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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!
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Burningsunz
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Jun 5 2012, 06:07 AM
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Liverpool Boss Plans Mass Clearout: Brendan Rodgers to Axe Eight by Christian Bailey June 4th, 2012
Dirk Kuyt Having allowed Dirk Kuyt to join Fenerbahce, Rodgers is ready to axe another seven members of his Liverpool playing staff. The 39 year old former Swansea City manager has been told he will be handed a modest transfer budget and that more significant moves in the market will have to be funded by the possible sales of players who can recoup a decent fee.
Maxi Rodriguez Utility man Maxi Rodriguez is destined to be on his way as Brendan Rodgers looks to adopt a more youthful policy when it comes to first team matters. There is already reported interest in the 31 year both from La Liga and his native Argentina. The former Atletico Madrid man has struggled to force his way into the first team under a succession of managers since his arrival in January 2010.
Alberto Aquilani Alberto Aquilani has spent the last two seasons out on loan to Juventus and AC Milan and Rodgers has little interest in bringing the Italian international back and the 27 year old is thought to be keen on remaining in Serie A. However Liverpool will not reduce their valuation for a player who cost the club £20m just under three years ago.
Joe Cole Though Brendan Rodgers has spoken of his admiration for Joe Cole the Anfield boss is ready to listen to offers for the England veteran as he looks to remove his sizable wages from the balance sheet. Wages that are not those of a bench warmer. There is reported interest from Lille, where the Londoner spent last term on loan.
Brad Jones and Doni Keeper Brad Jones and Doni will also be offloaded as Rodgers looks to give back-up duties to impressive young Hungarian custodian Peter Gulacsi, who has impressed during his loan spell at Hull City last term
Another player who may well be fighting for his Liverpool future is local born midfielder Jay Spearing. The 23 year old battler failed to impress when called upon to act as a back-up for injured Brazilian Lucas Leiva. Rodgers will look to bring in another defensive midfielder who he feels will act as a more reliable replacement. To this end the Anfield boss is said to be in talks with representatives for Barcelona bit-part player Seydou Keita.
Henderson and Downing Whilst the sales of these six would not necessarily bring in a huge amount in potential transfer funds Brendan Rodgers will also think long and hard about the future of two players who are away at Euro 2012 with the England squad. Kenny Dalglish spent over £35m on Jordan Henderson and Stewart Downing but neither player covered themselves in glory last term and their call-ups to the England camp surprised many, not least Rodgers himself. Jordan Henderson adheres to the youthful direction the Merseyside club is looking to move towards so he may well survive the cull though a lot could depend on whether Rodgers finds a more naturally suited player to take his spot on the right side of the midfield. However Stewart Downing, fast approaching 28, is apparently a player Rodgers is willing to cash-in on if a suitable offer is made. The problem in this instance may be that given his form, zero assists and zero goals in 36 Premier League appearances, it could prove a tough task to push for a bid even close to the reported £20m paid to Aston Villa for the winger.
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ftptwistedclown
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Jun 5 2012, 08:29 AM
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BRENDAN RODGERS OUT TO WALK WITH LEGEND KENNY DALGLISH? QUOTE “I have the ultimate respect for Kenny Dalglish. My door is always open for him. This is his home,” said Rodgers.
“As the chairman [Tom Werner] said, ‘he [Dalglish] is the heart and soul of this club’. His love for this club is unrivalled. He is the best player in the history of this club,” said Rodgers. QUOTE “I know there are three types of supporters at every club."
“Number one is those who, no matter who the manager is, they love their club and they will love their manager whoever it is because Liverpool is their life and their passion and they love their club."
"The second group is supporters who will accept you but to earn their real respect you will have to be successful. That’s fine."
“The third group are the critics and you never change them, ever. If you win four-nil it should have been five; if you win the league you should have won three."
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koolspyda
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Jun 5 2012, 08:31 AM
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as expected.
modest transfer budget. size depends on sale of players. think i heard of that before.
