Dear all forumers,

Recently ive been doing some research on the condominiums at Mont Kiara & Hartamas Area. The prices are softening at the moment.

But it's very hard to find a particular unit which is best due to the enormous amount of choices available.

Have been through several onsite visits, as follows:

1) Hijauan (very dense consider the amount of units on such a small piece of land, lifts are surprisingly small and the noise level is bad)

2)MK10 (beautiful layout and great amenities provided, but view might be block by some development nearby, not to mention the air flow of the unit is bad due to the lack of openings of window.)

3)MK11 (dislike the circular layout of the unit, hence, you cant really utilize the space to the max, noise level is really high as well)

As for
4)MK28 (currently still under construction)
from the show gallery and the layout plan, it looks really nice, its in square in shape and the layout is very much utilize.
Just that the fear for noise level due to the nearby highway.

Like i said before, there are many more choices of condo out there in Mont Kiara & Hartamas. It will be great if you all could share your experience or opinion, on which you think is best for a household.
A quiet and modern living household.

Your views and opinions are very much appreciated.

Thank you

MK/hartamas always the top living place for me...

if budget unlimited, i will chose Seni, high floor unit with unblock view for KLCC, KL tower, new istana....

This post has been edited by doomdoom: May 17 2012, 02:40 PM

If compare with current new launch around klang valley, I think MK/hartamas price is quite competitive, no?

LawrenZza what's your objective? Own stay alone, family? Investment for rental? Flipping?

yup, the new launch at other area make the subsale unit at MK/hartamas looks quite cheap...

but ppl like the newer factor, and some ppl might think, wht so special and good about MK/hartamas...

How much u budget

Read on the newspaper the Indian High Commission will moved to MK1, the building at the entrance of Jalan Kiara leading to all the condos, I wonder will this create chaos for the already terrible traffic there?

If you're looking at MK10 & MK11, then your budget must be >rm2M. You're looking at the top-of-line condos then, which apart from the ones you've listed above, you can take a look at Sunway Vivaldi, Seni, maybe Lumina Kiara duplexes. Not really "enormous choices"
Other condos I don't know but I doubt MK10 prices are softening though.

Best is seni.. Unless u sunrise fan

oh ya... been to seni as well.. the view i got to say it's very very nice indeed. but still the noise disturbance is very terrible.
which makes the balcony totally useless, what's the point when u open the balcony to direct some air flow into the building but with the constant noise from the highway, it's just a major turn off.

trying to look for one more quiet unit with modern design living.

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Added on May 17, 2012, 5:44 pmLooking a more quiet unit and decent environment for family. as you know condo are very much affected by the management operator and the community who lives in it.

This post has been edited by LawrenZza: May 17 2012, 05:44 PM

compared to recent lauch, sub-sales Mont Kiara look cheaps!

i visit the actual unit at seni before, the highrise all facing highway, very very noisy. personally i prefer mk10 facing pool, nice landscape.
kiaramas danai is quite nice too, private lift lobby, layout for the 2500sf is nice.

My point of view, if investment = dead. If own stay = ok..

MK is slowly turning into an own stay consideration for many. For about a year now I've seen a few people who decided to consider MK for themselves - either immediate or long term future. Like most of you mentioned, the price is very close to new launches in places much much further outside the city.

I myself am looking for something for long term own stay but budget and expectations haven't met each other yet

Yup,Mk and hartamas slowly become a place for local own stay, not very good place for invest , but lots of expat especially those come with family will still like Mk due to internationl school and all the amenties around.....

not entirely true if you managed to korek one of the forumer here which mentioned he got his unit for 400k with 2,500 rental

did you also try kiaraville next to seni? good location. they also have big size units with quite attractive price compare to seni. some of the big units even have 4 car parks.

MK investment is not dead lah. MK is mostly subsale play now. Thats why flippers not so keen as initial outlay is steep with stamp duty and no DIBS play. On the other hand, MK gives decent rental return and high-end tenants. Its mostly rental play. Too slow for the flippers.

The low rise blocks have units facing the swimming pool. I think the noise level is acceptable in those units.

