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Spring problem? PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V24, "Drive so fast for what???" EDITION
PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V24, "Drive so fast for what???" EDITION
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Jun 22 2012, 05:36 PM
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Jun 22 2012, 06:09 PM
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For anyone interested. 5 mil tint, IRR 78%, 15 years warranty for RM 480.
http://www.groupon.my/deals/klang-valley-k...world/716143755 Coolworld seems to be a reputable outlet...I think. |
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Jun 22 2012, 06:37 PM
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yoyo everyone... just give a 500 deposit for a 2nd hand
blm... if go well july will get the car xDD 09year 50k mil manual |
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Jun 22 2012, 06:44 PM
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Jun 22 2012, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(dares @ Jun 22 2012, 06:09 PM) For anyone interested. 5 mil tint, IRR 78%, 15 years warranty for RM 480. IRR 78%...this is more worthedhttp://www.groupon.my/deals/klang-valley-k...world/716143755 Coolworld seems to be a reputable outlet...I think. that person who previously want tint...can get this Added on June 22, 2012, 6:55 pm QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Jun 22 2012, 12:19 PM) Actually I think Proton shud have put disc brake for SE. Cuz all proton 1.6 car also got 4 disc brake. Me no confidence to cucuk at highway cuz scared x sempat brake. haha....dn't worry laBut my colleague all praise say my FLX SE very 'Gaya'. Got one of my client claim the headlight looks like VW Polo. So, I'm still a happy customer the problem with drum brake isn't good braking or not..no issue its more to the handbrake part actually cuz its not as good as disc brake and after u constantly pull it, it will loosen..so u have to tighten it back and for the "peace of mind" part is that u never know when to service a drum brake unlike disc brake...u know perfectly when to change the brake pad...and when have problem, its easy to diagnose drum brake is a little more complicated...and its not as reliable as disc brake This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jun 22 2012, 06:55 PM |
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Jun 22 2012, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(forgot_86 @ Jun 22 2012, 12:19 PM) Actually I think Proton shud have put disc brake for SE. Cuz all proton 1.6 car also got 4 disc brake. Me no confidence to cucuk at highway cuz scared x sempat brake. Disc brake tak secengkam drum brake, all those drum brake tak makan is psychology. Ada orang sengaja modify S14 to drum brake for drift purpose. Disc brake GAYA is the truth, most people after installed disc brake belakang suddenly their brake peformance naik taraf because they felt good looking at it and BELIEVE its better to have disc brakes.But my colleague all praise say my FLX SE very 'Gaya'. Got one of my client claim the headlight looks like VW Polo. So, I'm still a happy customer For your information, if caliper punya piston oil seal keras, jam brake happened very often. Most of the time brake's wear & tear not balance both side. In the long run, if you not regularly service both side of the brakes, change brake pads, service caliper, you get more buang belakang. For drum brakes, when brake tak balance, all the mech do is adjust the side yang tak ketat. You may debate say why all standard vehicle came with front disc brakes(atleast all modern private cars) kalau tak cengkam? The reason is, disc brake allowed room for correction during emergency brake(tak jam brake like drum), also easier for ABS integration. Your brake servo got a brake fluid distribution that is specifically designed for your car to send 70% fluid to the front brake and 30% to the back. That is why you felt disc brake is more cengkam. In short, if your car came with rear drum brakes, its not a bad thing(provided the R&D has properly refine the weight/brake distribution). If you have a Persoga drum brake, change rear disc brake is not a major issue because you may "import" the brake cable as well. If you're GaGa.... Btw, the famous Apul Garage is clever enough to ADD a dish ON the drum brake hub, make an extra mounting for the caliper to made up your rear disc brake for GaGa. So you can continue to use the original henbrek cable. Therefore, Apul Garage new GaGa's rear disc brake modification is DUAL BRAKES at the back. When you step on pedal, pakei disc brake, when tarek henbrek, drum brake pakei Hope this