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rizvanrp
post Aug 12 2012, 09:44 PM

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@victorwan

In that configuration, your homeplug will not work as only port 1 on the ZXDSL BTU will be configured for VLAN 500 (HSI) + 600 (IPTV) trunk. You need to connect the homeplug to one of the LAN ports on the DIR-615.

If you want to use your Unifi VOIP line all over your network, you need to access the ZXDSL web configuration, copy the SIP proxy + user + password details and trunk VLAN 400 out into port 2/3/4 of the BTU or into port 1 (facing the router). If you go with port 1, your router needs to forward VLAN 400 tagged into your home network at which point you can connect a VLAN compatible SIP phone or ATA. You would probably also need to switch to a different router as this trunking configuration isn't really possible with the DIR-615. Grab an IP via DHCP on VLAN 400 and send a SIP register, you're good to go.

It would be easier to install an analog splitter from the RJ11 port on the ZXDSL or pick up a cordless phone rather than attempt to run your own VLAN trunked network behind the DIR-615 IMO.
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post Sep 27 2012, 03:31 PM

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Doubt that was the case. Looking at the BW reports half of the userbase would be paying for over quota, lol

@msaupi21
Straight, RG ports = switch chip. Think it probably has auto-MDIX as well so it shouldn't be a problem

@sirkatak
1. Not really
2. Yes, with a switch in the middle (RG IPTV port 4 -> 5 port switch -> STBs)
3. See above. The problem is getting 2x BTUs (with the sellers username + password on it) and that you won't be able to watch 2x HD channels at once as that would require 16mbps of bandwidth while the VLAN is capped at 10mbps.

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Probably next year actually
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post Oct 1 2012, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 1 2012, 08:14 AM)
Again wanna ask here
On VIP 20. When u download at 2.3mb/s (20mbps) whats ure upload at?? Shouldnt it be also at 2.3mb/s (20mb/s) so total u get is 40mbps at the same time right??

My prob is when i do it at the same time i get 1.5mb/s each so total 24mbps.

I know with VIP 5 i get full 600kb/s on upload and download at the same time  so getting at 9.6mbps

so y isnt the vip 20 at the not hitting atleast 32mbps (80percent ) to get 2mb/s each
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What protocol are you using (http, bittorrent, etc.) and are you on a wired or wifi connection?
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post Oct 1 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Oct 1 2012, 03:06 PM)
Wired. Landed. Modem TM Alcatel, Router TPlink 1043nd, Dlink Asus N66 .. tested with all 3.

Tested via HTTP, TCP, UTP, FTP lol. (torrents are TCP/UTP).

its one sided that maxed out at 20mb. Cant get both at the same time. But noted that download takes precedence on bandwidth compared to upload. If i max out Download at 2.3mb/s my upload will have around 100-200kb/s. But when i limit the Download (Via QSS or Torrents etc) to 1.5mb/s i get 1.5mb/s for upload. If download doing nothing will get 2.3mb/s on upload.

Complained already and waiting.

FTP transfer was to my office.

The reason i find this weird cause my office BIZ 20 when i am uploading to my Home at 2.4mb/s the download wont be affected with youtube hitting close to 2mb/s

I can only do one sided at max
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Hm, that's interesting. There are separate ingress/egress caps on the Alcatel ONU, if you can get 20mbps up/down separately there's likely nothing wrong with your service provisioning. They should be able to check your optical readings to see if there's anything weird there (I'm not sure how the Alcatel ONU behaves should your site not meet the recommended spec). Have you tried watching a HD channel on IPTV while maxing out your line at 1.5MB/s up+down? Also, what program are you using to take the readings..? Would like to know how much bandwidth is being used for protocol overhead so it would be ideal to use something that reads the bytes/second from the network adapter itself.
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post Oct 25 2012, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Oct 25 2012, 05:29 PM)
I want to confirm this with the TM people. Are their OLT ports even though capable to operate at 2.5Gbps per OLT port but configured only to run at half rate at 1.2Gbps to extend distance coverage and connection issues?

It has serious implications if the max number of splices is still retained but upload feed is cut by half. Many subscribers sufferring from slowdowns recently on their FTTH networks and this might be the cause.It is unavoidable.

