i think jacqc is a sadist who lives a pathetic life

no, I think he should tell us himself.

I don't think he will tell us.....

erm.. lets say he is old enough to frequent prostitutes and sometimes give them money cause he feel pity for them and not pity for TS mum or any married women that is facing this issues. Hurray to humanity

He should not be afraid to.

He's not afraid to state his worldview openly, so why be afraid to let us know how old he is?

because he's afraid of us judging him mentally after he revealed his age. If too young, we might say he's too immature. Too old, then he's a sadist who experienced it before that's why all his comments are one sided just to protect himself.

this is an open forum where all our real identities are obscured.

what anyone thinks of me will be of no consequence, unless i am insecure and need their approval.

I say what i think is right and i will stand by it.

oh. so i guess i better start. Right?

I'm 51.

jayqc?

@TS : do you have any brother? (younger or older doesnt matter). about the ******* (no pun intended), is a boy or girl?


@others
regarding what jayqc said (didnt read all, only last 2 page) what he said did have some points. flame me all you want but remember this
1) a person dont change overnight. if he is a player now, he will be a player tomorrow, next week, next month, next year and so on.
2) unless it is arranged marriage, the mom did choose him herself. she should have known of his bad habit of sleeping with woman outside.

and no, im not saying its the mom fault. there is a lot of reason for someone to fling outside. ofc the majority of the reason is for fun

but judging from what ts said, the father is 57. so he is born in 1955. in other words, there is high chances that his dad still have old-fashioned thinking. this means that he always wanted a boy to inherit his *whatever fortune*. this is the main reason why i ask TS my 1st question.

yes, yes. before any pro biologist come in and said "its the male sperm that decide its male or female, not the ovum", i am aware of that. but good luck trying to convince people born in 1955 aka old fashioned about that. most of them do not believe it

Even if he tells us but it will be another lie for us . Some think he is old enough to talk and some think that he might be still a kid. For me, I think he is a very stubborn & ego guy. A person who makes himself right to cause other in suffering. He only care about his own feeling. This type of person is dangerous, be his friend he might push you to die, be his colleague he might step on you or be "Gold finger" as long as he got the benefits, others die just non of his business. For family, as for his replies. What's wrong with the men have an affair. He will indeed cares other woman who got his kid rather than his own family. He doesn't know how to weigh the right & wrong. He allows the guilt eaten him up. He can told us, 20 years of marriage. just blame the mom didn't wear a pair of eyes to meet the husband.

This post has been edited by cutiepooh: Jun 20 2012, 11:13 AM

There is no written law that binds a man onto taking responsibilities/consequences outside wedlock. Only subjected to social stigma and judgement. This is also the case where woman is discouraged to fool around. Because of social stigma and judgement. But, that's ONLY if anybody gives a f*ck about it. Looking at today's society, nobody gives a f*ck anymore. That's why everybody be the person MAN/WOMAN fool's around and yet complain about it.

Is that a bad thing or a good thing?

I doubt they will stay. Primary cause of breakdown will never be money. But, in most cases, secondary effects comes together in a tough situation will be. E.g. "no longer love me; no time for me, no longer buy me gifts; bad temper; don't pay much attention to me an etc" But you like it or not primary cause; he is not capable enough.

Until a woman marrying a man without judging his capabilities in providence; I think woman in general rank "capabilities" first before anything in identifying potential partner. I believe that china woman too.

I'm sure there are exceptional case where a garbage man marries a princess or vice versa. Until you are one yourself; I think it's best you keep your comment to yourself.

First, bolded. Then it's the wife's fault for picking one as husband. Vice versa.
Death penalty should be upon the person who breaks the marriage vows. Be it the husband or the wife. Gender equality.

@jayqc, If you are arguing on the ground of doing what's right for the situation. You have a few valid points. But a wrong action is still wrong regardless of number of people doing it. Just because everybody doing it doesn't make it right. It's just means there are more @sshole these days.

Wah..I give up, really give up, lol. Crazy fella in some funyn kinda world.