clarifies p/s: An informative reading material QUOTE(mat79 @ Jun 22 2012, 12:27 PM) erm, sorry to interupt. I heard that somebody manage to solve the drum sound by driving using sat mode for 1 full tank. Then return back to cvt mode, sound disappear. Dunno whether coincident or not or its related to abs braking system work in tandem with engine braking in cvt, causing sensors pening. Maybe coz in full cvt engine braking is in infinite ratio, while sat fix ratio, almost same as normal at.Dunno what is the logic, but no harm done if trying. Interesting enough Still no news on vendors about that. If have one. Ill will update it. Sorry cant help much QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 22 2012, 12:31 PM) hahaha.. okay since tomorrow im going back ipoh.. i will try finish 1 full tank with SAT>. than i try change back with cvt.. apa apa i update details.. Another Ipoh kia?no harm to try.. MANA tau boleh! hahaha QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 22 2012, 02:03 PM) How to check those summons wor QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jun 22 2012, 06:37 PM) yoyo everyone... just give a 500 deposit for a 2nd hand Which 1 is that? The doctor's? blm... if go well july will get the car xDD 09year 50k mil manual Added on June 22, 2012, 7:02 pm QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 22 2012, 06:48 PM) haha....dn't worry la Partially agreed...but... You forgot to say:the problem with drum brake isn't good braking or not..no issue its more to the handbrake part actually cuz its not as good as disc brake and after u constantly pull it, it will loosen..so u have to tighten it back and for the "peace of mind" part is that u never know when to service a drum brake unlike disc brake...u know perfectly when to change the brake pad...and when have problem, its easy to diagnose drum brake is a little more complicated...and its not as reliable as disc brake 1) rear disc brake if cable loosen gotta tighten cable 2) drum brake can adjust back the brake level if brake pad nipis, but you'll have to bear with the reduced performance with disc brakes 3) if brake cylinder rosak, tukar 1 bijik+labor RM60, whereas caliper service kit is RM25 + labor RM35... abang adik. Drum brake less work, take out and replace, disc brake need to dismantle everything and put everything back together again. I'm also a rear disc brake worshiper. But not till the extend of spending money on something LESS effective than the stock setups. p/s: NOT denying disc brake is better, just not comfortable in modifying disc brakes to the originally equipped drum brakes This post has been edited by davidke20: Jun 22 2012, 07:19 PM |
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Jun 22 2012, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 22 2012, 07:01 PM) Partially agreed...but... You forgot to say: ya...i've no issue with drum brake braking performance actually1) rear disc brake if cable loosen gotta tighten cable 2) drum brake can adjust back the brake level if brake pad nipis, but you'll have to bear with the reduced performance with disc brakes 3) if brake cylinder rosak, tukar 1 bijik+labor RM60, whereas caliper service kit is RM25 + labor RM35... abang adik. Drum brake less work, take out and replace, disc brake need to dismantle everything and put everything back together again. I'm also a rear disc brake worshiper. But not till the extend of spending money on something LESS effective than the stock setups. p/s: NOT denying disc brake is better, just not comfortable in modifying disc brakes to the originally equipped drum brakes my issue with drum brake is that it has alot of small small problem...and quite hard to diagnose and quite pricey to fix compare to disc brake where u'll know perfectly which part to change and handbrake performance also not as good as disc brake...pulled 5 clicks also something still will slide back..but thanks god my car is auto and another issue is..because drum brake isn't as reliable as disc brake...most of the time, i dn't dare to pull that mucj handbrake on my BLM(at most 5 clicks, mostly 3 clicks only)...scare it will have problems whereas on my other car(rear disc brake)..every time i fully stop, i've no worry on pulling the handbrake...cuz i know it won't have any problems This post has been edited by MR_alien: Jun 22 2012, 07:32 PM |
