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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V23 - Dead or Alive!

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post Jun 6 2012, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 6 2012, 03:05 PM)
blue sticker on headlamp = illegal
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i thought u dont care about legal and illegal wan~!!! icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 6 2012, 03:23 PM

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loud exhaust also illegal leh... icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 03:24 PM

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anyone changed their Saga rear/front speaker?
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post Jun 6 2012, 03:28 PM

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Yes.
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post Jun 6 2012, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 6 2012, 03:28 PM)
Yes.
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which speaker you using now? the low frequency bass nicer than stock?
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post Jun 6 2012, 03:30 PM

 
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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 6 2012, 03:24 PM)
anyone changed their Saga rear/front speaker?
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Speaking of front speakers, Saga ones are almost non existent sweat.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(ka_one2000 @ Jun 6 2012, 01:32 PM)
Hi Zeone, do your paint or apply sticker in the third picture (black color bumper) and how much? thanks.
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Hi Bro....
Yup, dat part of bumper is spray-painted...DIY... rolleyes.gif tongue.gif


Added on June 6, 2012, 3:32 pm
QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 6 2012, 03:30 PM)
Speaking of front speakers, Saga ones are almost non existent  sweat.gif
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Izzit? whistling.gif
Me adjusted Fader in HU so front slightly louder than rear... icon_idea.gif

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post Jun 6 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Jun 6 2012, 03:30 PM)
Speaking of front speakers, Saga ones are almost non existent  sweat.gif
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any suggestion ? biggrin.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 6 2012, 03:29 PM)
which speaker you using now? the low frequency bass nicer than stock?
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I use subwoofer @ trunk as well wo.. unsure.gif

Anyway, want nice bass especially for front, u need to apply dampening material. Else even the expensive speaker diaphragm move like mad also no use, because u will hear vibration of plastic door trim and metal part inside.
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QUOTE(zeone @ Jun 6 2012, 03:30 PM)
Me adjusted Fader in HU so front slightly louder rear... icon_idea.gif
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yeah, same here, i adjust the HU fader to FRONT 1, allow the front speaker louder laugh.gif


Added on June 6, 2012, 3:37 pm
QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 6 2012, 03:33 PM)
I use subwoofer @ trunk as well wo.. unsure.gif

Anyway, want nice bass especially for front, u need to apply dampening material. Else even the expensive speaker diaphragm move like mad also no use, because u will hear vibration of plastic door trim and metal part inside.
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i don't play with expensive speaker, just prefer some nicer speaker which can take better bass.. the current stock speaker seem like cannot take lower frequency for example 'Justin Bieber - Boyfriend', the bass seem too stiff and the speaker can't take it sweat.gif but my dad's persona car stock speaker and HU seem ok with it...
wondering which one caused it, speaker or HU? hmm.gif

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post Jun 6 2012, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 6 2012, 03:33 PM)
yeah, same here, i adjust the HU fader to FRONT 1, allow the front speaker louder  laugh.gif


Added on June 6, 2012, 3:37 pm
i don't play with expensive speaker, just prefer some nicer speaker which can take better bass.. the current stock speaker seem like cannot take lower frequency for example 'Justin Bieber - Boyfriend', the bass seem too stiff and the speaker can't take it  sweat.gif  but my dad's persona car stock speaker and HU seem ok with it...
wondering which one caused it, speaker or HU?  hmm.gif
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Speaker is the device that produce sound. So what u hear is sound, means from speaker. So speaker determine the most. Under same player, same place (in this case, front door), change speaker alone can make a big different, in high and mid range (vocal), but not necessary in bass, why?

For deep/soft bass (those thumbing bass), 1st condition you must have a large room even ur speaker is small. 2nd condition the room wall must be rigid. So the front door actually can't fulfill these 2 condition. Because the door metal is flex, when bass hit, the metal will vibrate/flex @ the same frequency as bass, so eventually cancel out each other. Furthermore our saga door thickness is thin only, not enough room for those low frequency reflection. So what u can do is only improve the condition, in this case by dampening material, which make the door panel become rigid and less movement when bass hit, so the bass will be back. Even stock speaker also will give u stronger bass. If u need those soft/deep low, the only thing u can do is by subwoofer only.

Our Saga main advantage over 'bootless' car is, our trunk act as a big speaker box the reflect the bass to the front. Without subwoofer, if u put the same speaker @ rear and front with same bass setting, actually u can hear how deep the bass can produced by rear speaker.

Speaker unit alone without any enclosure/cabinet will not hear any bass even the very big diaphragm is move like mad men, you can do this simple test your own.

