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limeuu
post Aug 22 2012, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Aug 22 2012, 01:15 PM)
Sounds promising, particularly the "eligible for provisional registration as a doctor..........UK General Medical Council"

In the spirit of "anyone can be a doctor", there's also this:

http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/08/01/go.../#ixzz22GskatOI
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these students should at least be above average.....at least as far as their pre-u results is concerned...(4.0 in matrik however doesn't say too much, as about 10% of matrik students get that, ie it's just atar90 and above.....)

and it's a lifeline to the new med schools, which are facing dropping enrolment due to stricter selection criteria imposed by mmc....

as for numed, i don't quite understand the dean's logic on how this establishment will reduce the brain drain.....if students are allowed provisional registration with the gmc, it means they can also apply for fy.....and i foresee the majority will (except perhaps the scholars)....

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post Aug 23 2012, 06:22 PM

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See Requirement 4 re MCAT - am I understanding it correctly, that one will be accepted and then sits for the MCAT? It is just a formality?

http://perdanauniversity.edu.my/pugsom/adm...sions-criteria/

Wonder what the numbers are like for the first batch.
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post Aug 23 2012, 10:26 PM

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why are they so vague about their requirements?....even for ielts and toefl and muet, they refused to clearly state their requirements.....

what does 'successful passage' of these tests mean?.....muet band 1, ielts band 1 acceptable?.....

they are certainly leaving the door open for 'individual adjustments' by not making a stand on what they want....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 23 2012, 10:26 PM)
why are they so vague about their requirements?....even for ielts and toefl and muet, they refused to clearly state their requirements.....

what does 'successful passage' of these tests mean?.....muet band 1, ielts band 1 acceptable?.....

they are certainly leaving the door open for 'individual adjustments' by not making a stand on what they want....
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i dont think u can go anywhere with muet band 1 in malaysia, at least in govt uni...
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post Aug 23 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(kurangak @ Aug 23 2012, 10:55 PM)
i dont think u can go anywhere with muet band 1 in malaysia, at least in govt uni...
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you obviously do not know that many 'govt uni', or ipta, does NOT need muet for admission....and only need muet band 1 to graduate their students.....

but that's beside the point....band 1 is also 'successful passage' through muet....because there is NO pass or fail band in these exams....

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I thought medic students require a higher muet band to graduate. If a medic graduate can't get band 4, he should not be there in the first place.

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 23 2012, 10:59 PM)
you obviously do not know that many 'govt uni', or ipta, does NOT need muet for admission....and only need muet band 1 to graduate their students.....

but that's beside the point....band 1 is also 'successful passage' through muet....because there is NO pass or fail band in these exams....
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orly? last time i check, eng. course, law course, meds, n all high value cost needs at least band 3/4 in order to qualify to take the course...

din know that band one is more than enough to get admission... hmm...
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QUOTE(kurangak @ Aug 24 2012, 03:44 AM)
orly? last time i check, eng. course, law course, meds, n all high value cost needs at least band 3/4 in order to qualify to take the course...

din know that band one is more than enough to get admission... hmm...
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At least you have Band (whatever band) to get admission into govt uni.... rclxms.gif
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Not too late to apply for Numed's September 2012 intake! One of the options available for those who did not meet their conditional offers for the 2012 UCAS cycle.


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Maxis being coerced as well, it seems.
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wow....they are desperate.....enrolment must be dismal.....

and the big selling point?....'opportunity for periods of study in the uk'.....
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 27 2012, 10:06 AM)
wow....they are desperate.....enrolment must be dismal.....

and the big selling point?....'opportunity for periods of study in the uk'.....
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So it's just an "opportunity", ie a chance or possibility, not really a certainty. This is already a caveat.
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afaik, there is no provision in the programme for any attachment in the uk, unlike monash's where there is a mandated 3-4 months attachment in melbourne to ensure students are familiar with the aussie healthcare system....

but i suppose it is possible to do some kind of short term exchange to newcastle upon tyne.....

but it must be quite a shock for unewcastle to experience lack of suitable students....when they have abundant excellent students to choose at will in the uk....
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Looks like this year, fewer students going to UK to do med.

Could be failure to secure places or JPA won't sponsor any for this year.

Many are heading to India. (From relative contacts)
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know of a person on scholarship going to QMU doing dent.
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Why are some consultant surgeons being addressed as "Mr" instead of "Dr"? Female consultant surgeons are therefore Ms/Mrs/Madam?

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Why are some consultant surgeons being addressed as "Mr" instead of "Dr"? Female consultant surgeons are therefore Ms/Mrs/Madam?
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because historical barber-surgeons were not considered doctors, and called mr. by the physicians... smile.gif

the barber surgeon colleges dates back centuries, the first being the rcs edinburgh, given the royal charter by king james in 1505 (not kidding)....

for the first 3+ centuries they were not considered doctors by the physicians of the day, and the term mr. used, in a condescending way.....

when formal medical education was established to include surgery, in the 19th century, the usage of mr. persist for barber surgeon fellows.....

it is still used in the british isles and ireland, and some commonwealth countries.....

it's use is traditionally restricted to fellows of the 4 historical barber-surgeon colleges, ie edinburgh, england, glasgow and ireland...but the australiasian college has also adopted the practice...

there is reverse snobbery now, as surgeons proudly use that title as a badge of honour that they are 'higher' than mere doctors! biggrin.gif

however, ironically, in msia, masters graduates in surgery from local unis (um/ukm/usm) have used that title, although it is inappropriate, as they are not fellows of the barber-surgeons.....you know, tumpang glamour a bit... smile.gif
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 27 2012, 06:20 PM)
because historical barber-surgeons were not considered doctors, and called mr. by the physicians... smile.gif

the barber surgeon colleges dates back centuries, the first being the rcs edinburgh, given the royal charter by king james in 1505 (not kidding)....

for the first 3+ centuries they were not considered doctors by the physicians of the day, and the term mr. used, in a condescending way.....

when formal medical education was established to include surgery, in the 19th century, the usage of mr. persist for barber surgeon fellows.....

it is still used in the british isles and ireland, and some commonwealth countries.....

it's use is traditionally restricted to fellows of the 4 historical barber-surgeon colleges, ie edinburgh, england, glasgow and ireland...but the australiasian college has also adopted the practice...

there is reverse snobbery now, as surgeons proudly use that title as a badge of honour that they are 'higher' than mere doctors! biggrin.gif

however, ironically, in msia, masters graduates in surgery from local unis (um/ukm/usm) have used that title, although it is inappropriate, as they are not fellows of the barber-surgeons.....you know, tumpang glamour a bit... smile.gif
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LOL @ tumpang glamour!!

So this term dates back centuries. Good to know, thanks!
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in public hospitals like HKL surgeons and consultants are still being called Mr...
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QUOTE(zstan @ Aug 27 2012, 08:56 PM)
in public hospitals like HKL surgeons and consultants are still being called Mr...
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only if they are fellows of the ancient barber-surgeon colleges....the others should NOT be using that title.....

i usually pointedly call them dr. xxx instead of mr. xxx..... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Aug 27 2012, 10:05 PM)
only if they are fellows of the ancient barber-surgeon colleges....the others should NOT be using that title.....

i usually pointedly call them dr. xxx instead of mr. xxx..... biggrin.gif
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Am I addressing T's surgeon correctly, then? tongue.gif

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