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Bert Rizal
post Jun 21 2012, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 21 2012, 03:11 PM)
From the list we have - there's already 4 of us. It's a good start if you ask me...we can start surveying and view what feasible options we have in terms of tightening up the security.  nod.gif

I can consult a friend who is a Security Manager and a ex-Policeman to see what we need in terms of plugging the gaps. He may have ideas on what & what not to do.
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What if we assign a guard for each rows. maybe we dont need to gate our phase. FL wont be a GG but will be known as "the phase with full of guards". we just need to make sure that the guards constantly do roundings and knows all the residents.. we will hv to treat them guards well for them to work well..

rows which already has enough support from the owners/enough money should go first.. no need to wait for other rows.. at least the rows with guards would be the last option for the burglars:) hehehe..

also, for a start no need 24 hrs.. maybe 2 shifts of 16 hrs crucial period will do.. we hv 8 hrs of "alert period", which changes everyday..

p/s: i wish the 4 of us is on the same row.. smile.gif worst case, we get a guard to look after our 4 houses only.. hahaha
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post Jun 21 2012, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Bert Rizal @ Jun 21 2012, 04:19 PM)
What if we assign a guard for each rows. maybe we dont need to gate our phase. FL wont be a GG but will be known as "the phase with full of guards". we just need to make sure that the guards constantly do roundings and knows all the residents.. we will hv to treat them guards well for them to work well..

rows which already has enough support from the owners/enough money should go first.. no need to wait for other rows.. at least the rows with guards would be the last option for the burglars:) hehehe..

also, for a start no need 24 hrs.. maybe 2 shifts of 16 hrs crucial period will do.. we hv 8 hrs of "alert period", which changes everyday..

p/s: i wish the 4 of us is on the same row.. smile.gif worst case, we get a guard to look after our 4 houses only.. hahaha
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...but isn't the guards by row already in the plan? I mean SD do provide the row-by-row guards initially right? or was it for the Fern Lane entrance only? hmm.gif
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post Jun 21 2012, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 21 2012, 04:53 PM)
...but isn't the guards by row already in the plan? I mean SD do provide the row-by-row guards initially right? or was it for the Fern Lane entrance only?  hmm.gif
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SD cant be providing 5 to 9 guards for fern lane. if so maybe only the entrance, focussing on lorry as they only look after SD property.. but which entrance? every entrance?

most of the break ins happened were at the ones with SD guards right?
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post Jun 21 2012, 06:22 PM

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Contemplating to bring this to the major press to get SD and police attention hmm.gif ....Anybody know where the nearest police station??


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post Jun 21 2012, 07:56 PM

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Nearest will be bukit jelutong i guess ..DARA said its under their jurastriction..

Yup most of the case they said do by indo people most probably construction give lead to them where to target maybe?

Maybe we can suggest them to do one temporary police station here ? A constant patrol car maybe
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post Jun 21 2012, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(Kabadi84 @ Jun 21 2012, 07:56 PM)
Nearest will be bukit jelutong i guess ..DARA said its under their jurastriction..

Yup most of the case they said do by indo people most probably construction give lead to them where to target maybe?

Maybe we can suggest them to do one temporary police station here ? A constant patrol car maybe
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Best is if one of the DA puchaser is some OCPD or SP . smile.gif how I wish he was my neighbor.. Hehe
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post Jun 21 2012, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Bert Rizal @ Jun 21 2012, 05:54 PM)
SD cant be providing 5 to 9 guards for fern lane. if so maybe only the entrance, focussing on lorry as they only look after SD property.. but which entrance? every entrance?

most of the break ins happened were at the ones with SD guards right?
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Having guards alone is not enough if you ask me. Constant patrol and hourly check-ins at strategic locations must be done so that they are well occupied with their working time.

The guard themselves must not be some 'cikai' guy who just sits at the entrance and allow any Tom, d*** & Harry to go in and out...
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post Jun 22 2012, 04:12 AM

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I think just behind me at jalan 93 got one datuk police every moning got driver waiting for him at his house . He is usually busy rarely see him in our gthering here 91/92/93 . We got a pangkin just center of the road very nice to lepak n have a chat evening even late night .

With the new surau in the making my jalan sure hapenning heheehhe .
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post Jun 22 2012, 04:53 AM

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jun 21 2012, 03:14 PM)
Implementing and separating individual guard house for different phase is a headache task.... worry for those not coorperating and vacant units
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agree...there is always someone who sees the extra security as nonsense and waste of $$.. And you can't block them coming in really as it is still a public access entry point. So, it will takes some time & effort to see it thru...
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post Jun 22 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Xai-V-iaX @ Jun 21 2012, 04:53 PM)
...but isn't the guards by row already in the plan? I mean SD do provide the row-by-row guards initially right? or was it for the Fern Lane entrance only?  hmm.gif
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That's why a good long talk with orang kuat DARA is good for the history. SD did provide guards on lorong previously, but after some break-ins, they decided to put mobile guardhouses (as you can see now) at the entrances of each cluster of phases (not sure if you can this, sorry for my limited london blush.gif ). Initially guards were quite strict, registring movement of vehicles but some people maki hamun SD for the inconveniences. After that, guards just waved to everyone. Then we heard more break ins, then people thought it was better to have guards at lorong, nearer to houses instead of on the road. I have no idea of what happen after that. Anyway, I heard less break-in in old phases but some in the new ones.