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Jun 22 2012, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Jun 22 2012, 07:31 PM) ya...i've no issue with drum brake braking performance actually Read thismy issue with drum brake is that it has alot of small small problem...and quite hard to diagnose and quite pricey to fix compare to disc brake where u'll know perfectly which part to change and handbrake performance also not as good as disc brake...pulled 5 clicks also something still will slide back..but thanks god my car is auto and another issue is..because drum brake isn't as reliable as disc brake...most of the time, i dn't dare to pull that mucj handbrake on my BLM(at most 5 clicks, mostly 3 clicks only)...scare it will have problems whereas on my other car(rear disc brake)..every time i fully stop, i've no worry on pulling the handbrake...cuz i know it won't have any problems QUOTE So if disc brakes are so marvellous, why are drum brakes still around? Well, disc brakes work only through hydraulics, which make them very tricky to use for hand brakes (that's 'emergency' brakes to Americans.) If you try to clamp a disc brake, as it cools down after use the disc gets slightly smaller, which means the car has to gradually increase the amount of force on the brakes to keep the car still. This is a tricker - and therefore more expensive - job than it sounds, whereas a drum brake can be held on by a cable, and usually are. Henbrek on disc brakes is/was/will never be better than drumsMany modern cars, e.g. the VW Touran, still come with front disc brakes and rear drum brakes, and some sports cars still have a small drum brake attached to the rear brakes to act as the handbrake, although they have rear discs for the most efficient braking. If you own an aircooled Volkswagen, please rest assured that if your car came with all-round drum brakes then they are good enough to stop it within current safety distances. My Beetle only has drums, and when properly adjusted they stop the car better than a poorly maintained car with discs. However, if you're fitting bigger, non-standard engines I'd look at fitting disc brakes, either from a donor VW or using an after-market kit. Speed is great, but stopping yourself before becoming an accident is even better. This post has been edited by davidke20: Jun 22 2012, 07:38 PM |
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Jun 22 2012, 07:48 PM
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Jun 22 2012, 07:59 PM
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Jun 22 2012, 08:06 PM
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I think the hybrid rear brake had been used on a couple of cars. Those Skylines featuring 4-pot front brakes and 2-pot rear brakes have the disc brakes for braking function, and a inner drum brake+hub to serve as the handbrake. Mitsubishi Evolutions that comes with standard Brembo(4-pot front and 2-pot rear) also have this hybrid setup.
Not sure what other cars feature it but it's not that uncommon especially for multi-pot brakes. Added on June 22, 2012, 8:06 pm QUOTE(banoriginal @ Jun 22 2012, 08:04 PM) FC = Fuel ConsumptionThis post has been edited by GRexer: Jun 22 2012, 08:06 PM |
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Jun 22 2012, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 22 2012, 07:37 PM) IMO, my experience toward rear disc brake on handbrake is still better than drum brakeand 1st line said if disc brake is so good, why are drum brake still around answer is very easy actually...becuz its cheap to install meaning its cheap for car manufacturer to put into their car, but it isn't as cheap for us driver to maintain it while disc brake is more expensive but cheaper and easier for us to maintain thats why saga and persona dn't have rear disc brake..only persona H-line, preve and Upward have rear disc brake |
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Jun 22 2012, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jun 22 2012, 07:01 PM) Here ==> http://portal.jpj.gov.my/index.php?option=...r&Itemid=19?=msGood Luck, Bro!! |
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Jun 22 2012, 09:05 PM
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oiii... the engine got TAK TAK TAK TAK sound is iafm problem? juz notice while changing open pod juz now...
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Jun 22 2012, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 22 2012, 08:33 PM) ![]() People say, even if you don't have anything better to do also dun go check summon. For so many years I drive like a moron, every year go renew roadtax for all my cars/driving license without checking my summon, and for the 1st time I check... Funny thing is, PDRM had logged my IP address. So, does it mean every household with an IP also entitled at least a piece of summon? This post has been edited by davidke20: Jun 22 2012, 10:21 PM |
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 22 2012, 08:33 PM) which web did u check yours with?becuz this is for blacklist only |
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