They want to change the role of the manager? Madness...
Okay, if you guys feel that the liverpool holy trinity model is outdated, why not look at the unholy trinity model....Fergie Mourinho and Wenger....the more successful managers of the modern epl era....

I doubt Fergie or Arsene or Mourinho would have won or built anything by just concentrating on coaching.


My goodness....is FSG right in their minds?

And the reason given?? How Dalglish screw up the Suarez affair..

Come on.....just hire a PR guru for that.....not changing the roles of the manager.....

This post has been edited by nando: May 18 2012, 10:07 PM

I am speaking in the context of the fan. how KD departure have polarize us.

True Roy time was painful but if we stand by YNWA, we shouldnt hv turn against Roy. its sumthing against what we stand for. Anfield is our fortress. the last 6mths, rival have come and beat us in Anfield more often than before. 2011/2012 is one of our worst home record. in a way (with no disrespect), KD turn our home into a happy hunting ground for our rival. can i call this disrespecting Anfield? this is individual opinion. is this worst than Roy insulting fan? again this is individual opinion.

we spend so much in transfer yet can we say they are better than Konchesky and Poulsen? we didnt we gv both of them another chance.

again, i am still in the context of fans. what KD have done for the club is 20 years ago. If we say he deserve another chance for what he done 20 years ago, its using history as reason. He have not manage a club the past 10 years. So much have change in the past 10 to 20 years. we can say KD know LFC so well he is the right person to lead us fwd. the LFC KD know so well and manage so succesfully is 20 years ago. a club as it is 20 years ago just don't fit into todays environment. Moores and Parry run the club like the 80s and we got nowhere. we stay with Carlsberg for, i think 18 years. Until Std Chart come, we didnt know that we could have make so much more just by changing the title sponsor on our shirt.

we don't have to throw our value and heritage away chasing glory. we value our history. we remember our value but at the same time, we need to adapt to move fwd.

Again, i am saying KD departure i believe is not just because we finish 8th. A lot that happen this season could have been better and FSG just want a new direction.

This post has been edited by demio121: May 18 2012, 10:12 PM

i think failure to replace Xabi Alonso is the key point for Liverpool..

btw now..from a chelsea fan..

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This post has been edited by Ichighost: May 18 2012, 10:21 PM

That is pretty obvious fr yur avatar right?

You're right but the thing is most Liverpool fans didn't agree with Roy Hodgson but they were willing to give him a chance (myself included) but how can you have respect for a man who disrespected your club, tradition and even past managers? Also, when Roy came back, even though we lost to WBA, I read that the fans showed their class by not booing him or anything.

Why should Poulsen and Konchesky deserve another chance? They were nowhere near Liverpool standard and it was abysmal they were even signed. At least there was some sense in the signings of Henderson, Carroll, Adam and Downing but it just didn't turn out the way everyone had hoped for. At least Henderson doesn't put his teammates in dreadful situations like Poulsen. Adam wasn't great defensively but he put his shift in on the other side, same can't be said about Poulsen. Enrique wayyyyyy better than Konchesky evne though his form dipped at the turn of the year.

Again, I'm not saying Kenny is the right man but the reasons for keeping him are much better than the reasons of bringing someone like Roy. Kenny may have been out of managing for a long time but he was at Anfield almost every single game evne if he wasn't manager so he could see the sport has changed. Also still remains to be the other manager other than Ancelotti, Mourinho, Ferguson and Wenger to win the Premier League.

I entirely agree with your things about FSG and his departure and all but as I said, it still remains to be seen. Because if we're going to give Martinez the rumoured 30 million kitty, that's not enough to even replace Kuyt, Bellamy and Maxi, let alone strengthen the squad. And if we're hoping for a new manager to create and start afresh, we might as well be better off giving Kenny the 30 million to continue building.

Having said that, Kenny may not have been FSG's choice all along. They only offered him a contract because he did a decent job when he took over.


Well Rafa made Liverpool top ranked in Europe during his time and also qualified for Champions Leauge in 4 (06/07, 07/08, 08/09, 09/10) of his 6 years.

