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post May 6 2012, 06:51 PM, updated 8y ago

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If I wanna migrate to another country, which country is the best option considering that i'm going there sehelai sepinggang?

In terms of living cost, economic stability, good community etc.
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post May 6 2012, 06:53 PM

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Saudi Arabia. If you go there as a student of "University of Medina". Everything will be sponsored by the zakat money there...

Others, I dunno....
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post May 6 2012, 06:58 PM

Perth please be good to my business !!
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qatar, where police earns $15,000 dollars a month
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post May 6 2012, 07:22 PM

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Are you willing to learn a foreign language? Otherwise your options are down to a few countries ..
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post May 6 2012, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(TSOM @ May 6 2012, 07:22 PM)
Are you willing to learn a foreign language? Otherwise your options are down to a few countries ..
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I'm already looking for people to teach me other languages for free
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post May 7 2012, 02:14 PM

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didn't you say u wanna go help kids after settling everything here?
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sweden finland norway

then german switzerland


countries you should not go: colombia, south africa, north korea brows.gif
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ May 6 2012, 07:51 PM)
If I wanna migrate to another country, which country is the best option considering that i'm going there sehelai sepinggang?

In terms of living cost, economic stability, good community etc.
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takshkent, good income. stable country, nice girls
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post May 7 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(hotjake @ May 7 2012, 02:14 PM)
didn't you say u wanna go help kids after settling everything here?
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post May 7 2012, 04:09 PM

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plan nak lari rumah ke?
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QUOTE(soundaddict @ May 7 2012, 04:09 PM)
plan nak lari  negara  ke?
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ May 6 2012, 06:51 PM)
If I wanna migrate to another country, which country is the best option considering that i'm going there sehelai sepinggang?

In terms of living cost, economic stability, good community etc.
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apa kata cuba indonesia.?

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go brunei, there salary for indon got at least B$500
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post May 8 2012, 08:24 AM

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medina al munawwarah. as long as u dont initiate bersih 4.0 n above there. not even bersih 3.0 sp2
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UAE.

Emirates = Dubai
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post May 9 2012, 06:32 AM

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The United States of America.

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pulau ketam....(after split from m'sia ofcoz)
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post May 9 2012, 10:40 PM

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abu dhabi! my friend their and she's survive well! and can go vacation to europe some-more
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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ May 6 2012, 06:51 PM)
If I wanna migrate to another country, which country is the best option considering that i'm going there sehelai sepinggang?

In terms of living cost, economic stability, good community etc.
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Thailand.

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post May 10 2012, 06:37 PM

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Depends on your skills and what qualifications and experience you have.

Provided you land a job here pretty quick, Australia is a great place. With a PR, the government subsidizes your education, gives you free healthcare, pays for kids to go to kindergarten, upskills you as required and even supports your rent if you have a hard time coping. The welfare system is comprehensive and finding work with a 4.8 percent unemployment rate here in QLD is pretty damned easy.

Most Aussies hate ninjas though. You're ok if you wear a hijab, but then again even I hate ninjas. Otherwise the Aussies are a pretty sporting bunch and very friendly, if not very much more vulgar than Americans.

Or you could shag sheep and move to NZ.
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Qatar , France maybe
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post May 12 2012, 01:17 PM

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post May 13 2012, 11:03 AM

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anywhere but malaysia!!
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QUOTE(TSOM @ May 13 2012, 11:03 AM)
anywhere but malaysia!!
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post May 13 2012, 11:25 PM

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Im surprised no one mention Japan lol
this is so unlike /k/. Usual /k/ will worship japan for whatever reason possible.

btw I would say ukraine or UK.

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canada seems like a friendly place
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post May 14 2012, 08:22 AM

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Any of the anglophone countries will do ...
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Canada.
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post Mar 18 2014, 08:58 PM

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Please do not troll this topic, everyone has their own reason...

Which city/country would you suggest for someone in their mid 20's looking for a fresh start.
In terms of employment, lifestyle, cost of living, openest to migrants and opinion, etc.
Currently I'm in the lookout for a postgrad course and possibly to settle down.
Nothing much left here for me now..
Thank you
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post Mar 19 2014, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ Mar 18 2014, 08:58 PM)
Please do not troll this topic, everyone has their own reason...

Which city/country would you suggest for someone in their mid 20's looking for a fresh start.
In terms of employment, lifestyle, cost of living, openest to migrants and opinion, etc.
Currently I'm in the lookout for a postgrad course and possibly to settle down.
Nothing much left here for me now..
Thank you
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post Mar 20 2014, 06:39 PM

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Australia mate. Living here and enjoying every moment of it. Been here a month already.
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post Mar 20 2014, 08:55 PM

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well skilled migration takes time and you need to have some working experience...unless ure grad in the country you want to migrate then get a company to sponsor you ..easier that way
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QUOTE(rawrkun @ Mar 18 2014, 08:58 PM)
Please do not troll this topic, everyone has their own reason...

