike, check the service manual on parts that you going to dismantle in removing stock exhaust.

Yeah header normally come in full set of exhaust system. Just check if you can find header section of your bike model but as you said, Loud Pipes Saves Lives, get that full system.

PC setup need no competent mechanics. It is designed bikers friendly. Just download the necessary map, connect your laptop, upload the map and voila..
If you cannot find the required map with what you have, you can always send them email with details of your mod and they will provide you the nearest suitable map.

Unless you are thinking about adjusting your fuel curve, individual cylinder adjustment or setting the throttle position, u need pro tuner to do this.
Check your cans if the silencer removed or not. I removed both cool.gif


Added on September 13, 2012, 4:35 pm
QUOTE(sanosizo @ Sep 13 2012, 04:09 PM)
I heard you only need to retune if you change the whole exhaust because the flow is now totally different from stock.

loud pipes can save lives, but I'm not sure if it can save your bike from angry neighbours.
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Absolutely. Still restriction unless going full system. And wait for your neighbor HD sounds

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post Sep 13 2012, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(monaz @ Sep 13 2012, 04:31 PM)
Like Yamaha R1/R6, the servo on the exhaust is connected to ECU. Once removed, you need to fool the ECU about the missing servo, thus necessary to install servo eliminator plug or DIY if you can. On your bike, check the service manual on parts that you going to dismantle in removing stock exhaust.

Yeah header normally come in full set of exhaust system. Just check if you can find header section of your bike model but as you said, Loud Pipes Saves Lives, get that full system.

PC setup need no competent mechanics. It is designed bikers friendly. Just download the necessary map, connect your laptop, upload the map and voila..
If you cannot find the required map with what you have, you can always send them email with details of your mod and they will provide you the nearest suitable map.

Unless you are thinking about adjusting your fuel curve, individual cylinder adjustment or setting the throttle position, u need pro tuner to do this.
Check your cans if the silencer removed or not. I removed both  cool.gif


Added on September 13, 2012, 4:35 pm

Absolutely. Still restriction unless going full system. And wait for your neighbor HD sounds
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oh never know that PC is so easy to map haha.. problem is with the competency in installing full system.. i dont wanna risk my bike blowing up half way laugh.gif the downside here in cambodia is that lack of professional mechanics.. whoever has friend that is bike savvy can consider coming here to set up a professional workshop thumbup.gif number of sportsbike and harleys are growing here.. although not as much as msia but can see the increasing numbers of big bikes here..

maybe i shud check whether my silencer is removed or not brows.gif will get the full system is butt itchy..

by the way bro monaz, for the header, is it necessary that i get back a LV header to pair it with my LV slip-on?
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post Sep 13 2012, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Sep 13 2012, 05:40 PM)
oh never know that PC is so easy to map haha.. problem is with the competency in installing full system.. i dont wanna risk my bike blowing up half way laugh.gif the downside here in cambodia is that lack of professional mechanics.. whoever has friend that is bike savvy can consider coming here to set up a professional workshop thumbup.gif number of sportsbike and harleys are growing here.. although not as much as msia but can see the increasing numbers of big bikes here..

maybe i shud check whether my silencer is removed or not brows.gif will get the full system is butt itchy..

by the way bro monaz, for the header, is it necessary that i get back a LV header to pair it with my LV slip-on?
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Necessary if you want to full utilize the map for a set of exhaust system. Different header with different mid pipe and end canister? shakehead.gif

If you buy a full system for a specific bike, normally not much chaos for installation. Normally no mounting bracket modification. As easy as slips on. Only need tools like torque wrench with long extension, spring puller and some other basic tools
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post Sep 13 2012, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(monaz @ Sep 13 2012, 06:26 PM)
Necessary if you want to full utilize the map for a set of exhaust system. Different header with different mid pipe and end canister?  shakehead.gif

If you buy a full system for a specific bike, normally not much chaos for installation. Normally no mounting bracket modification. As easy as slips on. Only need tools like torque wrench with long extension, spring puller and some other basic tools
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now you mentioned it, why do i see many full system exhaust pipe has springs on them??
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post Sep 13 2012, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(monaz @ Sep 13 2012, 06:26 PM)
Necessary if you want to full utilize the map for a set of exhaust system. Different header with different mid pipe and end canister?  shakehead.gif

If you buy a full system for a specific bike, normally not much chaos for installation. Normally no mounting bracket modification. As easy as slips on. Only need tools like torque wrench with long extension, spring puller and some other basic tools
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Bro monaz, u're bike is using LV full system or just slip on?
My bike comes with a Micron Slip On when i bought it, and still on stock Y pipe and headers
Last 2 days 2 of my friends which is on a Z1000SX and a Suzuki K1 750 changed their exhaust, an Akrapovic and Yoshimura slip on respectively

On the Z1000SX the Akra sounds a bit bassy since the stock catalyzer can't be removed because it has been weldedd together with the header
The Suzy however is very loud and had the best exhaust note so far
Now i felt thet my bike sound is not that loud LOL
So i was thinking of installing an Akra Y pipe but maintaining the stock header ( can't afford full syste
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Do i need to put PC in it? I just wanna improve the sound because i'm not a hardcore rider who push the bike to the limit..anyway i still didnt know what the function of an EXUP servo tongue.gif
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post Sep 13 2012, 09:46 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Sep 13 2012, 09:40 PM)
Yes you need to re-tune your bike once the catalytic converter has been removed, Y pipe is basically a free flowing exhaust...

