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1ullaby
post Aug 19 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 03:58 PM)
Hmm, IMHO, for Bdr Setia ALam, the first 5 years were really slow as the township back then was really deep and far from all the commercial and amenities esp near Meru and Klang towns. I also notice majority of the early own stay buyers were upgraders from Meru and Klang.

I think Bdr Setia Alam peak was 2010-2013 where the prices were picking up due to market response picked up from these period, surrounding areas picked up, the maturity of Bdr Setia Alam itself picked up and also, the catalyst of commercials are getting better since 2011 as well as the Setia City Mall is completed recent years.

For me, to define it's peaking up, would be largely depends on few aspects and factors;

1) The number of the phases had launched vs the remaining phases to be launch, the number cannot be one sided regardless of the township sizes.

2) The prices & respond of the current launches for the past 1 year

3) The prices & subsales respond of the current completed launches for the past 1 year

4) The performance of the surrounding neighbourhood ( ex. Kota Kemuning, Kemuning, Bukit Rimau and Shah Alam for Alam Impian )

5) The current population of the township

6) The current catalyst of the township esp commercials, amenities, schools, and etc

7) Marketability factor
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Well said. Probably the term 'maturing' will be more apt than 'peaking' then smile.gif

alam impian have lots of positive news this year, mall ... bomba .. university .. tesco ... hope all of them realises hehe

u still waiting for your emerald? sa mention latest date is in october
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post Aug 19 2013, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Aug 19 2013, 04:06 PM)
Well said. Probably the term 'maturing' will be more apt than 'peaking' then  smile.gif

alam impian have lots of positive news this year, mall ... bomba .. university .. tesco ... hope all of them realises hehe

u still waiting for your emerald? sa mention latest date is in october
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Hmm, which Emerald u mean? Hehheh.

Emerald by Naza TTDI or Emerald at Rawang?
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post Aug 19 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 04:14 PM)
Hmm, which Emerald u mean? Hehheh.

Emerald by Naza TTDI or Emerald at Rawang?
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I have a feeling you will be more interested in naza .. am i right chief ... haha

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Aug 19 2013, 04:18 PM)
I have a feeling you will be more interested in naza .. am i right chief ... haha
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Hmm, not really. Actually, if possible, both. Naza TTDI already tested but I&P not yet.

I only like standard double storey, i think 2 1/2 storey kinda tough n require longer holding power due it would be the size for future. Unlikely to go in Naza TTDI again as no more double storey link phase.

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:31 PM

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AI has started since 2004, it will be a big area consists of many Tamans, even though there is a plot of land allocated for commercial, I dun think it can be like KK or Setia Alam even after 30 yrs. Dun expect AI to be a great happening township (with the current management). **I hope I am totally wrong
Rimbayu will probably be another Setia Alam in the future, but to achieve what Setia Alam hv now, it needs at least 15 yrs.
If I plot a graph between these 2 townships in terms of maturity, Rimbayu will never able to catch up AI in the next 8 yrs, by 2023-2025, I think Rimbayu price will escalate faster (%) than AI house, the 2 lines will crisscross by then.
Rimbayu is too deep in, I wonder how many of the purchasers (Phase 1 - Phase 5) will stay in, my prediction of the occupancy rate in Rimbayu in 2018 would be max 30% only. This has stopped me fr investing.
AI and Kinrara is very alike, lack of commercial activities but due to the strategic location, it won't be too bad, the size of the link houses is indeed too limited in the mkt now / future. It is a very safe bet.

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 04:25 PM)
Hmm, not really. Actually, if possible, both. Naza TTDI already tested but I&P not yet.

I only like standard double storey, i think 2 1/2 storey kinda tough n require longer holding power due it would be the size for future. Unlikely to go in Naza TTDI again as no more double storey link phase.
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Thats why la aquina can price so high now
2.5 storey not bad also for own stay imho .. the facade i really like

Perhaps can take 24x90 at ai ... that's where the action will be for this year i think if price is around 900k ... or maybe the price is wishful thinking

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 19 2013, 04:31 PM)
AI has started since 2004, it will be a big area consists of many Tamans, even though there is a plot of land allocated for commercial, I dun think it can be like KK or Setia Alam even after 30 yrs. Dun expect AI to be a great happening township (with the current management). **I hope I am totally wrong
Rimbayu will probably be another Setia Alam in the future, but to achieve what Setia Alam hv now, it needs at least 15 yrs.
If I plot a graph between these 2 townships in terms of maturity, Rimbayu will never able to catch up AI in the next 8 yrs, by 2023-2025, I think Rimbayu price will escalate faster (%) than AI house, the 2 lines will crisscross by then.
Rimbayu is too deep in, I wonder how many of the purchasers (Phase 1 - Phase 5) will stay in, my prediction of the occupancy rate in Rimbayu in 2018 would be max 30% only. This has stopped me fr investing.
AI and Kinrara is very alike, lack of commercial activities but due to the strategic location, it won't be too bad, the size of the link houses is indeed too limited in the mkt now / future. It is a very safe bet.
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Boss I also think so. I have discounted the commercial factor. But I hope the university realises to give it a kick nonetheless ...
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Aug 19 2013, 04:46 PM)
Thats why la aquina can price so high now
2.5 storey not bad also for own stay imho .. the facade i really like

Perhaps can take 24x90 at ai ... that's where the action will be for this year i think if price is around 900k ... or maybe the price is wishful thinking
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Yes, I also notice the improvement of facade phase by phase of Naza TTDI's AI. Esp Zirconia looks very great or probably the best among all 2 storey link phases and Emerald looks good too, quite decent and modern.