Which affordable condos in MK good for rental play? Laman suria?

those are units are ok. i think it is better than seni as open space between swimming pool are further. moreover price is cheaper psf. however seni has bigger swimming pool and larger. it will be up to personal preference.

mk10 unit is big. >3000sf. air flow bad probably due to depth of window to edge of wall was too far apart hence somewhat similiar to bad office syndrome. did you notice how dark it is even during the day once you enter the unit? foo far from the window.
if you don't mind oldies, try survey damai lor. one of the older one but at least all surrounding has already been cast in stone. no need worry about views being blocked anymore. this one i rate it oldie but goldie. kekeke. good luck!

Heard my colleague said, there is another raped case in bangsar recently, and threaten for money otherwise will be worldwide.

Laman Suria's occupancy rate seems to be pretty high compared to the average MK occupancy.

Another interesting one is the rather large but not so good looking Vista Kiara (next to Laman Suria). The selling price is lower than Laman Suria (it's not sunrise so I guess maintenance isn't the same) but the rental rates are comparable to Laman Suria.

Although its not in MK / Hartamas but its pretty darn close... I'd say The Maple at Sentul West is a great option for own stay.

Sophia, Puncak Prima, vista kiara, solaris dutamas. Which is better for investment?

Laman Suria can fetch up to 3.5k right? It's really good rental however the outlook is very run down...

A lot of condo in mk can fetch 3.5k. But rental yield against initial investment whether is worth or not.

Laman Suria is not very expensive, it's about 500k but with 3.5k rental, it's giving a decent yield but its look very run down...

If 3.5k to 4 k, a lot of units can choose from at mk namely pelangi, Astana, angkupuri and etc...laman suria is a bit run down and only advantage is very very near to plaza mk and one mk oh.

But among these condos, Laman Suria is still the cheapest...

yup.. prefer those along jalan kiara rather than jalan kiara 3 which laman suria located at, avoiding traffic from segambut dalam...

imho, condos along jalan kiara feels rather exclusive..

Which are the condos located along the Jalan Kiara?

please do some ground work or google, good luck..

Thanks for the kiaramas danai tip, i went and do some research on it.. it's completion date is somewhere around MAarch 2013.
It's initial launch price is very high compare to others subsale.
due to the mushrooms of sky-rise condominium within mont kiara, it is hard to get a unit with nice and undistributed view nowadays.
Anymore recommendation?

Subsales unit at Tiffani Kiara facing the superlink & bunglow (villa aseana & puncak kiara) are match your requirement, somemore facing south.

This post has been edited by zuiko407: May 19 2012, 03:22 PM

i highly recommend tiffani kiara
better than kiaramas series

Since they install the traffic light in front of 1MK the traffic has become worse on Jalan Kiara which really is no good! Best way to exit are those that are from Jln Kiara 2 intersection heading towards Dutamas side - reverse direction basically.

Btw Sunrise props have a pattern of painting after 10 years so might be a good idea to look at those condo's that are approaching 10 yrs but not yet paint

The traffic light is really shit, only for 1mk and izen residence, so selfish!

10yrs old....Sophia.....but as if it won't repainted because poor management

Is Verve Suites Block A worth to invest?

-Verve hard to rent (need to hold sometime only can rent out
- But now, rental yield is very low
- too expensive per sqf not really worth
- Located at segambut dalam entrace, not really attractive compared to those at jalan kiara

U seem like keep searching for condo at MK ......find any good 1 yet? or holding some good 1?

MK seems much more attainable since the price has boom so much in other part of KV..
agree segambut dalam entrance not attractive as many heavy vehicle moving in and out, road condition not as good as jalan kiara..
i was looking at laman suria due to attractive price, but now rather looking at bayu, pelangi and pines..

i would like to suggest, Sunway Palazzio, Sri Hartamas.
have you view unit there yet?

3 of my clients plan to purchase MK 10, Vivaldi and Seni
end up purchase Palazzio.

anyone here interested to view, can PM me.
or call 012 907 5901.

Thanks

Why poor management? Care to elaborate?

I think hartamas regency is good choice, eventhough is not mot kiara adrress, but located just middle in mont kiara, sri hartamas and dutamas, walking distance to solaris mk and dutamas, so near to future matrade development, hv unblock view of klcc view, and most important, not need jam in the jln kiara at peak hour when wan go to kl....

