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English Clubs Liverpool FC- The Kop Talk 2012, Bye Dirk Kuyt!

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Rotuham
post May 14 2012, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(GrandElf @ May 14 2012, 02:37 PM)
Hope this new thread will bring less argument/name calling for all the Liverpool supporter for both Kenny supporters & Kenny haters......
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I ike how you put it as kenny haters as if they are on the bad side.
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post May 14 2012, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(GrandElf @ May 14 2012, 04:33 PM)
@Rotuham

Seriously, u gotta take a chill pill and stop with all your too negative thinking.....Don't take all the decision make by Kenny is wrong....

Me too don't like what was going on now with Kenny as manager where he certainly make too many wrong decision....But still, there should be a few good positive sign taking from our this season blip right?
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Your opinion is that i am being too negative.My opinion is that i am being a realist.If the positives from this season outweigh the negatives,then you have a point.As it stands now,kenny's record is worse than roy.

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post May 14 2012, 08:24 PM

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As it stands now it's 59 people who wouldn't mind kenny leaving compared to 40 who want kenny to stay. thumbup.gif
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post May 14 2012, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ May 14 2012, 08:23 PM)
someone let henry know to bring Rafa back please!!
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My opinion is that we should look forward not the past.
People said kenny had unfinished business at liverpool when he came and it turned out very badly with very little progress or lack of it.
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post May 14 2012, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 14 2012, 08:25 PM)
If football was a popularity contest, Lucas Leiva would have been sold 3 seasons ago for nought. rolleyes.gif
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Lucas leiva was young and had no epl experience when he came.All these so called british talent henderson,downing and adam had plenty of experience.Besides,we didn't pay silly money like we did for downing and adam.

My point is don't compare apple and oranges.People like to bring up lucas at the slightest bit.

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post May 14 2012, 08:45 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ May 14 2012, 08:36 PM)
Rubbish, Lucas came to us at 19 and it was not until a couple years back that people began to change their minds about him. He's now 25 years old.
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Didn't know 19 is old already rolleyes.gif

Lucas stepped up when mascherano left.He struggled with the pace of EPL and had the disadvantage of being compared against a world class midfield trio of alonso,mascherano and gerrard.

The criticism of him were justified but not the harsh abuse like ''he sucks'' ''he's shit''.
Besides lucas only played when one of mascherano or alonso couldn't play.Remember the 4-1 at OT.He played only because alonso's wife was delivering.


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post May 14 2012, 10:35 PM

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So guys,how is your LYN LFC fantasy standings?

I got 39 out 91 and totalled 1791.Not bad since first time playing it.All these while never had the interest.

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post May 15 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(demio121 @ May 15 2012, 10:09 AM)
Energizer bunny is rumbling.

the gap between us and Rotterdam is pretty big huh.... 80% pay cut.
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Why would kuyt talk to The Sun? If he really did,he should be kicked out of the club.
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post May 15 2012, 04:18 PM

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What's kenny's fault?

1)Narrowing his options to british players which has become irrelevant since early 90's.

2)Practising favouritism with charlie adam.

3)Failed plan to play henderson on the right wing ala ray houghton

4)Playing negative formation in the league too much. The 5-4-1 against stoke at anfield and the failed 4-5-1 formation with suarez as lone striker is a sight many times this season.

5)Blaming luck all the time instead of trying a different approach in tactics and training
''We'll keep doing what we have been doing all these and we'll get there with a wee bit of luck''-familiar mantra throughout the season.

6)Insistence to play players on poor form and low in confidence.Charlie adam,stewart downing and henderson are undroppable.You can include reina and carragher if you like.

7)Failure to give the likes of kelly,doni and maxi time to play when he always talks about squad depth.

8) The most important of all-failure to learn from most of the mistakes above by the end of the season.

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post May 15 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ May 15 2012, 04:44 PM)
Instead of you telling us Kenny's fault - in which you have presented your case for the 100th time - how about you tell us what Kenny has done right all season?

Honestly, I find a few of your points overly negative and could pick out a few flaws in your argument but humor me for awhile with my question above. I'm sure you can find a few good points unless you truly believe that he has screwed everything up... which incidentally means that he's no better than Roy.
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In a list of Kenny's faults you don't expect me to write the things he did right do you?
I may have said those a 100 times but this is the first time i am lumping all of them in one post.

You should have noticed i said in the last point that he failed to learn from most of mistake not
Since you asked,i will write it down.

1)Positive football unlike the football played under rafa and houllier which were too rigid.Even our centrebacks and fullbacks get involved in attacks.

2) Kept the defence tight all season with us conceding the third least in the league.It could have been better if not for reina's mistakes.

3)Playing bellamy on the wings which was a fruitful move.Bellamy is even better than he was last time.