Agree that 2.5 storey actually is quite good for own stay if one has more family members for space and deckers and also can hire maid or self hardworking to maintain or cleaning the whole built up area. I still prefer the conventional of 2 storey in terms of own stay ( due to couple only ) and investment, more hybrid.

24 x 90 for I&P AI could be too big built up and expensive, comparing it to Pentas 25 x 85, I much prefer Pentas 25 x 85.
I always go for width rather than long, my preference always 24 to 26 feet ( normal surperlink ) to long 75-85 feet ( normal superlink )

Let's see what is the built up for 24 x 90 ...

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tai kors... are the roads leading to Pentas open dy ar??? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nkhong @ Aug 18 2013, 11:35 PM)
Aiyoyo, leak from waste pipe below the basin?

Advantage of pentas, three toilet leak, still got the other three to use  ...
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Hahahahha sakit la lu org
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Aug 19 2013, 02:20 PM)
For setia alam people may argue peak was during the completion of setia mall... although it was non event and values continue to inch up
i&p AI how to define the peak period? TTDI alam impian maybe 3-5 years after the completion of all launches ... i&p i also duno how .. probably slow and steady climb like kinrara ...
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Frankly speaking, i dont really like the quality of houses in setia alam (not evo park) and housing area is already like old Klang. Packed and scattered.

Price is booming, yes.. Good for investment but lack class. How can a 800k 22x75 terrace offer pvc toilet doors?

AI time will come once residential shoot up and a bit more commercial areas in 3-5 yrs time. Shah alam is just down the road and u have ur own 60c toll ahhahaha

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QUOTE(bariong @ Aug 19 2013, 06:31 PM)
Frankly speaking, i dont really like the quality of houses in setia alam (not evo park) and housing area is already like old Klang. Packed and scattered.

Price is booming, yes.. Good for investment but lack class. How can a 800k 22x75 terrace offer pvc toilet doors?

AI time will come once residential shoot up and a bit more commercial areas in 3-5 yrs time. Shah alam is just down the road and u have ur own 60c toll ahhahaha
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SPS Setia Alam house quality worse than IOI, no eye see
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post Aug 19 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(bariong @ Aug 19 2013, 06:31 PM)
Frankly speaking, i dont really like the quality of houses in setia alam (not evo park) and housing area is already like old Klang. Packed and scattered.

Price is booming, yes.. Good for investment but lack class. How can a 800k 22x75 terrace offer pvc toilet doors?

AI time will come once residential shoot up and a bit more commercial areas in 3-5 yrs time. Shah alam is just down the road and u have ur own 60c toll ahhahaha
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Toll is not an issue for AI. Setia Alam also pay toll for NKVE link
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post Aug 19 2013, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 04:25 PM)
Hmm, not really. Actually, if possible, both. Naza TTDI already tested but I&P not yet.

I only like standard double storey, i think 2 1/2 storey kinda tough n require longer holding power due it would be the size for future. Unlikely to go in Naza TTDI again as no more double storey link phase.
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U can go for sub sale if u dun mind to pay a premium smile.gif

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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Aug 19 2013, 04:46 PM)
Thats why la aquina can price so high now
2.5 storey not bad also for own stay imho .. the facade i really like

Perhaps can take 24x90 at ai ... that's where the action will be for this year i think if price is around 900k ... or maybe the price is wishful thinking
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Mind to share Aquina lauching price -vs- current market value for 20x80, 22x80 n 24x80?
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 19 2013, 08:45 PM)
Mind to share Aquina lauching price -vs- current market value for 20x80, 22x80 n 24x80?
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u wanna buy too?

i'm not vested there .. so i dont have exact figures ... if my memory serves me right. 600k , 650k, 700k (stand corrected)

current price u check urself la smile.gif
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QUOTE(1ullaby @ Aug 19 2013, 09:23 PM)
u wanna buy too?

i'm not vested there .. so i dont have exact figures ... if my memory serves me right. 600k , 650k, 700k (stand corrected)

current price u check urself la  smile.gif
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Aquina smallest unit selling at 700-750 ada seller desperet can get 700.. Checked before raya.. But dapur is a bit small (so small)
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post Aug 19 2013, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 19 2013, 08:42 PM)
U can go for sub sale if u dun mind to pay a premium smile.gif
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When I shopping around for Nukilan 3 ( just launched ) and Pentas 3 few mths back then, where I almost buy Pentas 3 but last unit of non bumi was booked and sold, I did consider buying sub-sales of Arca or Karya.

Its bcz both require 10% dp and the differences only is the free S&P legal fee ( where I can get very huge discount from my own lawyer if subsales ) and the 50% off stamp duty ( not much big difference ) but subsales can get me immediate rental income to cover the loan interest while Pentas 3 or Nukilan 3 not until after VP.

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post Aug 19 2013, 11:36 PM

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After attending TTDI Citrina / Aquina launch, judging the concept, location and pricing. It helped me to firm up my decision to buy Pentas.
Nothing special with TTDI facade, it is slightly better than I&P design, compared to others, it is not so futuristic to me.
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 19 2013, 11:36 PM)
After attending TTDI Citrina / Aquina launch, judging the concept, location and pricing. It helped me to firm up my decision to buy Pentas.
Nothing special with TTDI facade, it is slightly better than I&P design, compared to others, it is not so futuristic to me.
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Pentas 1,2 were launched before Citrina. Citrina lauching has anything to do with your purchase of Pentas 1 & 2 that u have already purchased a year before?

Citrina even launched after Pentas 3 which u didn't buy.

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