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 Wizard Discussion, Come, all ye arcanists

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post Jul 3 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 3 2012, 04:08 PM)
kite drop blizzhydra shock pulse spam, worst case mirror image or teleport with decoy, works for me
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not works with invulnerable minion biggrin.gif
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post Jul 3 2012, 04:12 PM

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post Jul 3 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(achok @ Jul 3 2012, 04:12 PM)
not works with invulnerable minion  biggrin.gif
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depends on your geographical advantage imo, if we talking arreat crater that one srsly abit effed up, usually ill lure em to a more open or stair/staged area, easier to handle invul, and u can port to the top stage if u get low on health
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post Jul 3 2012, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(buffa @ Jul 3 2012, 04:01 PM)
I have 25k dps and 23k HP, 3k armor and 50+ life regen. AR is around 300 only.
I am doing ok IMO, clearing whole act 1 include butcher and die about 2-3 times, I am careless tongue.gif
Act 2 will die 234928397432 times sad.gif

The skill I use is
Magic Missile (seeker), Teleport (the one with image), force armor (kite all the time), blizzard (lower cost), Venom hydra, and magic weapon.
I use glass cannon, the one refresh teleport and 5 sig spell next non sig spell 75%.

The tactic is kite, kite, kite, kite all the way. movement speed boot is a must. Hope that helps  smile.gif
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yeah man. I baru sampai Inferno not too long.. ACT I seems okay(for now). will just hope for good drops. In the mean time, I'm gonna just play this casually. damn bored already. wanna gungho also dulan LOL

Gonna play with my new lens! level 63 item! hahahaha
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post Jul 3 2012, 06:12 PM

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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ Jul 3 2012, 02:23 PM)
What's needed to effectively do Act 3?

I'm at around 4k armor with 500 RA (with Prismatic)
32k DPS (with Force Weapon)
around 30k HP

Can't even get past catapult sleep.gif

Edit: and about 700+ LOH (around 700-800 don't remember)
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raise catapult? or destroy catapult? i just started raise catapult, seem ok with

R 470++ buffed Amour 7400++ buffed, health 64k, dps 16k, crits chance 23.5%, loh 400++
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post Jul 3 2012, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(phoenixxx @ Jul 3 2012, 02:23 PM)
What's needed to effectively do Act 3?

I'm at around 4k armor with 500 RA (with Prismatic)
32k DPS (with Force Weapon)
around 30k HP

Can't even get past catapult sleep.gif

Edit: and about 700+ LOH (around 700-800 don't remember)
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chii cleared act 3 last time with that kind of stats, u just need to skip some elites.
btw, i didnt have LOH, i just kite the hell out of them or keep them at a corner.

*just now died 5 times clearing act 2 dungeons, must be suay like hell. 4.5k armor, 1k+ resist, 30k hp


Added on July 3, 2012, 8:49 pmcan u guys give input on your dpses ?

what u guys focus in getting dps and total dps ?

for chii is:
attack speed & int only...so u guys ?
total dps with full buff enchantress+force weapon is 48k. ( no familliar )

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post Jul 3 2012, 08:59 PM

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Hi guys...level 50 wiz reporting for duty..heheh

Just finished Nightmare but really scared reading ur dps here...mine oni 5k with force weapon..shud I be worried?
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post Jul 3 2012, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(redderscreepers @ Jul 3 2012, 08:59 PM)
Hi guys...level 50 wiz reporting for duty..heheh

Just finished Nightmare but really scared reading ur dps here...mine oni 5k with force weapon..shud I be worried?
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don't be, ur damage scales with level as u use better weapon.
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post Jul 3 2012, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(Chobits @ Jul 3 2012, 09:02 PM)
don't be, ur damage scales with level as u use better weapon.
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ic...thanx2...bit worried coz seems like never catching up with u guys...pheww~
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(paranoid @ Jul 3 2012, 02:45 PM)
i have 6.5k armor with 30k hp
about 600 resist all on prismatic rune

1k LoH
and about 500hp regen i guess

will do ok in act3 solo, but it's mostly harder to cope if im in a party because most people do not survive, they keep dying and dying, it's a hassle to kite and kill the mobs with extended difficulty if they're not doing their job lol..

