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post Aug 12 2013, 12:15 PM

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Anyone drop by the sales office today? Is it open?

Tried calling Mr Zul this morning to arrange for keys but nobody pick up...
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post Aug 12 2013, 01:43 PM

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QUOTE(PropertyN00b @ Aug 12 2013, 12:52 PM)
Today the sales office is opened. Manned by Azizan in the morning.

The model house for phase A02-01b is here. 24x90
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Thanks for info bro. Try my luck then as besok gotta outstation liao rclxub.gif

24x90... damn dats a biggie too. Last quoted price for A02-01b duno is it still valid for this size. Frm 900k? blush.gif

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post Aug 12 2013, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(Danielp @ Aug 12 2013, 02:17 PM)
Then from where this 24x90 come from? endlot? or other phase? hmm.gif
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Other phase. To the right side of pentas
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post Aug 18 2013, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Aug 18 2013, 07:38 PM)
Low density has it cons too. This means commercial activities will be less. You don't have enuf residents to support compare to rimbayu. Unless you leverage nearby township otherwise it will be difficult.
Since the  toll is there, unlikely those from neighbour come and shop...
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I think Kota kemuning will get more n more 'ong' commercial wise ...
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post Aug 18 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Aug 18 2013, 08:27 PM)
Perhaps its time for Kota Kemuning to have its own nice little shopping complex with cinema...
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Boss you are spot on. Its on the way in form of 'Gamuda walk'

Heard a jap grocer and rakuzen first to be in..

Is it because KK got decent jap population... blink.gif



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post Aug 19 2013, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 10:15 AM)
UFO taikor, thanks for ur great data.

Yes, agree like many bosses here, the choice is very clear at the moment and at least for now until next 5-7 years.

If AI only has 2000 landed planning in the spanning of 1200 acres, it would be quite low dense. Without golf course and multi huge park, I assume it would be pro-rata of 6000-7000 homes ( included highrises ) once fully materialized.

I trust AI in terms of location and its prices compare to the neighbours. And again, prices of landed homes is very much affordable compare to almost whole AI by size and built up. I trust I&P n Naza TTDI in building houses for comfort n appreciation value.

But, the same worry is again the commercial activities n planning which is minimal at this point of view. I&P had track records in Bdr Kinrara n Alam Damai big township development but I must admit they were so lucky to have both great huge land with great location n hybrid to any places, if not based on their current poor accessibility n commercial, the prices should be 30% > Bdr Puteri and catching Bkt Jalil landed. while, IJM by now has untested record in huge township and if their execution is good, I think they can do well since the masterplan looks awesome but riding on the ups on Kemuning side.

I still think AI peak time is yet to come. Probably in next 3-5 years.
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For setia alam people may argue peak was during the completion of setia mall... although it was non event and values continue to inch up
i&p AI how to define the peak period? TTDI alam impian maybe 3-5 years after the completion of all launches ... i&p i also duno how .. probably slow and steady climb like kinrara ...
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post Aug 19 2013, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 03:58 PM)
Hmm, IMHO, for Bdr Setia ALam, the first 5 years were really slow as the township back then was really deep and far from all the commercial and amenities esp near Meru and Klang towns. I also notice majority of the early own stay buyers were upgraders from Meru and Klang.

I think Bdr Setia Alam peak was 2010-2013 where the prices were picking up due to market response picked up from these period, surrounding areas picked up, the maturity of Bdr Setia Alam itself picked up and also, the catalyst of commercials are getting better since 2011 as well as the Setia City Mall is completed recent years.

For me, to define it's peaking up, would be largely depends on few aspects and factors;

1) The number of the phases had launched vs the remaining phases to be launch, the number cannot be one sided regardless of the township sizes.

2) The prices & respond of the current launches for the past 1 year

3) The prices & subsales respond of the current completed launches for the past 1 year

4) The performance of the surrounding neighbourhood ( ex. Kota Kemuning, Kemuning, Bukit Rimau and Shah Alam for Alam Impian )

5) The current population of the township

6) The current catalyst of the township esp commercials, amenities, schools, and etc

7) Marketability factor
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Well said. Probably the term 'maturing' will be more apt than 'peaking' then smile.gif

alam impian have lots of positive news this year, mall ... bomba .. university .. tesco ... hope all of them realises hehe

u still waiting for your emerald? sa mention latest date is in october
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post Aug 19 2013, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 04:14 PM)
Hmm, which Emerald u mean? Hehheh.

Emerald by Naza TTDI or Emerald at Rawang?
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I have a feeling you will be more interested in naza .. am i right chief ... haha

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 19 2013, 04:25 PM)
Hmm, not really. Actually, if possible, both. Naza TTDI already tested but I&P not yet.

