If I wanna migrate to another country, which country is the best option considering that i'm going there sehelai sepinggang?

In terms of living cost, economic stability, good community etc.

Saudi Arabia. If you go there as a student of "University of Medina". Everything will be sponsored by the zakat money there...

Others, I dunno....

qatar, where police earns $15,000 dollars a month

Are you willing to learn a foreign language? Otherwise your options are down to a few countries ..

I'm already looking for people to teach me other languages for free

didn't you say u wanna go help kids after settling everything here?

sweden finland norway

then german switzerland


countries you should not go: colombia, south africa, north korea

takshkent, good income. stable country, nice girls

My friend in Mesir says mesir pipul very chauvinist
Women are ditindas there :/

plan nak lari rumah ke?

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Added on May 7, 2012, 6:22 pmapa kata cuba indonesia.?

This post has been edited by K.I.T.T: May 7 2012, 06:22 PM

go brunei, there salary for indon got at least B$500

amterdam

medina al munawwarah. as long as u dont initiate bersih 4.0 n above there. not even bersih 3.0 sp2

UAE.

Emirates = Dubai
Etihad = Abu Dhabi

=)

The United States of America.

/thread

pulau ketam....(after split from m'sia ofcoz)

abu dhabi! my friend their and she's survive well! and can go vacation to europe some-more

Thailand.

Depends on your skills and what qualifications and experience you have.

Provided you land a job here pretty quick, Australia is a great place. With a PR, the government subsidizes your education, gives you free healthcare, pays for kids to go to kindergarten, upskills you as required and even supports your rent if you have a hard time coping. The welfare system is comprehensive and finding work with a 4.8 percent unemployment rate here in QLD is pretty damned easy.

Most Aussies hate ninjas though. You're ok if you wear a hijab, but then again even I hate ninjas. Otherwise the Aussies are a pretty sporting bunch and very friendly, if not very much more vulgar than Americans.

Or you could shag sheep and move to NZ.

Qatar , France maybe

canada

anywhere but malaysia!!

Off to North Korea you go!

Im surprised no one mention Japan lol
this is so unlike /k/. Usual /k/ will worship japan for whatever reason possible.

btw I would say ukraine or UK.

This post has been edited by failed.hashcheck: May 13 2012, 11:26 PM

canada seems like a friendly place

Any of the anglophone countries will do ...

Canada.

Please do not troll this topic, everyone has their own reason...

Which city/country would you suggest for someone in their mid 20's looking for a fresh start.
In terms of employment, lifestyle, cost of living, openest to migrants and opinion, etc.
Currently I'm in the lookout for a postgrad course and possibly to settle down.
Nothing much left here for me now..
Thank you

sinkapoh

Australia mate. Living here and enjoying every moment of it. Been here a month already.

well skilled migration takes time and you need to have some working experience...unless ure grad in the country you want to migrate then get a company to sponsor you ..easier that way

How far are you willing to go?

Entry via a postgraduate degree is getting tougher in many countries. In almost all cases residency comes only after a few years of working in that country. Not many actually can get a job but once you have a job, spending just 5 years on average on that job could easily result in a PR.

The critical juncture is then the part where you transition from a postgraduate degree to a fulltime job offer in that country.

Of all the countries, Canada is still the country with the lowest requirements. Though that is about to change soon. Graduates can apply for an open work permit for up to 3 years. UK no longer has that, Australia too I believe. One year of professional work is enough to qualify for the Canadian Experience Class. If you speak French and have studied in Quebec, the requirements are even easier to be met.

You have to ask yourself, what course do you want to do?

Good for you man, u realize this early. I am also in the process of moving, but how come you dunno where u wanna go? Isn't there a country you would die to live in?..... which begs the question, why u wanna leave in the first place?

Singapore is easier to enter with less racial barrier for you to get used to and should you miss stuff from M'sia, you can easily go across to M'sia from time to time.

Australia and New Zealand is the next best thing IMO especially if you don't plan to risk with countries that are too far off. NZ might be a bit more of a retirement country though, unless you go to Queenstown (even then it could be boring after a while). Aus seems hard to migrate to, requirements seem to be much higher now and they only want specific professions. Friend is trying but I don't see much progress on her end (she's a IT business analyst/consultant).

TSOM should have some good insight for you, but bear in mind, prepare for 1Malaysia as your answer.

how can you decide and you yourself dont actually know what its like out there. Way I see it Malaysia still offers a lot.... well jobwise things are a little difficult now. But so is Aus... that nation has been living on dirt for a decade, exporting minerals to the world's factory which is china. Spore is getting too expensive and space is a premium. Europe and Canada? Climate is lousy. Been there.. I know. Heard that its even worse now. NZ, the DIY nation is frenly i suppose but kinda quiet. If you dont know how to socialise then you will be lonely.
On another note... Foodwise Msia is heaven!