It's just a marketing gimmick by telco vendors to push GPON with max 2.5gbps shared bandwidth. Most ISPs I found out have been setting the ports to half rates to prevent compatibility issues with their customers.
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At the current package uptake : splice ratio, there's almost no bandwidth contention at the GPON level. The slowdowns people are experiencing also affects VDSL2 users, it's most probably happening further up the network.
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post Oct 26 2012, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Oct 25 2012, 06:23 PM)
It does have contention issues. Speed drops are very noticeable during peak hours. A 5mbps account on FTTH can drop to speeds below 2.5mbps from 6pm onwards till midnight then recover back to normal.

The Time users are also experiencing this for the past weeks where high takeup rates in their buildings are present.
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How is this 5->2.5Mbps being measured? A simple way to check GPON layer bandwidth contention would be to just turn on your IPTV. It's multicasted from the OLT and uses 8-10Mbps of downstream traffic so it's probably the best point of reference. If your ONT is only able to hit 2.5Mbps on the Internet VLAN due to GPON bandwidth, your SD + HD channels would not be able to stream at all. Regardless of internet speeds, all ONTs must have 10Mbps + 256Kbps for voice + IPTV traffic at minimum or the effects of packet loss become very obvious.

The Internet speed drops at peak hours is most likely further up at the first hop where there is a significant amount of bandwidth contention.. since there would be Unifi + Streamyx users sharing it.

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post Oct 26 2012, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Ahn3hn3h @ Oct 26 2012, 06:35 PM)
You are right on the bandwidth alloted to each user is sufficient enough to service subscriber considering if the number of splits are still decent as recommended by the vendor. There is however more complications to just that consideration alone. IPTV delivery has to be taken with different approach because its multicasted with guaranteed QoS so if supposed the whole splicing ratio is satisfied.

- The internet virtual circuit(VC) return path rate available on your OLT that leads back to concentrators for all users.
- Laser power requirements on each subscriber end
- Individual account speed throttling (not done by the OLT itself which requires massive computation)

It is not safe to assume that a 1.25Gbps rate is sufficient to cater say 32 users boldly by calculating:

1250mbps/32 =  39mbps per user has lots to spare.

Vendors will tell you this general guide:

If your short term plan is 50mbps or nothing more than 64 splices is the best splice ratio to achieve good returns.
If your needs is 100mbps then 32 splices is the recommended figure to follow in the case of Time allowing ASTRO Beyond.

This is in reference to a OLT port set at 2.5Gbps rate. When problem arise, they will quietly adjust it down to half rate to solve the laser requirement issues.

Each OLT port is only capable of seeing the total downlink/uplink traffic it handles. The passive nature makes it treat all the other splits on the customers end all equal and has no capability to sense each of them differently.

I do not have much information on Malaysian ISP setup to discuss anything further but I know we are not alone when facing this drop in speed across FTTH users elsewhere especially those who implement speed caps similar to mainstream DSL speeds(10-20-30-50mbps)
Singapore ISPs do not suffer from this lag is because their speeds are in generally fast enough no to have their customers feel the slowdowns on peak times. How much slower does it get if a 100mbps or a 200mbps line drops by halve on peak hours? The average user will not be concerned by it.

On the VDSL2 users also being affected. I have little to add about it since I don't know the general setup to comment for their uplink ports for the VDSL2 switches installed inside buildings.Are they served with existing Unifi FTTH connection for its uplink ports? Does those links have additional splices to contend with?
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I'm not sure what you mean by 'Each OLT port is only capable of seeing the total downlink/uplink traffic it handles. The passive nature makes it treat all the other splits on the customers end all equal and has no capability to sense each of them differently.'. This may be case at the physical level, however at the logical level each OLT port is capable of identifying every ONT that's connected to it .. including polling of individual laser TX bias, ranging information (via the optical module on the ONTs themselves) and service flows enabled for that OLT. Furthermore, the OLTs do handle individual user rate limiting but not at the account level.. more at the ethernet/VLAN level. As for throttling, some OLTs can do that but it's vendor specific.

I have yet to obtain a GPON FPGA for lower level frame analysis of the technology but I have written multiple pieces of network data mining & diagnostics software for Alcatel/Huawei/ZTE/Fiberhome operating directly with their OLTs and IPMSANs.

I can't really delve into specific numbers without breaking a few NDAs so all I can do is assure you that over here we do look at OLT-ONT layer statistics as well as further up the network.. and that the ports are not operating oversold + at a reduced throughput rate. The majority of our bandwidth contention does not occur at the access but further up at the access concentrators. Perhaps it's different in Singapore sweat.gif ?

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