But the facade is one of the worst in whole MK area.

Not realtly ugly, quite unique since the theme is balinese style, looks like those resort in bali island, maybe not the modern look building, but with this price around 450psf, at stratergic location, i think is good buy...

Call up any agent go for viewing the u will know. Need to put in some effort.

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Added on May 20, 2012, 3:04 pmAgreed. Been looking into this hartamas regency as well..

This post has been edited by RomaNce: May 20 2012, 03:04 PM

IMHO, Seni is the best among the new condo....

Actually what is IMHO?

In My Humble Opinion

Ic ic.....

Havent view Vivaldi yet... But Seni, Hartamas Regency is a no no....

Btw, condo's by asia quest seems pretty good. any opinion?

asia quest more on resort style's design, also nice landscaping, good for own stay bcos low maintainance charges, average 23cents only and very seldom increase.

sounds interesting..... anymore development by asia quest at mont kiara, worth recommending?

Which is the ppty at mk by Asia quest? An hr ago, there is one 1280sqf unit at mk release for 600k and still able to go as low as 550k....

Kiaramas by asiaquest.
Which mk property 550k and 600k?

seriously? which condo?

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This post has been edited by RomaNce: Jun 2 2012, 05:12 PM

Concerto kiara @ Mont Kiara by BCB berhad

highrise condo and name as mont kiara , but location is at Jalan Dutamas .



quite near to solaris mk . heard this selling around RM700 psqft .
need suggestion for this property .

This post has been edited by Hunakadoo: Jun 5 2012, 03:00 PM

consider expensive since it's not really located at mont kiara...better buy subsale untis at jalan dutamas raya with only 300-400 psf.....

if really gt budget can up to 700psf..better go mont kiara buy the real mont kiara property..

have friends from HK looking around.. they found Mont Kiara to be overrated, they prefer to live somewhere with more local feel.. and authentic local food

Seni stil has many units available from the developer. Imho it is too expensive...but very nice.

Mont kiara sure no Chinese food. I never eat around here anyway..
Where hongkies buy then?

publika has quite some nice local chinese food in their food court.

why do you wan to stay Mont Kiara if you are locals? when you arrive Mont Kiara. you feel like you are not in Malaysia anymore. There are too many high rise buildings around. Feels like Sg, or Hk.
Malaysia have so much land and so many other nice township. Even you stay condo, should get somewhere that provide more accessibility, more values and better air space. Oversupplied in that area also killed the values and qualities that the condos provide. IMHO, stay out of this area. The value is not going to go up anytime soon over there. No rush to buy.

Buy for own stay
Not to speculate
Easy acess to town, highways
At current price

but expensive leh...one bowl of pan mee also RM7.50...the cheapest...fish head mee hoon RM9.90....

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Added on June 6, 2012, 8:27 amare u sure the price at MK is not going up?...the new one like seni all still selling at premium price..

MK actuallu situated at very centerliazed location...go to klcc, mutiara damansara, PWTC, all just need to drive at 15-20 minutes (non peak hour) can reach oledy...

MK is very nice township, it's densed but all the highrsie look beautiful n sexy...

so..if not MK, which township do u recommend????


desa park city???....too jam and too far to access to kl city center...
damansara perdana??....too far from kl
cheras???...too old and too messy...

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Added on June 6, 2012, 8:30 amo ya, forget to mention..actually at desa sri hartamas, there are few traditional kopitiam serve some nice local chinese foods........can hv a try...


This post has been edited by doomdoom: Jun 6 2012, 08:30 AM

No coffee shop in mk or hartamas
If got also can't eat one

You can actually find local food at jalan ipoh, Segambut and kepong which is not far.

MK still a lifestyle place

Nola, the chicken rice n the chinese style fry rice at desa sri hartamas tradisional kopitiam taste nt bad la, frequent go there hv dinnner after work....can always see some hot OL there...

between pelangi ang pines or vista, which be the better choice? for investment....thanks

I always get the feeling it can be quite jammed in MK, due to the high density of so many apartments in a small area. Is this not the case? Also, seems like you'll be looking into other people's apartments of neighbouring blocks, and they'll be loooking into yours.