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hercules3110
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Jun 5 2012, 08:39 AM
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bye2 Dirk
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prophetjul
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Jun 5 2012, 09:05 AM
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 5 2012, 08:31 AM) as expected. modest transfer budget. size depends on sale of players. think i heard of that before. As expected....cos you are dealing with Yankee franchaise men........ They are not Liverpool FC....they are FSG........ Yankee franchaise men
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carloz28
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Jun 5 2012, 09:10 AM
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jun 5 2012, 08:31 AM) as expected. modest transfer budget. size depends on sale of players. think i heard of that before. Hazard joining Chelsea for 32mil. That's 3mil less than what we paid for Andy Carroll. Good lord. Again, it is times like these that makes me think what could have happen to Liverpool last season if we didn't blew off our coffers on Brit boys. That maybe the only window where FSG are willing to splash the cash on players, because Henry & Co need to earn the supporters' trust after they took over. Now looks like we are going the moneyball way. Will FSG's sabermetric approach that brought them success in baseball work in EPL? Only time will tell. By the way, anybody knows what is the current status of the Boston Red Sox team? Are they still standing strong in MLB or faded out after 2008? I don't expect BR to win anything in his first year but I would certainly love to see an improvement in the team. Now, STOP losing to mid table teams in EPL. That should be a good start.
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ALeUNe
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Jun 5 2012, 09:24 AM
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I'm the purebred with aristocratic pedigree
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Fellaini, go get Fellaini, as we need a defensive midfielder. Added on June 5, 2012, 9:26 amQUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jun 5 2012, 06:07 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Liverpool Boss Plans Mass Clearout: Brendan Rodgers to Axe Eight by Christian Bailey June 4th, 2012
Dirk Kuyt Having allowed Dirk Kuyt to join Fenerbahce, Rodgers is ready to axe another seven members of his Liverpool playing staff. The 39 year old former Swansea City manager has been told he will be handed a modest transfer budget and that more significant moves in the market will have to be funded by the possible sales of players who can recoup a decent fee.
Maxi Rodriguez Utility man Maxi Rodriguez is destined to be on his way as Brendan Rodgers looks to adopt a more youthful policy when it comes to first team matters. There is already reported interest in the 31 year both from La Liga and his native Argentina. The former Atletico Madrid man has struggled to force his way into the first team under a succession of managers since his arrival in January 2010.
Alberto Aquilani Alberto Aquilani has spent the last two seasons out on loan to Juventus and AC Milan and Rodgers has little interest in bringing the Italian international back and the 27 year old is thought to be keen on remaining in Serie A. However Liverpool will not reduce their valuation for a player who cost the club £20m just under three years ago.
Joe Cole Though Brendan Rodgers has spoken of his admiration for Joe Cole the Anfield boss is ready to listen to offers for the England veteran as he looks to remove his sizable wages from the balance sheet. Wages that are not those of a bench warmer. There is reported interest from Lille, where the Londoner spent last term on loan.
Brad Jones and Doni Keeper Brad Jones and Doni will also be offloaded as Rodgers looks to give back-up duties to impressive young Hungarian custodian Peter Gulacsi, who has impressed during his loan spell at Hull City last term
Another player who may well be fighting for his Liverpool future is local born midfielder Jay Spearing. The 23 year old battler failed to impress when called upon to act as a back-up for injured Brazilian Lucas Leiva. Rodgers will look to bring in another defensive midfielder who he feels will act as a more reliable replacement. To this end the Anfield boss is said to be in talks with representatives for Barcelona bit-part player Seydou Keita.
Henderson and Downing Whilst the sales of these six would not necessarily bring in a huge amount in potential transfer funds Brendan Rodgers will also think long and hard about the future of two players who are away at Euro 2012 with the England squad. Kenny Dalglish spent over £35m on Jordan Henderson and Stewart Downing but neither player covered themselves in glory last term and their call-ups to the England camp surprised many, not least Rodgers himself. Jordan Henderson adheres to the youthful direction the Merseyside club is looking to move towards so he may well survive the cull though a lot could depend on whether Rodgers finds a more naturally suited player to take his spot on the right side of the midfield. However Stewart Downing, fast approaching 28, is apparently a player Rodgers is willing to cash-in on if a suitable offer is made. The problem in this instance may be that given his form, zero assists and zero goals in 36 Premier League appearances, it could prove a tough task to push for a bid even close to the reported £20m paid to Aston Villa for the winger.  Err... Adam is not on the list. BR likes Adam more than Henderson. This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Jun 5 2012, 09:26 AM
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prophetjul
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Jun 5 2012, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:10 AM) Hazard joining Chelsea for 32mil. That's 3mil less than what we paid for Andy Carroll. Good lord. Again, it is times like these that makes me think what could have happen to Liverpool last season if we didn't blew off our coffers on Brit boys. That maybe the only window where FSG are willing to splash the cash on players, because Henry & Co need to earn the supporters' trust after they took over. Now looks like we are going the moneyball way. Will FSG's sabermetric approach that brought them success in baseball work in EPL? Only time will tell. By the way, anybody knows what is the current status of the Boston Red Sox team? Are they still standing strong in MLB or faded out after 2008? I don't expect BR to win anything in his first year but I would certainly love to see an improvement in the team. Now, STOP losing to mid table teams in EPL. That should be a good start. Stop moaning about the past when we sold Tor for 50 mil.......all hedged to the purchase of Carroll.