Added on June 22, 2012, 10:47 am
QUOTE(numbertwo @ Jun 22 2012, 04:53 AM)
agree...there is always someone who sees the extra security as nonsense and waste of $$..  And you can't block them coming in really as it is still a public access entry point.   So, it will takes some time & effort to see it thru...
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Yup, this is always the problem. hard to get everyone to have the same thinking, unfortunately. blink.gif. And I believe the safest place in DA is around that datuk police's house;)

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post Jun 22 2012, 11:07 AM

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sorry out of topic, anybody know of any good cctv brands/vendor?

Wireless IP cctv better than conventional wired type?
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post Jun 22 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Kent3888 @ Jun 22 2012, 11:07 AM)
sorry out of topic, anybody know of any good cctv brands/vendor?

Wireless IP cctv better than conventional wired type?
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CCTV for home security? or Industrial? or Commercial?
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post Jun 22 2012, 11:53 PM

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Someone at the laman glenmarie 2 thread ask why denai aster grove sold out so quickly. Anyone knows the answer?

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I have been following the development of LG2 with great interest.
Considering the limited availability of land in the vicinity, i believe this FH landed property is a good buy, despite the price tag. Unfortunately the ratio is 70:30. I was there at the sales office, there are still quite a few bumi units left.

Now compare the recent LG2 launch (20-May) with the recent launch of Denai Alam's Aster Grove. Timing of launch about the same. Pricing wise it is close. LG2 slightly more ex (but negligible - both 800k plus). Size of DSL built up about the same. Plot size is same at 24x80. Denai Alam also 70:30 according to some sifu here.

Location and scarcity of land wise, i would think that LG2 is way better.
But Aster Grove units bumi or non-bumi all sold out within one day!
No balance units to purchase even for bumi.
If you go to LG2 sales office today, many bumi units are still available.
How come?

Can the sifus here do a comparison between the 2 and explain why?

Thanks.

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post Jun 23 2012, 01:54 AM

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Denai alam owners list
1) goldwish. J14 (aster grove)
2) Feezar25. J12 (MT)
3) faymeric J14 (aster grove)
4) rfm C3 (nerida)
5) Xai-V-iaX (fern lane)
6) Vedder (maple terrace)
7) Bert Rizal (Fern Lane)
8) harjeet87 (serissa)
9) SSS. (Fern Lane)
10) Kent3888 (serista)
11) henrychiah (lavender)
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post Jun 23 2012, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(goldwish @ Jun 22 2012, 11:53 PM)
Someone at the laman glenmarie 2 thread ask why denai aster grove sold out so quickly. Anyone knows the answer?
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given the choice, and if close proximity to KL/PJ isn't a criteria to me, I would have bought DA bumi unit ... LG2, the location of the site just doesn't feel like you are living in a pure residential area do you? I see more breathing space, greener fields, cleaner air, or even bigger moon when I am in DA.. btw.. for that matter, my malay neighbor once told me if given a choice he and his bunch of friends (professionals) would love to stay at some places that have those kampung feel, close knot relationship style of neighbourhood... and he is a specialist doc by profession!

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post Jun 23 2012, 05:06 AM

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QUOTE(goldwish @ Jun 22 2012, 11:53 PM)
Someone at the laman glenmarie 2 thread ask why denai aster grove sold out so quickly. Anyone knows the answer?
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LG is not township by itself.considering that before choose DA.But some of the super odd designed house kill me off.Location wise, LG more mature (home buyer friendly), DA more potential (investor+home buyer friendly).

Developer wise, SD just slightly (not so good though) better. ( always riding on the success story of BJ) + AG was launched during promotion campaign (low d/p,dibs,free spa etc) so its no brainer actually.

My 2 cent

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arowana33
post Jun 23 2012, 09:09 AM

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Maple is using,

"Employing cutting edge technology in construction using the Industrial Building System"

Is IBS better ?
Bert Rizal
post Jun 23 2012, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(goldwish @ Jun 22 2012, 11:53 PM)
Someone at the laman glenmarie 2 thread ask why denai aster grove sold out so quickly. Anyone knows the answer?
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SD better marketing n package.. Hahah..

I like Laman Glenmarie and Alam Impian too. But for some reason, DA gives me that kind of good feeling everytime I drive around with my family n kids there.. Most of my friends feel the same..
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post Jun 23 2012, 09:56 AM

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What happened to the old thread?
feezar25
post Jun 23 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(jeghui @ Jun 23 2012, 09:56 AM)
What happened to the old thread?
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Old TS not active anymore, so decide to open new one so we can keep update the current and future DA resident..Old thread is set as 'library' if anybody want to refer anything (hyperlink at the 1st page)


Added on June 23, 2012, 11:09 am
QUOTE(arowana33 @ Jun 23 2012, 09:09 AM)
Maple is using,

"Employing cutting edge technology in construction using the Industrial Building System"

Is IBS better ?
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To be honest, I dunno squat about that thing...haha.. biggrin.gif .I think its just a marketing gimmick. Couldnt find anything "IBS" in the SnP

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