What's the problem since it's fine to allocate separate bandwidth for different services on fibre?

If they can separate 8mbps for IPTV outside your Unifi internet use meaning they do not share the same VLAN pipe, Maxis can also separate their public hotspot bandwidth from yuor internet use by allocating maybe say another 4mbps outside your subscribed speed?

That means you get separate bandwidth for:

Internet - 10mbps
Public Hotspot - 2-4mbps
IPTV - 10mbps

The total only occupy 24mbps on each user side.

No it's not much of a concern.

Many EU countries and even Japan has implemented this method via the LA FONERA to encourage more public hotspots around the country.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FON

If security is your concern, then Unifi equipments are just as subsceptible to it since they share the same network and termination equipments.

By sharing your bandwidth with for a small amount of bandwidth, you get to use other peer hotspots for free across the world or country. You can also buy passes and top up your credit for non members to use this widely available network.

Your neighbour might have one set up in future. This is what a modern day mesh network will look like one day.

The other thing is if the public network is on a reserved VLAN, what does it concern me of my internet usage? Absolutely none because my bandwidth is untouched. If you can hack their EAP based security, you might as well attempt the prepaid top up coupons of your mobile provider.

I'm starting to see "Streamyx Mobility_xxyyzz" hotspots around broadcasted by my neighbours TM supplied modems besides their own SSID.

Are they supposed to be the hidden public hotspots similar to what Maxis is implementing?

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Added on July 17, 2012, 9:07 pmIt is on separated SSID with dedicated bandwidth assigned with different VLAN ID.

Authentication will be from Maxis's own RADIUS database. Why is it insecure?

This post has been edited by Ahn3hn3h: Jul 17 2012, 09:07 PM

I hope they don't go pointing fingers at others but do it themselves.

This weird hotspots I get to see them from now with SSIDs Streamyx Mobility_ followed by a 5 digit Hex code or something like that.

You also have weird trade going on that says FREE internet one time wireless modem purchase. But the device once and get lifetime FREE internet access.

Is this the device to access those rogue Streamyx wifi APs?

This person don't even know what the heck is he talking about.

2% hogging 500Gb or 1Tb a month?

Since when telco infrastructures calculates traffic in terms of data volume instead of throughput?

Is our internet subscription speed calculated in data volume or bits transfer per sec?



Cronies always talk BS. Sounds more like he's trying to squeze more money out of the limited throughput capacity for increase revenues reporting.

Wired internet was never meant to be compared with mobile broadband.

ISPs buy bulk BANDWIDTH not bulk volume.
Administrators monitor bandwidth congestion traffic on networks all day long to see it it gets congested over different times of the day and if need arises, they add bandwidth capacity to accommodate the surge NEVER by volume quota.

The only people that are supporting the buffet style ideology today are the evil Bell companies such as Verizon, AT&T and their babies.

With the trend of where internet is heading... cloud computing, OTT IPTV, online game content hosting(obsoleting physical media storage such as blue ray/DVDs), it's impractical to implement quota based internet in time to come.

OTT services such as Hulu, Netflix, Google TV, Apple TV etc. just makes the volume quota idea unfeasible to be implemented and probbaly isps will have to do away with it eventually maybe after they make enough of money to cover initial costs and satisfy themselves.

It is said that the walled garden based iptv servcies such as Hypp TV and ASTRO IPTV will be overtaken by the OTT market beyond 2013. Other than that the upcoming next generation consoles such as the PS4 and Xbox 720 will make it compulsory for unlimited high bandwidth internet to play games. Games will not be transferable and tied to online accounts for combating piracy. Each time you start a game, you need to connect back to servers for authentication but also games data will not be fitted entirely on physical media. Meaning part of the levels or content require additional download as the game progresses. So you know current blue ray discs fit gigabytes of content. Downloading legitimate content will also be in large amount.

