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Unifi Official TM UniFi High Speed Broadband Thread V16, Now with online submission

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izzat80
post Oct 26 2012, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(iCryz @ Oct 26 2012, 12:59 AM)
erm .how can i use use 2 router together? im using TL-WR1043ND now..
can i connect the default router into it and use?
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can.. disable DHCP SERVER on dir615 then connect lan port to lan port of ur tplink
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post Oct 26 2012, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(izzat80 @ Oct 26 2012, 01:18 AM)
can.. disable DHCP SERVER on dir615 then connect lan port to lan port of ur tplink
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how do i disable DPCP server on dir615? sry . newbie smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2012, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(iCryz @ Oct 26 2012, 01:32 AM)
how do i disable DPCP server on dir615? sry . newbie  smile.gif
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dont remember exactly bro not using dir615 anymore. but check SETUP menu after u login
just click CTRL + F on ur keyboard and type DHCP...
then go page by page and search for it until ur browser find it.. then just disable it... smile.gif
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post Oct 26 2012, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(izzat80 @ Oct 26 2012, 01:35 AM)
dont remember exactly bro not using dir615 anymore. but check SETUP menu after u login
just click CTRL + F on ur keyboard and type DHCP...
then go page by page and search for it until ur browser find it.. then just disable it...  smile.gif
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ok . thanks bro smile.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 26 2012, 10:41 AM

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Can dust effect the speed and ping of my UniFi?

Cause my house is under a lil bit of renovation now and the BTU/Modem/Router is exposed to a whole lot of dust...

now speed feel sluggish a bit..
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post Oct 26 2012, 12:20 PM

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Wonder anyone subscribes to auto debit payment to UniFi bill through UniFi portal and get discount RM2?
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post Oct 26 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Oct 25 2012, 03:42 PM)
recently I receive at least 3 calls a week for asking unifi subscription/upgrade, today receive 2 calls in the same day... what is going on man....
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time to upgrade maybe drool.gif
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post Oct 26 2012, 03:46 PM

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Do I really need to get the TV channels?

I don't even have a TV at my place. The Unifi FAQ page made it sound like I need to get a TV or they won't install anything?


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post Oct 26 2012, 03:51 PM

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seem like unifi speed kind of sluggish this 2 days at puchong area..?
izzat80
post Oct 26 2012, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(maru&box @ Oct 26 2012, 03:46 PM)
Do I really need to get the TV channels?

I don't even have a TV at my place. The Unifi FAQ page made it sound like I need to get a TV or they won't install anything?
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i think no need.. anyways... most new PC lcd got hdmi port... if worst case just plug the hypptv box to ur pc monitor and let them setup... then remove after they go
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post Oct 26 2012, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(izzat80 @ Oct 26 2012, 04:06 PM)
i think no need.. anyways... most new PC lcd got hdmi port... if worst case just plug the hypptv box to ur pc monitor and let them setup... then remove after they go
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post Oct 26 2012, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Oct 26 2012, 01:16 AM)
How is this 5->2.5Mbps being measured? A simple way to check GPON layer bandwidth contention would be to just turn on your IPTV. It's multicasted from the OLT and uses 8-10Mbps of downstream traffic so it's probably the best point of reference. If your ONT is only able to hit 2.5Mbps on the Internet VLAN due to GPON bandwidth, your SD + HD channels would not be able to stream at all. Regardless of internet speeds, all ONTs must have 10Mbps + 256Kbps for voice + IPTV traffic at minimum or the effects of packet loss become very obvious.

The Internet speed drops at peak hours is most likely further up at the first hop where there is a significant amount of bandwidth contention.. since there would be Unifi + Streamyx users sharing it.
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You are right on the bandwidth alloted to each user is sufficient enough to service subscriber considering if the number of splits are still decent as recommended by the vendor. There is however more complications to just that consideration alone. IPTV delivery has to be taken with different approach because its multicasted with guaranteed QoS so if supposed the whole splicing ratio is satisfied.

- The internet virtual circuit(VC) return path rate available on your OLT that leads back to concentrators for all users.
- Laser power requirements on each subscriber end
- Individual account speed throttling (not done by the OLT itself which requires massive computation)

It is not safe to assume that a 1.25Gbps rate is sufficient to cater say 32 users boldly by calculating:

1250mbps/32 = 39mbps per user has lots to spare.

Vendors will tell you this general guide:

If your short term plan is 50mbps or nothing more than 64 splices is the best splice ratio to achieve good returns.
If your needs is 100mbps then 32 splices is the recommended figure to follow in the case of Time allowing ASTRO Beyond.

This is in reference to a OLT port set at 2.5Gbps rate. When problem arise, they will quietly adjust it down to half rate to solve the laser requirement issues.

Each OLT port is only capable of seeing the total downlink/uplink traffic it handles. The passive nature makes it treat all the other splits on the customers end all equal and has no capability to sense each of them differently.

I do not have much information on Malaysian ISP setup to discuss anything further but I know we are not alone when facing this drop in speed across FTTH users elsewhere especially those who implement speed caps similar to mainstream DSL speeds(10-20-30-50mbps)
Singapore ISPs do not suffer from this lag is because their speeds are in generally fast enough no to have their customers feel the slowdowns on peak times. How much slower does it get if a 100mbps or a 200mbps line drops by halve on peak hours? The average user will not be concerned by it.

On the VDSL2 users also being affected. I have little to add about it since I don't know the general setup to comment for their uplink ports for the VDSL2 switches installed inside buildings.Are they served with existing Unifi FTTH connection for its uplink ports? Does those links have additional splices to contend with?
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post Oct 26 2012, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Oct 26 2012, 06:35 PM)
You are right on the bandwidth alloted to each user is sufficient enough to service subscriber considering if the number of splits are still decent as recommended by the vendor. There is however more complications to just that consideration alone. IPTV delivery has to be taken with different approach because its multicasted with guaranteed QoS so if supposed the whole splicing ratio is satisfied.