The main point of above crap:
1. Need soft/low note bass, subwoofer is the only way to go.
2. Want stronger bass with stock player and speaker, u need dampening.
3. Change speaker alone might change the sound signature alot (vocal and highs, as this region fill the most in audible spectrum), but not necessary bass.
4. Change HU alone without changing stock speaker is = waste money.
5. You can change speaker to try 1st.
6. ICE is expensive, spend wisely.

No sifu teach me, just my self explore in this item these years (through my own setup and google). Some of it could be wrong, and i know what is the best sound i want, honestly not my current crap setup, becos no money.

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post Jun 6 2012, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 6 2012, 04:14 PM)
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ok got it.. i confident with the stock HU actually, because it could produce rich bass for most music.. but sometime it fail to beat the bass at certain frequency, so i think mostly caused by the stock speaker.

i was thinking to change to some budget speaker which can better than the stock one, how bout the 2-way Pioneer or Sony speaker currently sell at Mudah.com (price around RM 88 to RM 150) ? hmm.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Jun 6 2012, 03:23 PM)
loud exhaust also illegal leh... icon_idea.gif
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my exhaust silent one

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even JPJ block me what can they do? I can only rev to 2,500rpm on N

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post Jun 6 2012, 04:22 PM

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i didn't open the volume loud, just as long it could produce all frequency well will do.. normally listen to music at Volume between 10 to 14... (stock HU)
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post Jun 6 2012, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 6 2012, 03:33 PM)
yeah, same here, i adjust the HU fader to FRONT 1, allow the front speaker louder  laugh.gif


Added on June 6, 2012, 3:37 pm
i don't play with expensive speaker, just prefer some nicer speaker which can take better bass.. the current stock speaker seem like cannot take lower frequency for example 'Justin Bieber - Boyfriend', the bass seem too stiff and the speaker can't take it  sweat.gif  but my dad's persona car stock speaker and HU seem ok with it...
wondering which one caused it, speaker or HU?  hmm.gif
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justin bieber fan yaw!!! ..

for sound system if you really budget just add on tweeter infront enough already.. change the speaker if HU still lowya tak guna .. hahaha...

i envy with my mom exora the player got bluetooth so can link with my phone.. flx se takde pulaaaaaaaaaaaaa

3 days after use petronas semi EO .. feel very diff from shell..

i plan to tinted back mirror 90% .. just behind.. cause when you driving night time.. some auntie uncle.. father mother.. dont know how to use the head lamp...
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post Jun 6 2012, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Jun 6 2012, 04:22 PM)
my exhaust silent one

ph34r.gif

even JPJ block me what can they do? I can only rev to 2,500rpm on N

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ph34r.gifph34r.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 04:29 PM

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hihi is me again after hide silently in this thread ph34r.gif
need advice for tinted stuff, my blm original tint planning to replace it...
during day time, feel like no tint at all.
sumore gf bising:"y ur car so bright, mata sakit lar!" sweat.gif

oh i mean wat tint is recommended? i saw thread saying agard595 is nice???

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post Jun 6 2012, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jun 6 2012, 04:23 PM)
justin bieber fan yaw!!! ..
for sound system if you really budget just add on tweeter infront enough already..
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i'm not justin fan btw... sweat.gif
just take his song as example.
i don't like to install any visible add on such as tweeter, change speaker enough for me tongue.gif

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 6 2012, 04:29 PM)
hihi is me again after hide silently in this thread ph34r.gif
need advice for tinted stuff, my blm original tint planning to replace it...
during day time, feel like no tint at all.
sumore gf bising:"y ur car so bright, mata sakit lar!"  sweat.gif
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you should provide her sunglasses next time... laugh.gif


Added on June 6, 2012, 4:37 pmi was thinking to change my stock speaker to either this :

Pioneer RM138

Sony XPlod RM95

btw, what is our rear & door speaker dimension? sweat.gif

This post has been edited by gogoman86: Jun 6 2012, 04:37 PM
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post Jun 6 2012, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(gogoman86 @ Jun 6 2012, 05:33 PM)
i'm not justin fan btw...  sweat.gif
just take his song as example.
i don't like to install any visible add on such as tweeter, change speaker enough for me  tongue.gif
you should provide her sunglasses next time...  laugh.gif
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that is true. biggrin.gif

a lot of car tinted brand.. solar tint shop, v-kool... i don't know which is better, but, for sure, better have than no tinted at all...

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Jun 6 2012, 04:29 PM)
hihi is me again after hide silently in this thread ph34r.gif
need advice for tinted stuff, my blm original tint planning to replace it...
during day time, feel like no tint at all.
sumore gf bising:"y ur car so bright, mata sakit lar!"  sweat.gif

oh i mean wat tint is recommended? i saw thread saying agard595 is nice???
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Want so dark do what? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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