Have you work in Oz before?

I would suggest you go migrate either of this countries:

Canada, Taiwan,Hong Kong,United States,Japan.


My experience as football article writer+football match observer, I have been to many Asian countries except Middle East and South Asia countries which I only been to Qatar and India. If I were you, I would choose to migrate to Taipei,Taiwan. I will brush up my Mandarin speaking and writing skills so that I don't encounter more problems when I am at Taiwan soon. Now I am in the process of finding a degree course to study in KL for 1st yr then continue it at Taiwan..

By the way I am born in Kaoshiung on 28/12/1993 before raised in KL since 31/1/1994 till now

This post has been edited by vuetnam: Apr 22 2014, 10:26 PM

Hi,

Have you consider migrate to another country or getting their PR while remain as Malaysian?

If yes, which countries are you prefer and why?

Did consider but gave up as the process is tedious. Secondly, those countries are not suffering from high unemployment so you may end up getting bullied and no better there than here. So better the devil you know than the devil you don't.

Haha. Ya, every country migration process is tedious and costly.

But, I am asking for opinions.

Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand.

And yes, i'll remain as Malaysian

You can't be a PR of another country and remain in Msia in the long run. You will lose the PR status. The only way to retain any foreign status is to be a citizen of that country while remaining in Msia.

Most will choose Aussie or nz.

Singaporean PR?

taxes

keep the msia citizenship.. just if any crab hit the turbine...

That means renouncing your Malaysian citizenship, which I don't think that's what TS is looking to do. Malaysia does not recognize dual citizenship, as far as I can remember.

What you have said is true. Though there are a lot of Msians who have foreign citizenships still in Msia while the music is still playing.

Yes, I am aware of that too. It's all good until either country founds out

In most cases, they only have to worry about Msia discovering that. Other countries (which most malaysians have acquired status from) will not care about it.

I am in the process of executing my plan of moving to Japan.

got plan but haven't decide which country

Could you share the costs, procedures and rules to migrate to Japan?

yes, to a developed European country for better quality of life. clean air, low crime rate, health care, less stressful

if I understood TS question correctly, it means still being a malaysian citizen and holding a PR of another country. that is very common.

one will only lose the PR status if he/she is not in the foreign country for a predefined period of time.

Going to European country may not as good as in the pass due to their economy is deteriorate.

We may hardly get job at there as well.

Europe is on the up now, so it's booming again after stagnation/recession for quite a long time

To get visa, you need to get a job first anyway.

A country will not simply allow you to migrate unless:
1. You have secured a job
2. Graduated from their local uni
3. Very rich

this loophole is tricky.

for instance i heard that those holding msia-aust citizenship, when they fly to malaysia from aust...they take out their msian passports but when they return from malaysia to aust...they need to flash their aussie passport because aust government won;t allow you to use other passport.

You have missed one step. They usually enter Msia through another country. The main issue here is that you left Msia and so your passport must have a stamp. The issue is more on Msia than Australia. Australia doesn't care if you have another passport, it will not penalise you for holding another citizenship.

Doing what you have just said won't fly.

That's meant that using Malaysia passport to enter Malaysia and Australia for those having Malaysia-Australia citizenship. The Australia passport will be keeping to show that they are Australia citizen ?

u tak suka? no i never thought of migrating, been to many countries i must say u need to travel more first

No. When you enter Australia, you must use the Australian passport. What they don't care is that you also possess a foreign passport other than an Australian one. Australia will not question why you hold a foreign passport in addition to your australian one.

This post has been edited by feynman: May 1 2014, 02:21 PM

Depending on the PR conditions when applied also. Last time NZ got this one where you just make one official entry and you hold the PR status for life as long as you transfer the visa when you renew passport.

haha....that's not the correct definition of PR.

I don't remember defining PR in my post. Which part are you referring to?

It refers to NZ giving a PR that doesn't require residents to reside in NZ. I guess it sounded so ludicrous that it has removed it.

It may sound ludicrous but I do know people that are holding that kind of PR status. I'm not sure if they have abolished that condition or it's still a possible option for those interest since this was back in about 2005 or so.

I'm still a student actually, it is kind of my dream to work in a place where it has good living cost, economic stability, and a good community. I know now

everywhere's tough, but is there any suggestion, like Australia? Australia is really tough, I've heard people said they only got into a job for about 7 months, 4

months if you're lucky and also they have limited job scope. Will I have more benefits if I learn a few more foreign languages?