Every one will meet one, at least one person they love the most in their life and so do being hurt. There are only 2 genders in the world, just be ourselves. No good or bad but only mature or immature.

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Added on June 20, 2012, 11:34 am so fast give up jor....

This post has been edited by cutiepooh: Jun 20 2012, 11:34 AM

this is where a person refuses to change because he never learns and only think about himself and not the people around them. They can play, play all they want but do not crawl back and ask for support or forgiveness if unfortunate event falls upon him like kena STD? No one to blame but himself for misbehaving.


keyword : "refuse to change"
means he is already a player before he met the mother




Also, i stressed out before that human changes as they age. Her mum might not be aware of his habit of being a player before they got married. He could be under the influences of his peers/business partner if he's a person who socials loads and got addicted with this new fond habit of hugging more than 2 woman in his arms, as he felt FUN!


keyword "human changes"
now i am confuse. the father "refuse to change" or "change"? do you mean he is good at first, but he change when he go out with his colleague and refuse to change back to the way he was? if so, get the father to change back to the way he is. it should be fairly easy since according to you, he can change so easily. as for refuse to change, there's always a way to make it happen. you just need the bait. the bait will most probably be the main reason why he flings in the first place.
and no, hugging 2 woman is not the reason. by hugging 2 woman, it make him feel in control maybe? so why doesnt he feel that way at home?




If ur saying that why she forgave him once and not now, assumption could be done here that woman at her age (unlike our generation) would stick to a marriage even how broken it might seemed.

never said that. but it is easy to see if a guy is a player. you dont have to see how he flirts with woman to find out. obviously your bf/spouse/future spouse will not let you know that. but you can check from various other method, such as checking how fast he got bored of things. im not going to reveal too much here else the guys will bombard me with pm for giving out their weakness.



and i think you guys are missing the point here. i do not said the father is not at fault. he could or could not be at fault. no one knows unless the whole story is revealed. heck, for all we know maybe the mom also flirt outside. we will never know. so why focus on who is wrong?

i am not siding with anyone, just mentioning what i thought about the situation

This post has been edited by Frostlord: Jun 20 2012, 11:40 AM

I agreed with you for the point of a person refuses to change. This is very true also no matter what ages a person is ,3 or 80 it is still themselves.TS just doesn't know what to do right now to handle both parents without separating or to see anyone she loves go break-down, No? But come back to the reality, a stranger who gives opinion and thought 65/100 will give the 1st respond why the dad want to do this in the 1st place.

Yes I do agree with u that a single hand won't make a clap, same goes with marital failure. But there's a limit to everything. If a guy that refuses to stop fooling for his wife, please don't get married for the sake of the norm.

I look down on u, seriously...

or maybe I shouldn't judge u base on this comment..perhaps u r also from such a family? Poor kid...

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Added on June 20, 2012, 1:15 pmI think it's of no use even if u confront your dad, u can't ask him to leave the china lady and their baby...that will be not right as equally...(things like this happens a lot nowadays, China lady and local men...)

U can't change what had happened...As for your mom, not sure if u should spill the truth to her...

The only thing that u can do is to care more for your mom, let her know that no matter what happens, u will always be there for her and that u are on her side...

This post has been edited by catherinessc: Jun 20 2012, 01:15 PM

If that 35% comes from male majority. People! we have a major society problem and private investigators are in booming business.

2nd bolded, that's the first wrong. Leaving the china lady and the baby high and dry will be the 2nd wrong. I'm against this too.

I am 21.

sadist - someone who obtains pleasure from inflicting pain or others.

I hope you can reconsider the usage of the word on me. tq.

the highlighted points are indeed judgemental. In addition, I supporting others doesn't means I will follow their footsteps.

Ain't you judging me now?

This post has been edited by jayqc: Jun 20 2012, 02:09 PM

let's not further debate about this with a person like that. it will go on and on and on. Doesn't worth our time and energy now. No point arguing about something that doesn't seem to end.

it's always easier said than done.. wait till Jayqc taste his own medicine in the future.