The downfall is not because of Rafa.

But it doesn't mean I think Rafa should be brought back. I'm still unsure.

Xavi Alonso? Who?

This post has been edited by Adryan: May 18 2012, 10:18 PM

I've given up on explaining why Kenny should be given another season. Especially after Ian Ayre 's statement. It seems that even with a FA cup, Kenny will still be sacked . So there's no point for me arguing the positives that Kenny has brought this season and why they can be translated to a better season in the next campaign.

FSG have made their decision. Money rules....Qualifying for CL football and playing a few games against some continental clubs are now seen as more important than a good run (or even winning) traditional British cups.

As a fan, I can only wait and hope that the next manager will bring us more joy.

its a discussion. if you got sumthing u think is right to say, say it. i got my opinion, u got yours. as long as we agree to disagree and no name calling, dun gv up.

peace.

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Added on May 18, 2012, 10:38 pmmate, we have never win the premier league. our last league title is 1989/90 season. Premier League starts 1992. we won a lot of Division 1, back in those days.

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my bad. KD won PL with blackburn. i dun associate KD with blackburn. thanks Cloud.

This post has been edited by demio121: May 18 2012, 10:59 PM

This is the shortest post by Dke so far I have seen.

Kenny won the PL with a Alan Shearer led Blackburn team in the 94-95 season...but we can now add Mancini to that list

Whelan confirmed on Thursday that he has granted Martinez permission to speak with Liverpool, who are seeking a successor to sacked manager Kenny Dalglish.

The Reds' shortlist for a new boss is said to be extensive - as many as ten names in the frame - and among those targets was Swansea City coach Brendan Rodgers.

But Rodgers has rebuffed Liverpool's advances as he is settled at the Liberty Stadium, and Whelan feels the Ulsterman's actions should serve as a warning to Martinez.

He told ESPN: "When Liverpool asked for Wigan's permission to speak to Roberto, it was willingly given, and you would have thought they wanted him for the job. But now it transpires they are looking at quite a few possibilities.

"The fact that Brendan Rodgers has opted out after they approached Swansea should get Roberto thinking he might be better off at Wigan. There is a suspicion that Liverpool don't know what they are doing, certainly it is clear now they don't know who they want as manager."

Liverpool's managing director Ian Ayre, though, is confident that the club can still attract the profile of manager they are aiming for, despite the lack of Champions League football once more next season.

"We will find out (the effect of not being in the Champions League) during the process I guess. The reason I don't think it will have an effect is if you lined up most managers in football and asked them if Liverpool would be a great club to manage and most people would aspire to do so I think they would say yes," Ayre said.

"The history of this club, the reach of this club around the world , its fanbase and everything we have achieved and want to achieve is more than enough to keep any manager we would want to go after hungry for the opportunity.''


I also suspect the owner don't know what they are doing. They thought baseball and soccer are game, one use hand and one use foot leh!!

after i read i also duwan comment u sudah comment..

This post has been edited by tiSSue_paPer: May 18 2012, 10:58 PM

ah yea.... i alway remember KD with LFC only. dun remember balckburn at all. my bad.

yes..sorry about that mistake..my bad..but it is true..

OH YEAH!! I forgotten about Mancini xD hahaha too recent!

Well .. actually so do I. I hardly associate Kenny, Rush, Barnes with Newcastle even!!! But no worries la .. I can completely understand where you are coming from.

Chill la. Messing only but yeah, haven't replaced Alonso and it's not even easy to find a replacement! Not many of his kind around.

Everyone is sacred to join us d lol

http://www.swanseacity.net/page/Latest/0,,...2776443,00.html

That's embarrassing

Why embarrassing? The club has already shortlisted a number of candidates and are currently interviewing them.

It just happen that Rodgers didn't want to accept the offer, for whatever reason. Nothing to be embarrassed about.

more of like, is there even any reason for joining us?

i just hope this is not a stunt by the owners.

all big names queuing to head ManU la....Sir Alex leaving d...