LOL, is there really a "best" country...individual preference differs

Do you think I'm a little early like dream of migrating or working in other places, generally speaking, I don't have much experience in working in big companies.

Sweden/Norway/Finland is like first world country. The experience of working in Malaysia cannot be used in countries like that.

they hate immigrants

bcos they dont have gantung sampai mati sentence only. the guy got free meal n nice accomodation in their jails summore. haihh. such a waste.

It is individual preference, but learn to speak their language if you wish to migrate to their country. Studying in their university is always the key to get into local job after graduation.

If your relying on job as first step, try international company which operates in Malaysia and any other country with the potential of moving abroad if there are opportunities. Make sure you have the set skills required to get employed within big organisations. Some countries have shortage of worker, i.e. in the UK they publish an updated skill shortage annually and if you have the skills which fall within the bucket, then your very welcome to apply and have higher chance being employed.

Australia is tough to get in because they are using point system based on the merit, education, English scoring (IELTS) and if you have any support, immediate family in Australia. My cousin had to wait nearly 1 year to get his visa approved but now I think he is full PR there.

Otherwise, there is Working Holidaymaker visa in the UK, Australia (unsure), NZ these are the popular destination.

Grass is always greener on the other side, you always heard of either positive side of that particular country or the negative side and until you experience it first hand, you will never know whether you will like it there.

Studying in overseas is a luxury that I cannot afford, I wasn't born silver spoon heheheh. So I guess I'll have to rely on my job, people have told me that

choosing a good company is the utmost important, gives you a lot of chances and benefits. I still have 2 years left to graduate, I think I might be too early

to think of working overseas, but still kudos to you, for your information, helps a lot. Guess I'll just have to focus on my studies at the moment now. Dream is

just a dream.

This post has been edited by darklord95: Apr 16 2015, 06:50 PM

Neither do I but have worked my way and lady luck was on my side, they paid my University fee ... don't do it too late bro as the regulations keep changing, when there is chance grab it. You also need luck on your side.

GL

This post has been edited by 4agze: Apr 16 2015, 08:13 PM

think of costa rica?? got many beautiful girls there

haha I guess I'm too late then, I have paid my fees for degree in local U, so I might as well finish the studies, if not the money would be wasted. When I was

younger, never thought of it too much, because I was thinking study where also the same one, right now I just feel like maybe next time I work, I wanna work

in a better condition you know, work-life balance, not like typical asians that work 24/7, that is not the life I wanted, but life's tough, I know, it's just my wishful

thinking.

soviet union

Life is as tough as you make yourself feel. But then there are joys in work too. They always tell nice stories from out there. I am yet to hear about them cold toilet seat in midwinter in North Of England or worse still in Jia-na-da as they say it!!!
Yeah home is still the best... that is my thought.

Yeah, that is also one reason why I would hear my cousins talk about their experience in working, mostly working overseas, I would always sit down and listen.

Australia has been a place I have always wanted to migrate to ever since I'm small, when I grew up, the dreams just get stronger, but I have not yet make

appropriate approaches to achieve it, right now I'm just a student, with nothing. The reason why is because I think they offer better lifestyle there, less crime

and stuffs, but climate change is also a bad thing too right there and also some of them might hate us, and treat us as immigrants. I don't really know, I'm

actually finding stories of the people who live in Australia, and say that they want to move back to Malaysia, due to reasons, etc etc, and some of them wanna

move to Australia, due to reasons,etc etc. Make comparison, and decide, that's all what I can do now, and I have 2 years left to graduate, no one knows what

2 years later how the economy will change in Australia, maybe applying to work there will become harder. Who knows? Wishful thinking. ;3

Look no further!!!
It's 1Malaysia that you are looking for!!!!!!!

Stay for another 5 years and we'll be a high income country by 2020!!



Sometimes I cannot understand ppl's obssession with Australia.
The country is so far from others, so it's difficult when you want to travel/visit another country. Maybe someone can tell me more good things about Australia?

6 months is a standard job-hunting time frame. My friend spent 9 months doing nothing, just job-hunting and finally got a graduate level job with a big company in the UK. You need to sacrifice if you want to win! No pain no gain!

Since you're local uni student, maybe you can consider doing a student exchange to a foreign country. But make sure you have the right aim in mind, GET A JOB!! and not honeymoon! I often tell my friends that it's better to study in Germany than in private uni in Malaysia. If you want to learn a foreign language, learn German! Germany is still very welcoming compared to other countries. And with German, you can move to Switzerland or Austria next time. All German speaking countries have very high standard of living.

Go to Germany.

