actually wrong, sweeping winds take account of crit AND atkspeed.
you can crit your sweeping wind hits, and you most certainly have faster sweeping wind dmg ticks with faster attack speed.

the same may apply on offensive skills too (higher crit chance on wave of light, and higher crit dmg from a critted wave of light. however yes attack speed wont have effect on this.)

feel free you play around sweeping winds using a slow 2 hander, and 2x fast dual wielding daggers

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Added on August 14, 2012, 4:29 pmyou just need to crit to spawn a tornado from cyclone runed sweeping wind.

in other words, deadly reach against 10 mobs at the same time, would spawn 10 tornados assuming you crit on all 10 mobs

like wise FoT, hitting faster, chance to produce more crits goes up as there are more hits being landed, thus more tornados

This post has been edited by Quazacolt: Aug 14 2012, 04:29 PM

omai~ thanks for correcting me..

you're welcome.
you can attribute to lame archon wiz and their hunger for IAS prior to IAS nerf

also i think you can see now why IAS was such as overpowered stat to warrant a global nerf

imagine:
insane atk speed, more LoH, more tornados all over the place, sweeping spam ticking your screen...
(see why regardless of the nerf, almost all high end/end game dps monks are using sweeping wind + cyclone)

which prompted me to comment on your lack of sweeping wind from your build

i _want_ to believe there are other viable build other than crit / sweeping wind... crit stuff are just too expensive...

i... said the same thing every day prior to inferno.
inferno crushed that very notion and i just run cookie cutter builds now

Sadly I've been using FoT since I unlocked it =/ other skills sadly not as good/effective as FoT

yes im comparing FoT with FoT not another primary attack skill
so the reason that my friend is spawning tornados at the same rate as me (duel weld) vs me (1axe + 1shield) is purely because of attack speed right?

but im curious about about ALeUNe's statement that i've bolded. how is it possible to spawn 5 tornados in 4 hits (with sweeping wind charged up) with a 1.2 atk speed spear with around 20% chc?

so in my case im using an axe (1.3 attack speed) with 41% chc, should i spawn approx. double that amount of tornados?

or am i missing something?

your 6% crit chance is not that huge compared to your friend dual-wielding fists that are 1.4 speed, do you have any attack speed on your gear and does your friend have any too?

I am assuming aluene is dualwielding. Difference from a 1.3 attack speed with an axe to a 1.6ish attack speed with dualwielding fists is pretty big, that 6% crit is not a huge factor.

I have aprox. 43% crit or so and I really don't count the amount of tornadoes spawned as there's lots of damage going out and things die too fast to have an estimate

Yup...its call probablity.. or layman term LUCK.

Assuming you have 50% CC...you dont expect 1 crit hit in 2. Its chance..so ....maybe out of 100 hits you will crit 50 times.

However, when you play..the crit chance is reset once you generate a crit...i.e back to 50%. So the next hit will again be a 50% chance and so on.

Alune would have been lucky at that point..when 20% kept hitting...for eg prep backup plan for DH is 30% chance but I have gone 3 times prep yet also no cooldown...so its luck.

Nope. because no matter how fast you hit, it will only generate 1 tornadoes upon a success critical hit on ONE mob. just that you got higher chance to land a critical hit as compare to a 20% cc. FoT's mechanism is that 3rd hit is a small AoE hit thus you can have higher chance to generate more tornadoes.

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Added on August 14, 2012, 5:08 pmThe numbers of tornadoes are limited to how many mobs you are against. Take for an example you vs 5 mob, the max tornadoes generate per hit is 5 no matter how high cc and fast you can do. just that in a period of time you can have a better chance to see more tornadoes. But then mostly the time those mobs will be gg.com


This post has been edited by yuhhaur: Aug 14 2012, 05:08 PM

thanks for the clarification
i dont have any attack speed increase in any of my gear

well, one can never had the world. You want this must sacrifice that. Even with the power of master card also won't let you own the moon. Max ilvl 63 with 6 stats only had that much stats to fits in. if everything also want would it be too cheesy??

inb4 my dream of 2.5k dex 50k hp 100k dps 10k armor 1k ar comes true one day.

i have been saving $ to build my "Lucky 7" monk:

- 70,000 DPS
- 7,000 armour
- 700 resist

Trade Mark! All right reversed...

This post has been edited by cowithgun: Aug 14 2012, 05:21 PM

Ok....gostan..gostan.....back back to your rights...

I could even spawn 3-4 tornadoes with the 1st hit.
As Quazacolt explained, it is a critical hit.
FoT can hit multiple target. If your 1st hit is a critical hit and it hits multiple target, it will spawn few tornadoes.

I couldn't explain it. This is how I did.
Averagely, I can spawn 3-4 tornadoes in 3-4 hits. That is very common.
Beside gear and skill, it depends on how many targets/monsters. If you have more targets to hit, you have more chance to spawn tornadoes.

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Added on August 14, 2012, 5:34 pmWith those stats, you can moonwalk in A3/A4.

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Added on August 14, 2012, 5:37 pmYes, I dual-wield with 2 spears.
Never had a problem to spawn tornadoes.

This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Aug 14 2012, 05:37 PM

things I like the most is when encounter a group of 50ish normal mobs in vault of the assassin, sweeping wind does sweep them in ease

anyone tried with act 3 Scorpio, or any group larger?

Yipee...Summerfist talk about luck..just got on 1st run Act 1 with my monk..

Got a 1 h mace with 920 DPS..57 Dex, 104 Vit and 88% CD..too bad no socket...

Can sell ah..cause I dont like use mace la...slow...if sell how much can go for ah...

Finally found a 1 hander with 900plus DPS

i understand wat ur saying now
i tot ur talking about single monster just now

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