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 Nokia 808 - V02 - [The King of Camera Phones], PUREVIEW - The Legend of Camera Phone!!!

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post Sep 5 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(abafamny_90 @ Sep 5 2012, 10:38 AM)
what? dats it? pfft. those star ratings are so misleading.  mad.gif
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nah i mean other platform one... not this, but i think same concept haha sweat.gif
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post Sep 5 2012, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Sep 5 2012, 12:55 AM)
another comparison between PV808 and Nikon J1.

tried my best to match the 808 with the J1 which captured the actual color temperature from what i saw in person. i believe i pretty much nailed the color of the sushi but ended up with green mayonnaise and green plate. after spending quite a bit of time fiddling the color, i gave up. yes, wrong focus point of the J1, while 808 got it right and easy by tapping the finger on the desire spot, and clearly shows me as an incompetent photographer. but the color? i only have a choice of the AWB, or cloudy WB which much too orangey and impossible to recover. and those are the only 2 shots i made and ended up keeping it back inside my pocket as a phone... sweat.gif
u say u used LR? why not just edit the 808 OOC pic?
this is just a quick one.
more can be done if u want to spend time on it, slowly dodging / burning / more color balancing etc to prevent any blown outs.
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here's the same pic thats been sent thru a shareware called neat image to smoothen out the noise.
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post Sep 5 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 5 2012, 10:59 AM)
u say u used LR? why not just edit the 808 OOC pic?
this is just a quick one.
more can be done if u want to spend time on it, slowly dodging / burning / more color balancing etc to prevent any blown outs.
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actually the OOC picture is the "before" of the "after" i posted - cropped out the right empty portion so it looks different.

i can see you taken out quite a lot of green so the outcome looked so much more reddish. i'm more concern of the overall colors whether they're "intact" from all R/G/B channels - white balance is one thing but it doesn't seems to capture a more complete colors. talking about white balance - how can a camera mistaken that strong yellowish lighting? doh.gif

i still love the details captured, and it has very good dynamic range too, very good for outdoor shots. but once the lightings get dimmer and complicated, the color processing really start to get funky at times. not something Nokia can't fix though but if that's the best they can do i must say the 808 isn't a "complete" revolution. the first thing when people look at the photo is the subject and closely followed by colors, then only start pixel peep...
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post Sep 5 2012, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(little ice @ Sep 5 2012, 01:03 PM)
actually the OOC picture is the "before" of the "after" i posted - cropped out the right empty portion so it looks different.

i can see you taken out quite a lot of green so the outcome looked so much more reddish. i'm more concern of the overall colors whether they're "intact" from all R/G/B channels - white balance is one thing but it doesn't seems to capture a more complete colors. talking about white balance - how can a camera mistaken that strong yellowish lighting? doh.gif

i still love the details captured, and it has very good dynamic range too, very good for outdoor shots. but once the lightings get dimmer and complicated, the color processing really start to get funky at times. not something Nokia can't fix though but if that's the best they can do i must say the 808 isn't a "complete" revolution. the first thing when people look at the photo is the subject and closely followed by colors, then only start pixel peep...
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agreed! colors in 808 sometimes can be blue-ish. with the limited WB options you can't seem to get yellow/orange-ish scenery it correctly though tongue.gif
but 808 got a very good dynamic range and it is awesome! despite the fish-eyed lens effect doh.gif
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post Sep 5 2012, 02:04 PM

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Hibiscus-Crops by Nokia 808PV by eidda808, on Flickr
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QUOTE(little ice @ Sep 5 2012, 12:03 PM)
actually the OOC picture is the "before" of the "after" i posted - cropped out the right empty portion so it looks different.