The best country is the one you can do business / make money easily... overseas is okay if you can get "paper married" with local ppl there, but if you start from bottom don't waste ur energy too much... nowadays economy is not stable ... arabs suffers cuz oil prices goes down, european suffers cuz prices too high... and etc...

The first thing you need to change if you want to migrate to another country is your mindset. The mistake you are making now is by saying "I am just a student" and can therefore do nothing. If going to Australia is your dream, you must come up with a plan to get there.

Migrating is not easy, the host country generally only wants to get the best of the best. You cannot hope to put in an "average" amount of effort and hope that it will give you results. You need to put in exceptional effort.

Since your vision is "Migrate to Australia", start by identifying a few things that you can do right now to improve your chances. For example,

1. Can you speak, read, and write English fluently? At least fluent enough to get an 8 on the IELTS for each component of the exam? If you cannot, it's time to put together a plan to practise and improve your English so that you can achieve that kind of score. The reason for this is because the Australian skilled migrant system awards points to people based on their IELTS score.

2. Have you applied for, or completed, any internships with companies in the field you are studying? I take it you will want to go for a graduate job when you complete your studies. Employers will generally look favourably to graduates who have completed internships particularly in "well known" firms.

3. Are there any professional courses that you can do on the side while you are studying? By professional courses, I mean things like one (or more) levels of the CFA if you're studying finance, or some professional certifications, e.g. MCSE, Certified Java Programmer if you are studying IT/CS. If you are able to complete something like that, it would show to a potential employer that you are serious about the field you are in and willing to put in exceptional effort.

You should be waking up every morning thinking to yourself, "What can I do today to get closer to my dream?" By taking these baby steps towards your dream every day, I think you will have a much better chance of getting there in 2 years time.

1. I actually do practice everyday. By reading and try to write something.

2. No, it will be 2 years now. Right now I am still uncertain of what I am going to be in the next 2 years. But I am already planning.

3. I have seen stuffs like this. I will take a look.

Thank you for your time for providing me useful and valuable opinions, Gursnagh.

OK, if you still have two years to go, you are still early in your path.

But you should try to look for an internship during your holidays in your second year at least. The internship helps you understand better what the working world is like. If it is a good internship, you might even be given a project that you can work on that helps the company. That will teach you a few other important things that you will need in your working life, e.g. the importance of deadlines, reporting what you do, and delivering results that meet expectations. If they don't give you a project, suggest one to them.

I studied overseas and I can tell you that almost 100% of the students at my university went looking for internships in their second year and then again in their third (final) year. Often, they would get a job offer from their third year internship which they would go to when they graduated. The second year internship was sometimes in something they ended up working in; for example, they would go to work in finance in their 2nd year and a second finance internship in their 3rd year and end up working in finance. But, sometimes, you would get people who do something totally different in their 2nd year internship and that was OK too.

I don't think this is so common in Malaysia but, again, the idea here is not to do "common" things but to do things that make you stand out in a positive way.

you should just focus in your studies... if you have good grades you have better chances of going overseas to work.... similarly if you have good experience, people will want to hire you.... this is what its called brain drain....

but if you dont have either both, then perhaps you can hope that your parents can help you invest into the country that you like and that will save you all the trouble...

in the meantime, try to read a bit on business new daily to know what is going on around the world.. in a nutshell, when economy is down, no one will wanna hire you even you are good in anything...

get to know yourself, what are your interest, what are your habits and then you go from there... Not go to another country because everyone says its good there..

North Korea, yes I like to live dangerously.

living cost, lifestyle

selects austrialia

kek

If you are outstanding in your field, many countries will welcome you with open arms.

There are many grants and scholarships available, you just need to look.

Working and living overseas is an invaluable experience. However, it is not for everyone.

Good luck.

I think United States are much easier to get a job compared to Australia and England. Fluent in Chinese and English put you in a better position in job search in those developed countries as most major companies are trying to do business with the chinese

What's the best country to migrate to and how you did it

portland, nice place to work

Australia = everything is calm

Syria

Sorry. I thought this was kopitiam! Anyway, I chose Cardiff, Wales. Been here about 15 odd years. Love it here. Lovely city, beautiful countryside.

pros n cons?

there's no 'best' country. If there were, everyone would be migrating there already.

What's best for you may not be best for others.

for example, angmo are exalted in asia and they get expat pay here. So they may think Malaysia and Singapore as the best, especially SG with low taxes.

if you're lgbt, you may think countries that legalise the marriage as ideal as they are more open-minded.

if you're chinese, you may like taiwan as you'd be treated the same like a local. It could feel like a family.

Of course... the land of freedom, where one can survive by hunting animals with just guns and ammo and nothing else. Great car with pure raw american power, nice food that garantee u can gain weight.