You can install the Y pipe and still ride your bike but it will run like crap lol, and lean! for long term it will cause engine damage..

Remove the catalytic converter? hell yeah!  thumbup.gif
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Mine is full system LV SBK Evo II, titanium cans and CF end caps biggrin.gif


Added on September 13, 2012, 9:47 pm
QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 13 2012, 07:29 PM)
now you mentioned it, why do i see many full system exhaust pipe has springs on them??
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Because they have few joints in 1 system. And it is hard to install a single length of bended exhaust system without a joint. Not to say about welding or clamping in very tight area between the bike chassis.

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post Sep 13 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(T600 @ Sep 13 2012, 09:40 PM)
Yes you need to re-tune your bike once the catalytic converter has been removed, Y pipe is basically a free flowing exhaust...

You can install the Y pipe and still ride your bike but it will run like crap lol, and lean! for long term it will cause engine damage..

Remove the catalytic converter? hell yeah!  thumbup.gif
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So that means i need PC too right? If i remove the cat will the engine check light lit up?
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heard of this Benelli Keeway brand.. looks good.. and cheap

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post Sep 14 2012, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(monaz @ Sep 13 2012, 06:26 PM)
Necessary if you want to full utilize the map for a set of exhaust system. Different header with different mid pipe and end canister?  shakehead.gif

If you buy a full system for a specific bike, normally not much chaos for installation. Normally no mounting bracket modification. As easy as slips on. Only need tools like torque wrench with long extension, spring puller and some other basic tools
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haha i think its quite hard if just looking to buy a LV header for my 2004 CBR1000RR rite?

afraid that end up hv to buy the usual full system package which includes the exhaust and sell off my current LV slip on..

really hv no idea what is needed to install a full system laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(Calvin789 @ Sep 14 2012, 11:14 AM)
heard of this Benelli Keeway brand.. looks good.. and cheap

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aanother china-brand-bukit-beruntung-assembled bikes with pirelli tyres

benelli has been bought by a china company for almost a decade now.

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post Sep 14 2012, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 14 2012, 02:57 PM)
aanother china-brand-bukit-beruntung-assembled bikes with pirelli tyres

benelli has been bought by a china company for almost a decade now.

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its cheap tongue.gif
what about the quality ??
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post Sep 15 2012, 10:40 AM

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anyone tried before carrying ur full face helmet inside a bagpack and carried it onto a plane? will they actually allow helmet inside a plane? wanna bring back my Shoei and sell haha..
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post Sep 15 2012, 11:18 AM

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Followed my dad last week when he service his Versys 1000 and there is one bike caught my attention. Try to guess what bike is it.


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QUOTE(ewan8811 @ Sep 15 2012, 11:18 AM)
Followed my dad last week when he service his Versys 1000 and there is one bike caught my attention. Try to guess what bike is it.
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Looks like MV Augusta
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QUOTE(ewan8811 @ Sep 15 2012, 11:18 AM)
Followed my dad last week when he service his Versys 1000 and there is one bike caught my attention. Try to guess what bike is it.
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agusta f4 1000s, must be a brunei bike eh

if in malaysia, this one easily cost more than 1199 panigale


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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ Sep 13 2012, 10:58 PM)
So that means i need PC too right? If i remove the cat will the engine check light lit up?
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For cat, I dont think so it will pop out but Im very sure for EXUP removal


Added on September 15, 2012, 1:41 pm
QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Sep 14 2012, 02:32 PM)
haha i think its quite hard if just looking to buy a LV header for my 2004 CBR1000RR rite?

afraid that end up hv to buy the usual full system package which includes the exhaust and sell off my current LV slip on..

really hv no idea what is needed to install a full system laugh.gif
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Unless you go like GP style, undertail like yours is a plug and play icon_rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(lucifah @ Sep 14 2012, 02:57 PM)
aanother china-brand-bukit-beruntung-assembled bikes with pirelli tyres

benelli has been bought by a china company for almost a decade now.

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They manufacture Pirelli too? rclxub.gif


Added on September 15, 2012, 1:45 pm
QUOTE(icecolddamncold @ Sep 15 2012, 10:40 AM)
anyone tried before carrying ur full face helmet inside a bagpack and carried it onto a plane? will they actually allow helmet inside a plane? wanna bring back my Shoei and sell haha..
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I checked in mine before. But i saw at the airport some guys hand carry. Check with your airlines.


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QUOTE(geekmy @ Sep 15 2012, 11:23 AM)
Looks like MV Augusta
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With that kind of tire? shakehead.gif

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guys,
wanna ask
other than mudah is there any other website that sells 2nd hand bike?

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