I only like standard double storey, i think 2 1/2 storey kinda tough n require longer holding power due it would be the size for future. Unlikely to go in Naza TTDI again as no more double storey link phase.
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Thats why la aquina can price so high now
2.5 storey not bad also for own stay imho .. the facade i really like

Perhaps can take 24x90 at ai ... that's where the action will be for this year i think if price is around 900k ... or maybe the price is wishful thinking

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post Aug 19 2013, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Aug 19 2013, 04:31 PM)
AI has started since 2004, it will be a big area consists of many Tamans, even though there is a plot of land allocated for commercial, I dun think it can be like KK or Setia Alam even after 30 yrs. Dun expect AI to be a great happening township (with the current management). **I hope I am totally wrong
Rimbayu will probably be another Setia Alam in the future, but to achieve what Setia Alam hv now, it needs at least 15 yrs.
If I plot a graph between these 2 townships in terms of maturity, Rimbayu will never able to catch up AI in the next 8 yrs, by 2023-2025, I think Rimbayu price will escalate faster (%) than AI house, the 2 lines will crisscross by then.
Rimbayu is too deep in, I wonder how many of the purchasers (Phase 1 - Phase 5) will stay in, my prediction of the occupancy rate in Rimbayu in 2018 would be max 30% only. This has stopped me fr investing.
AI and Kinrara is very alike, lack of commercial activities but due to the strategic location, it won't be too bad, the size of the link houses is indeed too limited in the mkt now / future. It is a very safe bet.
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Boss I also think so. I have discounted the commercial factor. But I hope the university realises to give it a kick nonetheless ...
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post Aug 19 2013, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 19 2013, 08:45 PM)
Mind to share Aquina lauching price -vs- current market value for 20x80, 22x80 n 24x80?
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u wanna buy too?

i'm not vested there .. so i dont have exact figures ... if my memory serves me right. 600k , 650k, 700k (stand corrected)

current price u check urself la smile.gif
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post Aug 20 2013, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 20 2013, 11:00 AM)
Agent say no more new DSL @ TTDI
Only 5 phase (limited edition)
I&P keep on launching new DSL like Nukilan3, Pentas4, Tenun, etc
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Limited edition also no use if inp really does fish n goat smile.gif
D premium is solely on dat now
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post Aug 20 2013, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Aug 20 2013, 11:27 AM)
Early movers of F&G would have capture a certain % of market share as compared to late comers
By d time I&P implement F&G, TTDI could have introduce new features for its new launches
I&P will need to play catch up game
In biz, u need to b fast, otherwise ..........
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Bro in property it doesnt work that way la

To achieve equilibrium.. either u c a gap up in inp or a gap down in naza... lol

But most prob its like ufo boss say.. gap up!
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post Aug 20 2013, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Aug 20 2013, 12:13 PM)
No need to argue.
Let's Numbers do the talking. When both Vped, which give better ROI and COCG wins, which can sell faster with outshine the others.
For INP and TTDI, it could be both win-win, not necessary 1 win 1 must loose.
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Its a friendly competition to bring the best out of two tamans..
dont worry at the end of the day, we are still satu alam impian .. hehe
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post Aug 22 2013, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(cyrix @ Aug 22 2013, 09:15 PM)
Although TTDI land is closer to the river but actually it is on higher ground than Pentas area.
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Thats not true. Pentas average 30-35m above sea level, reaching 40m at some point

TTDI land, emerald area 10-20m, spira area 20-22m, sales gallery area 33-35m
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 22 2013, 09:51 PM)
Yeah. On top of that, if u have 2 plots and 1 big hill in the middle of the 2 plots with a river next to 1 plot, what do u think that will happen if the river starts to flood? Lol. Only on side of the plot kena banjir. The other plot got that big hill to cover it. That is the situation now between pentas and TTDI AI. Hopefully never floods though
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Haha, ya, thank you big hill brows.gif

I think if Sri Muda isnt flooding already, AI is very safe one. I cant find a spot in Sri Muda that exceeds 10m above sea level ... sweat.gif

Can say AI piece of land is the best in terms of elevation vs the surrounding areas ... up down left right also kalah ..

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post Aug 25 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(AMINT @ Aug 25 2013, 03:01 PM)
Pentas subsales should be most keng imho. I just took key yesterday, straight buyer come and wanna buy when i inspect with inp. Lol. today see another buyer also. Next week got appointment also. Wait until transacted price then we will know if pentas is really keng or not lor.Buyer asking around 60% from my buying price. Fyi. I didnt agree coz we all know what is gonna happen soon. No corner is selling cheap.
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post Aug 30 2013, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Aug 30 2013, 11:15 PM)
Any idea of the built up area? Total units?

24x80 very good size.
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From 800k... means non bumi starts from 850k or 860k rite... barely doable price...

The facade really haiz... if they make it like emerald then maybe can close one eye .. now its so extremely normal looking... furthermore its in a very strategic spot.. its a waste
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post Aug 30 2013, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(sycluap @ Aug 30 2013, 11:28 PM)
yeah, the price too steep. But I am sure when it is launched, still many will grab it, because the location is simply irresistible.
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I have my doubts tho if this pricing is confirmed but the SA there mentioned that a ballot maybe called... so confident? Lol....
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QUOTE(jucl @ Aug 31 2013, 12:57 AM)
Though 24X80, build up almost similar to Pentas 4?
Which one better buy?
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I dont know how I&P calculate leh ... sometimes its quite confusing
For 25x85 I always take 25feet off the length for porch and rear for the about there figure, so 25x60x2= build up 3000sf
24x80, my calculation will be around 24x55x2=2640sf

Pentas 4 larger by 360sf but new phase compensated by a more centralised and strategic location for the same price .... hmm.gif

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