Reasons that I can think of why some companies still promote :

1) Anti competition for their walled services with priority QoS.Services such as IPTV, local cloud storage and telephony that require guaranteed bandwidth to function properly.
2) They want more money and profit by squeezing more subscribers with current resources minus the need to upgrade.
3) Avoid maintenance and improvements
4) Shoddy cost saving approach

Here's a compliment for Unifi and TM.
I've to be fair when credits are deserved by ISPs

By far, TM has the largest overseas capacity and the most peering networks in Malaysia. No arguments about it.
This is followed by Time and Maxis.They have at least more than double the capacity of their nearest rival.

The only drawback about them is their customer service and support.

Why does Malaysian BTUs do not have 1000mbps ports?

No plans to offer anything beyond 100mbps for homes anytime soon ?

You didn't tell them that one of India's telecom tycoon lives in a skyscraper home with all the golden bathrooms and Ferraris overlooking the slum homes surrounding the building?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukesh_Ambani

I want to confirm this with the TM people. Are their OLT ports even though capable to operate at 2.5Gbps per OLT port but configured only to run at half rate at 1.2Gbps to extend distance coverage and connection issues?

It has serious implications if the max number of splices is still retained but upload feed is cut by half. Many subscribers sufferring from slowdowns recently on their FTTH networks and this might be the cause.It is unavoidable.

It's just a marketing gimmick by telco vendors to push GPON with max 2.5gbps shared bandwidth. Most ISPs I found out have been setting the ports to half rates to prevent compatibility issues with their customers.

It does have contention issues. Speed drops are very noticeable during peak hours. A 5mbps account on FTTH can drop to speeds below 2.5mbps from 6pm onwards till midnight then recover back to normal.

The Time users are also experiencing this for the past weeks where high takeup rates in their buildings are present.

You are right on the bandwidth alloted to each user is sufficient enough to service subscriber considering if the number of splits are still decent as recommended by the vendor. There is however more complications to just that consideration alone. IPTV delivery has to be taken with different approach because its multicasted with guaranteed QoS so if supposed the whole splicing ratio is satisfied.

- The internet virtual circuit(VC) return path rate available on your OLT that leads back to concentrators for all users.
- Laser power requirements on each subscriber end
- Individual account speed throttling (not done by the OLT itself which requires massive computation)

It is not safe to assume that a 1.25Gbps rate is sufficient to cater say 32 users boldly by calculating:

1250mbps/32 = 39mbps per user has lots to spare.

Vendors will tell you this general guide:

If your short term plan is 50mbps or nothing more than 64 splices is the best splice ratio to achieve good returns.
If your needs is 100mbps then 32 splices is the recommended figure to follow in the case of Time allowing ASTRO Beyond.

This is in reference to a OLT port set at 2.5Gbps rate. When problem arise, they will quietly adjust it down to half rate to solve the laser requirement issues.

Each OLT port is only capable of seeing the total downlink/uplink traffic it handles. The passive nature makes it treat all the other splits on the customers end all equal and has no capability to sense each of them differently.

I do not have much information on Malaysian ISP setup to discuss anything further but I know we are not alone when facing this drop in speed across FTTH users elsewhere especially those who implement speed caps similar to mainstream DSL speeds(10-20-30-50mbps)
Singapore ISPs do not suffer from this lag is because their speeds are in generally fast enough no to have their customers feel the slowdowns on peak times. How much slower does it get if a 100mbps or a 200mbps line drops by halve on peak hours? The average user will not be concerned by it.

On the VDSL2 users also being affected. I have little to add about it since I don't know the general setup to comment for their uplink ports for the VDSL2 switches installed inside buildings.Are they served with existing Unifi FTTH connection for its uplink ports? Does those links have additional splices to contend with?

Does this means it takes quite some CPU processing for things to be handled logically? Will individual rate limitting and the enabling of throttling impact the performance of the line at peak load?

Thank you for your answer. I've got what I asked for. As for your answer about it being different in Singapore, it does. Just the local traffic alone is a lot different in approach. They do not have to take care of IP-DSLAM/MSANs.Both the active and passive portions of the NGNBN are handled by different operators.

If you want to watch Netflix, you should use US server for speedtest because this will really tell you if your connection is fast enough to watch videos.