4)Ending our trophy drought by winning the carling cup beating difficult teams on the road away.

5)Didn't fear dropping carragher for the excellent skrtel-agger pairing.

6)Protect the players from injuries which was a frequent thing under rafa.

Overall,the negatives still outweigh the positives which is why i don't want him to continue just like the majority as seen in the polls above wink.gif

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post May 15 2012, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ May 15 2012, 05:37 PM)
Villareal are relegated from the league.. it's shame if liverpool failed to grab afew quality player from there
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More likely to grab players from wolves and blackburn.
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post May 15 2012, 06:15 PM

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Why not raid bundesliga? There are plenty of talent.Germany is the next best thing to spain.

Newcastle got papiss cisse from bundesliga.He was the second top scorer there before coming to EPL.

Even united are looking to buy kagawa.

I doubt kenny will do that since he likes british players too much.
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post May 16 2012, 08:19 AM

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Sounds much more like excuses than positives apart from the first one rolleyes.gif

Before i answer your question since i am Nay-er,modern fan,not ''true fan''

What makes you think in the first place that the manager will fail?
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post May 16 2012, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 16 2012, 08:31 AM)
To you its always an excuse.
To me, those are very good signs. i would be very worried if the team was lackasidial, defensive,
concervative and Suarez screaming to leave.
Add to that, Carroll is showing signs that we may all be wrong about him price aside.
Add to that we are back in Europe.

Modern fan alrite, who know squat about the Liverpool way or Kenny Dalglish.    nod.gif

Thats a prognosis/sugeestion......i am eagar to see what you would suggest FSG do in that scenario as
a MODERN fan.
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Yup i should answer to bellends like you who take the holier than thou stance.
You people are like children throwing tantrums.you won't support if kenny is not the manager.

Besides,you don't have to talk about carroll to me.I have been supporting him all these while when others were shouting for him to be sold.
I wonder where your liverpool way went when everyone called for roy to be sacked rolleyes.gif

I guess it's true after all when they say liverpool fans live in the past.

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post May 16 2012, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ May 16 2012, 09:22 AM)
Ohhh Bellend...name calling now? ...... holier? Whats religion gotta do with this?  whistling.gif

i must having my second childhood........ at 50      rclxms.gif

For yer HOLY self info, i didnt call for woy to be sacked....    whistling.gif

Judgemental arent we?    nod.gif
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For someone who can't put up posts without using the ''modern fans'' term,''fake fans'' term i think the respect i am giving you currently is already too much.

Why are you playing the religion card?When did i mention anything about religion?
Maybe you terasa blush.gif

I really don't care what age you are.I take comments on face-value.Even if you are 50years old your posts suggests that you lack maturity.If you want people to respect you for your age,start behaving like one instead of telling off people who don't want kenny.
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post May 16 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 16 2012, 09:23 AM)
Dont mean to butt in but you compared Roy's relegation days with Kenny's 8th place. That shows how insightful you are.... sweat.gif

In case you forget, we was 17th once when Woy in charge....
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We was 17th at one point then we went to 12th.Our form in the second half of this season is relegation form only above wolves.You should check the premier league form guide.

Considering roy only had half a season,is it illogical to compare it with kenny's half season this year?
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post May 16 2012, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ May 16 2012, 11:41 AM)
Now, it's funny then how you are supposed to pick KD's half season when he had one good and one bad. Plus, if you picked the bad half, it's different, it's at the end of the season where the relegation teams tend to play better than expected. Either way, it's unfair to compare two of them together...


Added on May 16, 2012, 11:42 am
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You mentioned roy had us in relegation form.I say that kenny also put us in relegation form.Is that wrong?
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post May 17 2012, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ May 16 2012, 11:33 PM)
Rotuham, Carlox and co must be jumping with glee with this announcement.

In any case, despite the boiling temper in me, now is definitely NOT the time to show anger towards FSG.

The Liverpool Way doesn't involve us going to charge at the owners for dismissing our gaffer.

YNWA
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Yup,I am screaming with joy because john henry was reading all my posts here and decided to consider my views.

get real.All i did was put across my opinion.

It's always sad to see a manager leave even when it was roy whatmore a legend like kenny.I trust FSG has made the right decision.

YNWA Kenny but times haves changed a lot and so did football.
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post May 17 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(maranello55 @ May 17 2012, 12:35 AM)
its not a football club anymore. these yankees n glory hunters have turn it into comodities.
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yup.time for you to leave this ''comodities''
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post May 17 2012, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(seizer @ May 17 2012, 12:42 AM)
bENITEZ anyone?
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I have already made a lot of enemies on here after wanting kenny to leave.So it doesn't matter anymore i guess.

The answer is a big no.

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