i can see you taken out quite a lot of green so the outcome looked so much more reddish. i'm more concern of the overall colors whether they're "intact" from all R/G/B channels - white balance is one thing but it doesn't seems to capture a more complete colors. talking about white balance - how can a camera mistaken that strong yellowish lighting? doh.gif

i still love the details captured, and it has very good dynamic range too, very good for outdoor shots. but once the lightings get dimmer and complicated, the color processing really start to get funky at times. not something Nokia can't fix though but if that's the best they can do i must say the 808 isn't a "complete" revolution. the first thing when people look at the photo is the subject and closely followed by colors, then only start pixel peep...
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actually i didnt touch green...just boosted red abit.
u can also boost contrast to make it look better...but for that pic it would've blown out some parts of the fish...which is why it needs time to do quite abit of individual selections which i wasnt bothered to do.
here's what it would look like if did the above, can see parts of the fish got blown cos im lazy tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 5 2012, 03:14 PM)
actually i didnt touch green...just boosted red abit.
u can also boost contrast to make it look better...but for that pic it would've blown out some parts of the fish...which is why it needs time to do quite abit of individual selections which i wasnt bothered to do.
here's what it would look like if did the above, can see parts of the fish got blown cos im lazy tongue.gif
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i appreciate you took the time and effort to demonstrate what you were doing. i strongly believe things can be done with detailed editing but as the very last part of your post suggested - much effort is needed to edit the colors, to me i might as well spend some money on a camera that capture everything properly right from the start to begin with. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(little ice @ Sep 5 2012, 03:37 PM)
i appreciate you took the time and effort to demonstrate what you were doing. i strongly believe things can be done with detailed editing but as the very last part of your post suggested - much effort is needed to edit the colors, to me i might as well spend some money on a camera that capture everything properly right from the start to begin with. biggrin.gif
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no time use also, at most 1min tongue.gif

depending on the situation, not many cameras can get it right, thats why proper lighting is used.

anyway, spam more...
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post Sep 5 2012, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 5 2012, 03:41 PM)
no time use also, at most 1min tongue.gif

depending on the situation, not many cameras can get it right, thats why proper lighting is used.

anyway, spam more...
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find the black guy game? i saw slender man there shocking.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 5 2012, 04:04 PM)
find the black guy game? i saw slender man there  shocking.gif
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whats a black guy game? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Sep 5 2012, 04:09 PM)
whats a black guy game? tongue.gif
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this kind of meme
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oh that kinda stuff...mine is natural tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Sep 5 2012, 10:34 AM)
forget who tell me before actually the trick of scaning fingerprint is the  "time duration of putting your finger on screen"  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(abafamny_90 @ Sep 5 2012, 10:38 AM)
what? dats it? pfft. those star ratings are so misleading.  mad.gif
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Ya agito is right. Do you seriously think your phone touch sensors are sensitive enough to detect the minute details of your thumbprint? biggrin.gif
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http://www.nokia.com/global/products/phone/lumia920/

lumia 920 with pureview official
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:27 PM

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8mp pureview..better put 8mp only..
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post Sep 5 2012, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(eidda @ Sep 5 2012, 11:27 PM)
8mp pureview..better put 8mp only..
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i watching the live feed.

Its actually quite amazing better low light performance, There this movable bearing lens something so in video recording it acts like a stablizer.

They show S3 vs Lumia 920 video recording.

The 920 less shake. And also a longer shutter allowing more light. In a way its better than 808 pureview

808 just got pawned in a way except for megapixels and lossless zoom


I bet there are many unhappy Lumia 800 and 900 users

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8.7mp with dual LED. not xenon like 808
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lol... puny 8MP... doh.gif


Added on September 5, 2012, 11:37 pmwe don't want good... we want BEST!! lol


Added on September 5, 2012, 11:39 pmsome more pity closing note seem more like begging note... whistling.gif

Closing words from Elop. "Ladies and gentlemen it's time to switch to Lumia." (or i will lose my job) rolleyes.gif


Added on September 5, 2012, 11:43 pmI bet there would be LOTS of freebies come along with the sale package as only minor new things within the L920... hmm.gif

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/05/lumia-9...-whats-changed/

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Sep 5 2012, 11:29 PM)
i watching the live feed.

Its actually quite amazing better low light performance, There this movable bearing lens something so in video recording it acts like a stablizer.

They show S3 vs Lumia 920 video recording.

The 920 less shake. And also a longer shutter allowing more light. In a way its better than 808 pureview

808 just got pawned in a way except for megapixels and lossless zoom
I bet there are many unhappy Lumia 800 and 900 users
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did u mean lumia 920 can take pic better than 808..
got any link i can see example pic taken from lumia 920.
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QUOTE(eidda @ Sep 5 2012, 11:45 PM)
did u mean lumia 920 can take pic better than 808..
got any link i can see example pic taken from lumia 920.
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They did show at the presentation but not side by side comparison.

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