I diagree. I think MK is better now for own stay. at least good mix of people and generally well maintained condos.

HK people would prefer landed as they can't get landed at home, no?

i did a survey

so many condos in mont kiara is empty
no tenants

yet the asking price for rental is way too high

rm2300-2500

perhaps rm1800 ppl will consider renting

Well for HK ppl, they prefer high rise, landed make no sense for them as majority of them don't even think of doing gardening...
What they like bout Malaysia is mostly local food.. local variety..

im not talking about HK people. i mean Hk as in Mk make me feels like im in Hong Kong.
because too packed with high rise.

Mont kiara rental at 1.8k?
no 3k I won't go thru hassle of renting

I agreed with torkl. Those who do not have any condo in mont kiara will never understand how good to stay at mont kiara or own an unit at mont kiara.

The rental in. Mont kiara is min 2k, sap sap water to rent out. Why should the owner rent 1800. Those who have no budget or lesser budget can go and rent at other place. 1800 is the price of ss2 or pj area but not mont kiara.

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Added on June 7, 2012, 12:57 am[quote=airline,Jun 7 2012, 12:05 AM]Mont kiara rental at 1.8k?
no 3k I won't go thru hassle of renting

Yes, fully agreed....wasting time for low rental


This post has been edited by RomaNce: Jun 7 2012, 01:02 AM

very true, strongly agree with ur statement.
But where else to find where can provide better accessibility better values and better air space? any area to recommend?

The best place to stay is rawang, sungai buluh or even tanjung malim because not many high rise and no traffic jam. Mont kiara is one of the best place to stay unless u have no budget for it.

Did you consider Palma, they are repainting it now?
I was lucky to meet a freind there, it as the bigest garden within a condo I ever seen too. You do not feel like in condo actually.
I do not know about the rental and all but the place is nice and security is good as far as I can see.

Nola, by according to ur logic,the best place to live is some kampung area at perak, sarawak or kelantan, as long as far away frm klang valley, totally no highrise n traffic jam, lots of land, u can built ur own mansion n become the local king at there....mont kiara is for poor ppl who dun hv choice so hv to chose to live in so pack area.....

bro, what is flipping? TQ

Yaloh, best still buy big mansion back to kampung and be king for those wanna avoid high rise and jam. I m too poor and cant afford to build my own house far from klang valley oh.

how in angun puri n changkat view condo , dutamas area?

a lot of foreign workers?


safe to rent?

jalan dutamas raya condo, i think mostly for local working class ppl...din see any foreign workers at changkay view n anggun puri so far...but there are some expat....perhaps those parents with kids who study at french internationl school or teachers who teached there...

Flipping = buy with the intention or hope of selling at a higher price quickly

Canton Fare in Solaris MK serves Chinese food

Desa Sri Hartamas a lot of Chinese Food

There will be future extension of MRT and LRT planned for mont kiara and Sri hartamas right?

This post has been edited by Ripp87: Jun 8 2012, 06:49 AM

Yes , at solaris dutamas area near the martrade centre.

Wow then Solaris dutamas seems to b a gd investment now!!! If its really gonna built there, I think hartamas regency is not a bad bet too. I quite like the Loc.

Hartamas regency inside design like hospital...
Location is ok..
Considered before

Which line is this? MRT phase 2?

is MK pines 585k ,low floor unit (pf),corner lot pool view will be a good buy? will it easy to rent out ard 2.5 to 3k.
another shall be Mk palma 630k, which shall be better buying?
thanks for comment

This post has been edited by erictan26: Jun 8 2012, 10:58 AM

My HK friends who own houses here become the envy of their friends back home as for little money they can own a landed property (I mean what is a RM1mil terrace house compared to their RM2.5mil, 60 over storeys, 600sqft condos?). If you have not experienced the lack of space as in HK, then go to airbnb.com and stay in one of the properties there for your next holiday. From what I heard my HK friends' friends are also wanting to buy houses here too (but don't accuse me of spreading the BBB mode - just sharing my anecdote).

I like pines but the price shoot up after repainting 100k
Pines location ok got malls nearby
If invest

TQ, icez, if flipping but still need to pay govt tax, loan penallty,.....still can make money easily?? mind to share.