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post Dec 11 2008, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Dec 11 2008, 02:02 AM)
(watashi ha) inorimasu - inoru itself is a verb.
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post Dec 14 2008, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Dec 10 2008, 06:13 AM)
There are 2 common forms of usage of bakari I can think of:

1. depicts an action that has just been completed

usage: verb plain past form (~た) + bakari

e.g. さっき食べたばかりです。 sakki tabeta bakari desu

meaning: I just ate (a short while ago)

n.b. that there is another similar form to depict that an action has just completed: verb plain past form (~た) + tokoro

However, the bakari form depicts the completion of action in a much more relative way: When one says "I just ate" as per the example above, the action has taken place in a relatively short period of time (in the speaker's mind) and the actual passage of time is not explicitly implied. When the speaker says he or she just ate, it could have been just 5 mins ago or an hour or two ago, the point being that the speaker doesn't feel hungry.

If one uses the (~た) + tokoro form, the emphasis is more on a time-based scale, and the action described is much more immediate.

2. depict wholly performing only one action

e.g。  遊んでばかりいないで、もっと勉強しなさい。Asonde bakari inaide, motto benkyou shinasai

meaning: Don't just only play around, and please study more!

usage: verb te form (~て) + bakari

This form usually appears in a complaint and typically expresses a degree annoyance.
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well explained. Just want to add something, sometimes you will hear bakkari instead of bakari, well basically is the same meaning just the intonation is different and maybe you will hear ppl saying "bakka" also, is a shortened version of bakari.
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QUOTE(jayhan @ Dec 14 2008, 11:07 PM)
well explained. Just want to add something, sometimes you will hear bakkari instead of bakari, well basically is the same meaning just the intonation is different and maybe you will hear ppl saying "bakka" also, is a shortened version of bakari.
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yah ばっかり or ばっか should be considered conversational variants and are fairly common in everyday usage. But generally I would avoid teaching those to newbies
余計なこと教えたら、混乱させてしまうから。sweat.gif ...

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post Dec 16 2008, 09:43 PM

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its very difficult to learn..

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post Dec 17 2008, 03:49 PM

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namaewa kamaru-sama...yoroshiku..onamae??
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just fer ur info smile.gif

i personally think that the book that i had purchased quite recently is quite good.. thumbup.gif

the 'revised edition - making out in japanese by Todd & Erika Geers'

here's the link to browse the book :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0804833966..._pt#reader-link

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post Dec 21 2008, 11:51 AM

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Ah....
watashi ha xenon desu.
Yoroshiku onegaishimasu.

mou nagai jikan de, nihongo wo tsukawanakatta.
moshi kotaba mata bunbou wo machigattara, oshiette kurette kudasai.

koko ni kitto, nihongo juutsu no sensei ga imasu ne.
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Yoroshiku.




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post Dec 24 2008, 07:57 AM

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はい!!!
watashi no namaーe wa hiroshimaru des!
私の名前輪博丸です!

yoroshiku onegaishimasu!

お会いで着て嬉です!!
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QUOTE(hiroshimaru @ Dec 24 2008, 07:57 AM)
はい!!!
watashi no namaーe wa hiroshimaru des!
私の名前輪博丸です!

yoroshiku onegaishimasu!

お会いで着て嬉です!!
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yoroshiku!

nihonjin ka?
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QUOTE(hiroshimaru @ Dec 24 2008, 07:57 AM)
はい!!!
watashi no namaーe wa hiroshimaru des!
私の名前輪博丸です!

yoroshiku onegaishimasu!

お会いで着て嬉です!!
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i dun understand the japanese writing... kinda mess up sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Dec 25 2008, 04:34 AM

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i wanna learn how to read japs le
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post Dec 25 2008, 09:15 AM

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メリークリスマス! laugh.gif laugh.gif hands.gif hands.gif

Anyway, what does ひろう かんです means?
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post Dec 25 2008, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hikaru Kenshin @ Dec 25 2008, 09:13 PM)
メリークリスマス!  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  hands.gif  hands.gif

Anyway, what does ひろう かんです means?
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that's "I am feeling f**kin tired"
the kanji are "疲労感"

but usually the Japanese don't use this phrase - "tsukareta" (疲れた) is more commonly used.

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post Dec 29 2008, 04:55 PM

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語文センターで日本語を学んでおきたいですけど…
料金が高すぎて…
オレには払う余裕がない…

KLで料金が一番安いのセンターがいるのか?

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post Dec 29 2008, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Satosh @ Dec 29 2008, 04:55 PM)
語文センターで日本語を学んでおきたいですけど…
料金が高すぎて…
オレには払う余裕がない…

KLで料金が一番安いのセンターがいるのか?

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I don't think there is such japanese language center in KL that can offer less expensive tutor fee, at least not the good ones...

P/S it is "aru no ka" not "iru no ka"... Thanks.

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post Dec 30 2008, 02:53 PM

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アドレスが見つかりません













moe.gov.my という名前のサーバが見つかりませんでした。







指定されたアドレスのホストサーバが見つかりませんでした。

* ドメイン名の入力を間違っていないか確認してください。(例えば "www.mozilla-japan.org" を間違えて "ww.mozilla-japan.org" などと入力していないか)
* 指定されたアドレスのドメインが存在しないかもしれません。すでに有効期限が切れて廃止されている可能性もあります。
* 他のサイトも表示できない場合、コンピュータのネットワーク接続を確認してください。
* ファイアーウォールやプロキシでネットワークが保護されている場合、その設定に問題があると正常に表示できなくなることがあります。

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