also... im not sure if other wizards prefer otherwise..
MS boots is a must have for me lol
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Hi paranoid. I have similar build as yours except less hp bout 27k and 1k regen. Mind sharing what r the skills u using? Still find some act 3 elites difficult to kill solo. Thx.
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(iCa @ Jul 3 2012, 10:19 PM)
Hi paranoid. I have similar build as yours except less hp bout 27k and 1k regen. Mind sharing what r the skills u using? Still find some act 3 elites difficult to kill solo. Thx.
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crystal shell, force weapon
disintegrate with volatility
energy armor on prismatic
piercing orbs and teleport with fracture

passive on glass cannon, galvanizing ward, evocation

u can switch glass cannon to blur at times.. if u need to deal with hard bosses


some people switch evocation with critical mass, i will only go for that once my crit is higher.. it's only at 28.5% now.
the key to survive for me is my diamond skin, once i have that, i will spam as much as dps until it breaks, then i'll immediately teleport to have 2 of my clones to distract and tank for me while i continue dps.
by the time the clones are gone, my diamond skin is already available again..
this way i can almost take 0dmg all the time even, i find myself having more pots rather than needing to buy pots now.
i use disintegrate because of the damage and it has a high chance to kill all the mobs together at once, plus.. 20arcane is sooo much better than blizzard 45arcane. the other skills are pretty much useless to talk about

hope this helps =)
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post Jul 4 2012, 08:57 AM

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just curious, how effective is ASI?
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post Jul 4 2012, 09:20 AM

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depends on wat build u are doing...if is blizzard hydra u can /ignore asi
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post Jul 4 2012, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(Dinodino123 @ Jul 4 2012, 09:20 AM)
depends on wat build u are doing...if is blizzard hydra u can /ignore asi
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ic, so basically it affects skills like primaries but not those "dropped" skills? is tornado considered spammed or dropped? lets say if i wanna throw as much on the screen before running
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post Jul 4 2012, 09:34 AM

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this i not sure...hehe...
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QUOTE(The Amateur Working Bee @ Jul 4 2012, 09:24 AM)
ic, so basically it affects skills like primaries but not those "dropped" skills? is tornado considered spammed or dropped? lets say if i wanna throw as much on the screen before running
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yup I think it helps spam all skills... try a slow weapon and u can feel the laggy difference
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post Jul 4 2012, 10:51 AM

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Attack speed affects your casting speed and some other skills e.g. Ray of Frost, Disintegrate.
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post Jul 4 2012, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(Alexdino @ Jul 3 2012, 06:12 PM)
raise catapult? or destroy catapult? i just started raise catapult, seem ok with

R 470++ buffed Amour 7400++ buffed, health 64k, dps 16k, crits chance 23.5%, loh 400++
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Raise catapult sleep.gif

@chobits: nowadays some monsters can't be kited away... no matter how u kite they will run back to the same place... I always get this problem
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:16 PM

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I do act 2 farming quite comfortably.. well i do a hit and run build.. but when it comes to act 3 i cant even finish the first quest.. sucks..

my atk and armour aint great just good enough to do act 2 tht's it.. wonder why such big gap between actts
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post Jul 4 2012, 12:46 PM

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Really cool build to share.

Build Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI8oC5bNmbo

My personal skills.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wiza...;XgW!YccYaY

Summary, build is the opposite of kiting, instead it's a CC based build that's dependant on 2 Skills (Wicked Wind and Frost Nova), 1 Perk (Critical mass), Crit % / Crit DMG, and AP Regen.

If you have geared your wizard toward this, then this build is for you. Fair warning:
DO NOT ATTEMPT if you don't have
>20 crit %
>15 ap regen.
You will die. You have been warned.

Personal stats: 38k hp, 34k dps, 33% crit, 202% crit dmg, 19 ap/crit, 1034 life per second. (All resist >150-250)

Weapon: 907 dps wand w/ 2.9% life steal

Tested 2 days, difference between kiting: 15-25 mins (farming act 2 inferno, All packs in Archive -> Belial). Higher Death rate (still not really used to it yet).

Why life steal? Cause of scalability as it procs off each mob, Life on Hit is max regardless of mobs. So to mitigate dmg, Diamond Skin will proc of CM (makes you darn close to invuln, i have no resists so DS mitigates enough dmg for me to regen).

This is the most fun I've had in D3 yet. smile.gif

Pros:
- Close to perm freeze
- Close to invuln
- No need to run back and forth the entire map. (You guys know what im talking about, right.. right??)
- FREAKING FUN.

Cons:
- Higher death % if you don't know what you're doing
- North of 100m on gear.











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