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 Wizard Discussion, Come, all ye arcanists

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post Jul 5 2012, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jul 4 2012, 11:51 PM)
yup exactly, tats where i dun understand

even if i use force weapon my dps only goes up to 20k+  yawn.gif

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Those people can achieve crazy high numbers because of Crit% and Crit damage.
Crit damage really inflates your dps like crazy. (Provided you have decent crit%)

I have seen a lot of ppl stacking Int like mad and yet dps is below 20k.
When you check their total crit dmg is less than 100% doh.gif
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post Jul 5 2012, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jul 4 2012, 11:51 PM)
yup exactly, tats where i dun understand

even if i use force weapon my dps only goes up to 20k+  yawn.gif

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u have a lot AR...i hv 40k dmg but only around 200 resist~
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:05 AM

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anyone interested in buying this for 2.8m?

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post Jul 5 2012, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(olman @ Jul 4 2012, 11:51 PM)
yup exactly, tats where i dun understand

even if i use force weapon my dps only goes up to 20k+  yawn.gif

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Your wand is AMAZING. I want something like that. Gem it for crit damage, not more damage. Overall, your int is quite low, which explains the lack of dps. And your offhand damage could use a buff too. Orbs with 100-250 damage are available for not that much.
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post Jul 5 2012, 09:23 AM

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any good?

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post Jul 5 2012, 09:25 AM

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olman, sell me your wand, ill buy for 10m then u can use the gold to upgrade ur other gears~

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post Jul 5 2012, 09:26 AM

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testing wicked wind build on act 1 and act2 = tank like a boss lol
not invul al the time, death still coming. need upgrade item

if im going for tanker build, my priority should be like this?:
crit chance > atk spd >AR> armor > vit > any.






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post Jul 5 2012, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(fizyboy @ Jul 5 2012, 09:25 AM)
olman, sell me your wand, ill buy for 10m then u can use the gold to upgrade ur other gears~
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playing mass cric?

i m checking for price now in real money not gold.

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post Jul 5 2012, 10:19 AM

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to clarify, my post is for previous poster with 1k dps wand, not yours ya smile.gif
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post Jul 5 2012, 10:27 AM

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im bored of archon mode any other builds to play?

MF 150% on body 65k dps....400 resistance...22k hp 39.5% crit chance 295%crit damage
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post Jul 5 2012, 10:58 AM

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oh my lol.. every wizard i encounter in act4, they're all with shields and with standard wicked wind + critical mass build.

if u have higher death rates, then you're not doing it right.
but i dont agree for wizards to go on this build permanently. why tank mode? wanna tank please roll a barb or a monk, you'll get 30% less dmg by default. why throw a passive for blur and mess up a wizard's nature for dps.. O_o
it's nice to give it a try but when you're a wizard, you join a public game in act4, people expect you to dps and not tank.

i've joined a few games lately in act4, 2barbs, 2wizards. and i was the only one killing, it's pathetic i kept dying because all when elites hit on me, there's not way i can keep up my dmg to compensate 3 tanks. it's amazing the wizard can tank 2pack of elites in act4, but if i'm not there, 100% the boss will go on rage.
it took so long to kill izual than usual.

my honest opinion, to beat act4, you need 1 good tank and that's enough.

wiz + wiz = tank + dps << this combo is pretty good because this tank freezes the mob all the time, but most wizards cannot tank alone, there has to be a barb with war cry only for them to tank in nicely.

oh btw, maybe i have not met one yet.. wiz tank's dps is VERY PATHETIC. i'd prefer a monk/barb tho.
at least i get dodge buff or armor buff.

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post Jul 5 2012, 11:01 AM

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maybe i shud try tanking and dps build for wizard any1 have any idea what skill to use?
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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jul 5 2012, 10:58 AM)
oh my lol.. every wizard i encounter in act4, they're all with shields and with standard wicked wind + critical mass build.

if u have higher death rates, then you're not doing it right.
but i dont agree for wizards to go on this build permanently. why tank mode? wanna tank please roll a barb or a monk, you'll get 30% less dmg by default. why throw a passive for blur and mess up a wizard's nature for dps.. O_o
it's nice to give it a try but when you're a wizard, you join a public game in act4, people expect you to dps and not tank.

i've joined a few games lately in act4, 2barbs, 2wizards. and i was the only one killing, it's pathetic i kept dying because all when elites hit on me, there's not way i can keep up my dmg to compensate 3 tanks. it's amazing the wizard can tank 2pack of elites in act4, but if i'm not there, 100% the boss will go on rage.
it took so long to kill izual than usual.

my honest opinion, to beat act4, you need 1 good tank and that's enough.

wiz + wiz = tank + dps << this combo is pretty good because this tank freezes the mob all the time, but most wizards cannot tank alone, there has to be a barb with war cry only for them to tank in nicely.

oh btw, maybe i have not met one yet.. wiz tank's dps is VERY PATHETIC. i'd prefer a monk/barb tho.
at least i get dodge buff or armor buff.
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I really don't understand why malee wizard build is so popular. I mean, its not like the gear is less expensive because u have to compete the prices with other malee classes too.. Wizard should have high DPS with adequate enough effective hp to take a few hits, not facetank them! icon_question.gif

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Go create new barb or monk instead! tongue.gif
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:22 AM

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ahah lazy to lvl la
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:27 AM

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I had a laugh yesterday. A fairly awesome Blackthorn's Medal dropped for me so I tried it on for a bit. It bumped my HP all the way to 45k and I was still doing 50k dps, with 700RA and 6k armor, and 425 LoH. I went out and looked for an elite pack in Act 3, hit Archon, and facetanked them to death.

Who needs a melee build when you can do that?

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post Jul 5 2012, 11:27 AM

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me wizard not exactly tank. but i can take a few hits. with ~1000loh and ~700life regen. i have a big problem. kill too slow. after buff dmg is 21k, killing elites depends on archon mode only.
just tested crit mass with ww, not that effective bcos my crit % is only ~12%
went back to old run, diamond skin, zap till AP finish and repeat. so far can only farm warden butcher run
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:33 AM

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I am with 45k damage, 900++ resist all (after energy armor buff), around 28k hp, 32% crit chance, 4k+ armor after buff

can sorta tank most of the mobs in act 2. haven't really try act3 yet

the reason i play Energy twister + CM is not because i purposely want to tank, but i already gone bored with kite kite kite, then accidentally kite in another pack which is just so gg

with this build, can facetank most mob, spam diamond skin like nobody business lol. then when archon is up, phew phew with archon, but sometimes in archon mode dai easily. damage not enuf yet. sigh
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:46 AM

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quick reason melee wiz
- bored kiting.
- lazy lvling barb
- just few changes/item to back dps mode
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:48 AM

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u can make a lvl60 barb in 3days la..
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post Jul 5 2012, 11:52 AM

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3 days? i tot 1 and half only biggrin.gif

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