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Petre
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Jun 5 2012, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 5 2012, 09:29 AM) Stop moaning about the past when we sold Tor for 50 mil.......all hedged to the purchase of Carroll.  doesnt mean when you win a lottery you can just pay over the odds for stuff... anyway, await the day the lad justify the 35m price tag. maybe he will after the euro who knows... how will the bluense fit our plans? lucas is coming back right?
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prophetjul
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Jun 5 2012, 09:36 AM
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jun 5 2012, 09:34 AM) doesnt mean when you win a lottery you can just pay over the odds for stuff... anyway, await the day the lad justify the 35m price tag. maybe he will after the euro who knows... how will the bluense fit our plans? lucas is coming back right? Again the purchase price is hedged to Tor's selling price......plus Tor wanted out in the last minute of JANUARY. Which top striker would wanna leave in this window?
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Petre
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Jun 5 2012, 09:41 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 5 2012, 09:36 AM) Again the purchase price is hedged to Tor's selling price......plus Tor wanted out in the last minute of JANUARY. Which top striker would wanna leave in this window? i dont think you get my point
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carloz28
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Jun 5 2012, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 5 2012, 09:29 AM) Stop moaning about the past when we sold Tor for 50 mil.......all hedged to the purchase of Carroll.  This is not moaning. It's call reflecting. Reminiscent about our past failures in transfer market in order to prevent future occurrence of the same mistake. Comprende?
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prophetjul
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Jun 5 2012, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:45 AM) This is not moaning. It's call reflecting. Reminiscent about our past failures in transfer market in order to prevent future occurrence of the same mistake. Comprende? You have been reminiscising forever. Plus you mispaint the situation. Carroll did not ask to be priced at 35mil Walk on......
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Max_07s
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Jun 5 2012, 09:48 AM
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yes Hazard is cheaper than Andy, but he doesnt want to be here..
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koolspyda
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Jun 5 2012, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 5 2012, 10:10 AM) Hazard joining Chelsea for 32mil. That's 3mil less than what we paid for Andy Carroll. Good lord. Again, it is times like these that makes me think what could have happen to Liverpool last season if we didn't blew off our coffers on Brit boys. That maybe the only window where FSG are willing to splash the cash on players, because Henry & Co need to earn the supporters' trust after they took over. Now looks like we are going the moneyball way. Will FSG's sabermetric approach that brought them success in baseball work in EPL? Only time will tell. By the way, anybody knows what is the current status of the Boston Red Sox team? Are they still standing strong in MLB or faded out after 2008? I don't expect BR to win anything in his first year but I would certainly love to see an improvement in the team. Now, STOP losing to mid table teams in EPL. That should be a good start. "well" some might say eden hazard isnt proven premiership player yet... i wanna leave the comparison for now what 'could have been had we..' instead on the british lads. i think and looking forward the work of brendan rodgers vision for Lfc This post has been edited by koolspyda: Jun 5 2012, 09:50 AM
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Max_07s
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Jun 5 2012, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 5 2012, 01:45 AM) This is not moaning. It's call reflecting. Reminiscent about our past failures in transfer market in order to prevent future occurrence of the same mistake. Comprende? english player = crazy price last minute bid + english player = double crazy price
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carloz28
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Jun 5 2012, 09:55 AM
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jun 5 2012, 09:47 AM) You have been reminiscising forever. Plus you mispaint the situation. Carroll did not ask to be priced at 35mil Walk on...... Carroll did not ask to be priced at 35mil but someone up there in the club thinks he is worth that much.
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prophetjul
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Jun 5 2012, 10:02 AM
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 5 2012, 09:55 AM) Carroll did not ask to be priced at 35mil but someone up there in the club thinks he is worth that much. Again you are not reading the whole story Max stated it nice;ly QUOTE english player = crazy price last minute bid + english player = double crazy price Aagain its hedged to Tor's price....Kenny/Commolii isnt so silly to pay that. In the end....zero sum for FSG
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ALeUNe
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Jun 5 2012, 10:17 AM
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I'm the purebred with aristocratic pedigree
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jun 5 2012, 10:09 AM) Before that, I'd say we need to have players with good dribbling & passing skills.
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