- The internet virtual circuit(VC) return path rate available on your OLT that leads back to concentrators for all users.
- Laser power requirements on each subscriber end
- Individual account speed throttling (not done by the OLT itself which requires massive computation)

It is not safe to assume that a 1.25Gbps rate is sufficient to cater say 32 users boldly by calculating:

1250mbps/32 =  39mbps per user has lots to spare.

Vendors will tell you this general guide:

If your short term plan is 50mbps or nothing more than 64 splices is the best splice ratio to achieve good returns.
If your needs is 100mbps then 32 splices is the recommended figure to follow in the case of Time allowing ASTRO Beyond.

This is in reference to a OLT port set at 2.5Gbps rate. When problem arise, they will quietly adjust it down to half rate to solve the laser requirement issues.

Each OLT port is only capable of seeing the total downlink/uplink traffic it handles. The passive nature makes it treat all the other splits on the customers end all equal and has no capability to sense each of them differently.

I do not have much information on Malaysian ISP setup to discuss anything further but I know we are not alone when facing this drop in speed across FTTH users elsewhere especially those who implement speed caps similar to mainstream DSL speeds(10-20-30-50mbps)
Singapore ISPs do not suffer from this lag is because their speeds are in generally fast enough no to have their customers feel the slowdowns on peak times. How much slower does it get if a 100mbps or a 200mbps line drops by halve on peak hours? The average user will not be concerned by it.

On the VDSL2 users also being affected. I have little to add about it since I don't know the general setup to comment for their uplink ports for the VDSL2 switches installed inside buildings.Are they served with existing Unifi FTTH connection for its uplink ports? Does those links have additional splices to contend with?
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'Each OLT port is only capable of seeing the total downlink/uplink traffic it handles. The passive nature makes it treat all the other splits on the customers end all equal and has no capability to sense each of them differently.'. This may be case at the physical level, however at the logical level each OLT port is capable of identifying every ONT that's connected to it .. including polling of individual laser TX bias, ranging information (via the optical module on the ONTs themselves) and service flows enabled for that OLT. Furthermore, the OLTs do handle individual user rate limiting but not at the account level.. more at the ethernet/VLAN level. As for throttling, some OLTs can do that but it's vendor specific.

I have yet to obtain a GPON FPGA for lower level frame analysis of the technology but I have written multiple pieces of network data mining & diagnostics software for Alcatel/Huawei/ZTE/Fiberhome operating directly with their OLTs and IPMSANs.

I can't really delve into specific numbers without breaking a few NDAs so all I can do is assure you that over here we do look at OLT-ONT layer statistics as well as further up the network.. and that the ports are not operating oversold + at a reduced throughput rate. The majority of our bandwidth contention does not occur at the access but further up at the access concentrators. Perhaps it's different in Singapore sweat.gif ?
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post Oct 27 2012, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Oct 26 2012, 07:26 PM)
This may be case at the physical level, however at the logical level each OLT port is capable of identifying every ONT that's connected to it .. including polling of individual laser TX bias, ranging information (via the optical module on the ONTs themselves) and service flows enabled for that OLT. Furthermore, the OLTs do handle individual user rate limiting but not at the account level.. more at the ethernet/VLAN level. As for throttling, some OLTs can do that but it's vendor specific.
Does this means it takes quite some CPU processing for things to be handled logically? Will individual rate limitting and the enabling of throttling impact the performance of the line at peak load?

QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Oct 26 2012, 07:26 PM)
I can't really delve into specific numbers without breaking a few NDAs so all I can do is assure you that over here we do look at OLT-ONT layer statistics as well as further up the network.. and that the ports are not operating oversold + at a reduced throughput rate. The majority of our bandwidth contention does not occur at the access but further up at the access concentrators. Perhaps it's different in Singapore  sweat.gif ?
Thank you for your answer. I've got what I asked for. As for your answer about it being different in Singapore, it does. Just the local traffic alone is a lot different in approach. They do not have to take care of IP-DSLAM/MSANs.Both the active and passive portions of the NGNBN are handled by different operators.
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My vip5 speed test only show d/load as 2.5 Mb. Anybody know why its so blardy slow. QVOD d/load is so frustrating @ less than 20 KBS. Any sifu can assist?

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QUOTE(jack2 @ Oct 26 2012, 12:20 PM)
Wonder anyone subscribes to auto debit payment to UniFi bill through UniFi portal and get discount RM2?
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I went to a TMpoint and fill up the form. Yes, RM2 discount every month.
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post Oct 28 2012, 12:16 AM

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Just checked my DIR-615 setting and it is at

20Mhz and 802.11 b/g.

If I switch to b/g/n, got effect on my devices (smartphones, iPad) ?
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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Oct 28 2012, 12:16 AM)
Just checked my DIR-615 setting and it is at

20Mhz and 802.11 b/g.

If I switch to b/g/n, got effect on my devices (smartphones, iPad) ?
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It will be even better logically, for LAN transfers....
eg. Streaming from NAS or just transferring files to another pc....
All devices that support wireless N can fully utilise the higher speed..

I dont think you will run into any trouble ....

I dont know about power consumption but how much can a router use??
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Anyone from Ampang area and KL area - Tmn Maluri (KL), Tmn Bakti, Tmn Cempaka facing problem with their connection?
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Guys, i just installed unifi today, the problem is they provide L7 Network modem (huawei) i/o dlink. can someone tell me the username and password for this router?

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