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MeruChan
post Dec 3 2008, 08:13 PM

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post Dec 3 2008, 08:37 PM

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Meru...You love Japanese pretty boy ?


Whats the difference between Hiragana and Katakana ? I don't know is this thread got anot or I might miss it !
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post Dec 3 2008, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Mythras231 @ Dec 3 2008, 08:37 PM)
Whats the difference between Hiragana and Katakana ? I don't know is this thread got anot or I might miss it !
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Main one would be Hiragana is used for words created by the Japanese.
Katakana on the other hand is used for words that is similar to pronunciation of something in another language. Eg: video = ビデオ

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post Dec 4 2008, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Mythras231 @ Dec 3 2008, 08:37 PM)
Meru...You love Japanese pretty boy ?
Whats the difference between Hiragana and Katakana ? I don't know is this thread got anot or I might miss it !
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japanese pretty boi? i am not sure..
i love love love ikuta toma and shirota yuu!!
not only for their looks but their personality!

shirotan looks like he came out of Final Fantasy games lulz


hiragana are あいうえお
katakana are アイウエオ

u can know more from page 1! smile.gif


Added on December 4, 2008, 10:08 amcan anyone give me the romajo for the following kanji.
these are from the calendar. sun-sat.






‘gold’ (can’t find the Chinese character)



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post Dec 4 2008, 10:13 AM

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日曜
月曜
火曜
水曜
木曜
金曜
土曜

ichi-you(bi)
getsu-you(bi)
ka-you(bi)
sui-you(bi)
moku-you(bi)
do-you(bi)
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post Dec 4 2008, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Dec 4 2008, 10:13 AM)
日曜
月曜
火曜
水曜
木曜
金曜
土曜

ichi-you(bi)
getsu-you(bi)
ka-you(bi)
sui-you(bi)
moku-you(bi)
do-you(bi)
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Should be nichi-you(bi)

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post Dec 4 2008, 02:28 PM

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post Dec 4 2008, 03:17 PM

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QUOTE(dopodplaya @ Dec 4 2008, 10:13 AM)
日曜
月曜
火曜
水曜
木曜
金曜
土曜

nichi-you(bi)
getsu-you(bi)
ka-you(bi)
sui-you(bi)
moku-you(bi)
do-you(bi)
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oh sounds jz like the chinese pronounciation




水 (sui) >
木 (muk)
金 >> ?? this is what?
土 (tou)


so this 曜 = yobi lar?
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post Dec 4 2008, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(MeruChan @ Dec 4 2008, 03:17 PM)
oh sounds jz like the chinese pronounciation




水 (sui)  >
木 (muk)
金 >> ?? this is what?
土  (tou)
so this 曜 = yobi lar?
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金 -> Jin in Mandarin

曜 is よう in the word 日曜(日)
Sunday is 日曜(日) [にちよう(び)]
日(the last one) is normally ひ, but in this case it is び
Complicated right? laugh.gif laugh.gif

You cannot say that a particular kanji is pronounced the same everytime.
When paired with other characters, they can be pronounced differently.
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post Dec 4 2008, 05:37 PM

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yeah so what is jin in romaji? bcos dopod only gave me 6 days..i assume that he missed out friday.

yeah it's kinda complicated..kanji is rly hard.
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post Dec 4 2008, 07:19 PM

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I think if you buy those handbook ... Can help alot ... English + Kanji + Romaji ... I got 2 nao ... Kinda helped me alot in typing and speaking ...
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QUOTE(MeruChan @ Dec 4 2008, 05:37 PM)
yeah so what is jin in romaji? bcos dopod only gave me 6 days..i assume that he missed out friday.
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Oh....din noticed he missed Friday out. laugh.gif laugh.gif
Friday is きんようび

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post Dec 5 2008, 08:50 AM

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i didn't either laugh.gif
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post Dec 5 2008, 10:08 AM

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Haha, indeed kanji is very difficult. More so for people like me who has no chinese script writing knowledge.

Another example of disparity in kanji scripts are like:

金曜日 - kinyoubi (friday)
お金 - okane (money)

Same writing, totally different ways to pronounce it. biggrin.gif

Oh well, thats the joy of learning. If everything is simple then there is no point learning it hehe

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post Dec 6 2008, 09:13 PM

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Yea...Just like French and others ... They are hard too
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post Dec 7 2008, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(MeruChan @ Dec 3 2008, 03:38 PM)
oh wow thanks for the lengthy explanation!

have you taken the tesT?
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My kanji sux. I last tried level 1 in 2005...didn't pass T_T
The higher one goes, the more kanji one needs to master, and the gulf between level 1 and 2 is huge. That puts non-chinese educated people like me at a distinct disadvantage.
I always seem to do well for the listening, but not the reading or vocab....

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MeruChan
post Dec 9 2008, 10:29 PM

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question!

pls explain

bakari

sankyuuu
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post Dec 10 2008, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(MeruChan @ Dec 9 2008, 10:29 PM)
question!

pls explain

bakari

sankyuuu
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There are 2 common forms of usage of bakari I can think of:

1. depicts an action that has just been completed

usage: verb plain past form (~た) + bakari

e.g. さっき食べたばかりです。 sakki tabeta bakari desu

meaning: I just ate (a short while ago)

n.b. that there is another similar form to depict that an action has just completed: verb plain past form (~た) + tokoro

However, the bakari form depicts the completion of action in a much more relative way: When one says "I just ate" as per the example above, the action has taken place in a relatively short period of time (in the speaker's mind) and the actual passage of time is not explicitly implied. When the speaker says he or she just ate, it could have been just 5 mins ago or an hour or two ago, the point being that the speaker doesn't feel hungry.

If one uses the (~た) + tokoro form, the emphasis is more on a time-based scale, and the action described is much more immediate.

2. depict wholly performing only one action

e.g。 遊んでばかりいないで、もっと勉強しなさい。Asonde bakari inaide, motto benkyou shinasai

meaning: Don't just only play around, and please study more!

usage: verb te form (~て) + bakari

This form usually appears in a complaint and typically expresses a degree annoyance.

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post Dec 10 2008, 10:54 PM

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hi, can anyone help me to clarify this?

let's say I want to translate 'I'm praying'

should it be inori o shimasu or inori shimasu?

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post Dec 11 2008, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(CallMeMonkey @ Dec 10 2008, 10:54 PM)
hi, can anyone help me to clarify this?

let's say I want to translate 'I'm praying'

should it be inori o shimasu or inori shimasu?

ありがとう! notworthy.gif
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(watashi ha) inorimasu - inoru itself is a verb.

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