Which city/country would you suggest for someone in their mid 20's looking for a fresh start.
In terms of employment, lifestyle, cost of living, openest to migrants and opinion, etc.
Currently I'm in the lookout for a postgrad course and possibly to settle down.
Nothing much left here for me now..
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How far are you willing to go?

Entry via a postgraduate degree is getting tougher in many countries. In almost all cases residency comes only after a few years of working in that country. Not many actually can get a job but once you have a job, spending just 5 years on average on that job could easily result in a PR.

The critical juncture is then the part where you transition from a postgraduate degree to a fulltime job offer in that country.

Of all the countries, Canada is still the country with the lowest requirements. Though that is about to change soon. Graduates can apply for an open work permit for up to 3 years. UK no longer has that, Australia too I believe. One year of professional work is enough to qualify for the Canadian Experience Class. If you speak French and have studied in Quebec, the requirements are even easier to be met.

You have to ask yourself, what course do you want to do?
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post Mar 21 2014, 02:38 PM

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Good for you man, u realize this early. I am also in the process of moving, but how come you dunno where u wanna go? Isn't there a country you would die to live in?..... which begs the question, why u wanna leave in the first place?
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Singapore is easier to enter with less racial barrier for you to get used to and should you miss stuff from M'sia, you can easily go across to M'sia from time to time.

Australia and New Zealand is the next best thing IMO especially if you don't plan to risk with countries that are too far off. NZ might be a bit more of a retirement country though, unless you go to Queenstown (even then it could be boring after a while). Aus seems hard to migrate to, requirements seem to be much higher now and they only want specific professions. Friend is trying but I don't see much progress on her end (she's a IT business analyst/consultant).
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TSOM should have some good insight for you, but bear in mind, prepare for 1Malaysia as your answer.
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how can you decide and you yourself dont actually know what its like out there. Way I see it Malaysia still offers a lot.... well jobwise things are a little difficult now. But so is Aus... that nation has been living on dirt for a decade, exporting minerals to the world's factory which is china. Spore is getting too expensive and space is a premium. Europe and Canada? Climate is lousy. Been there.. I know. Heard that its even worse now. NZ, the DIY nation is frenly i suppose but kinda quiet. If you dont know how to socialise then you will be lonely.
On another note... Foodwise Msia is heaven!
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QUOTE(shea2812 @ Mar 23 2014, 06:59 PM)
how can you decide and you yourself dont actually know what its like out there.  Way I see it Malaysia still offers a lot.... well jobwise things are a little difficult now.  But so is Aus... that nation has been living on dirt for a decade, exporting minerals to the world's factory which is china.  Spore is getting too expensive and space is a premium.  Europe and Canada?  Climate is lousy.  Been there.. I know. Heard that its even worse now.  NZ, the DIY nation is frenly i suppose but kinda quiet.  If you dont know how to socialise then you will be lonely.
On another note... Foodwise Msia is heaven!
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I would suggest you go migrate either of this countries:

Canada, Taiwan,Hong Kong,United States,Japan.


My experience as football article writer+football match observer, I have been to many Asian countries except Middle East and South Asia countries which I only been to Qatar and India. If I were you, I would choose to migrate to Taipei,Taiwan. I will brush up my Mandarin speaking and writing skills so that I don't encounter more problems when I am at Taiwan soon. Now I am in the process of finding a degree course to study in KL for 1st yr then continue it at Taiwan..

By the way I am born in Kaoshiung on 28/12/1993 before raised in KL since 31/1/1994 till now smile.gif smile.gif

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post Apr 27 2014, 10:38 PM

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Hi,

Have you consider migrate to another country or getting their PR while remain as Malaysian?

If yes, which countries are you prefer and why?

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Did consider but gave up as the process is tedious. Secondly, those countries are not suffering from high unemployment so you may end up getting bullied and no better there than here. So better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
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QUOTE(zheng88 @ Apr 27 2014, 11:41 PM)
Did consider but gave up as the process is tedious. Secondly, those countries are not suffering from high unemployment so you may end up getting bullied and no better there than here. So better the devil you know than the devil you don't.
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Haha. Ya, every country migration process is tedious and costly.

But, I am asking for opinions.
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Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand.

And yes, i'll remain as Malaysian
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You can't be a PR of another country and remain in Msia in the long run. You will lose the PR status. The only way to retain any foreign status is to be a citizen of that country while remaining in Msia.
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Most will choose Aussie or nz.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Apr 28 2014, 10:55 PM)
You can't be a PR of another country and remain in Msia in the long run. You will lose the PR status. The only way to retain any foreign status is to be a citizen of that country while remaining in Msia.
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That means renouncing your Malaysian citizenship, which I don't think that's what TS is looking to do. Malaysia does not recognize dual citizenship, as far as I can remember.
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QUOTE(ketnave @ Apr 30 2014, 07:05 AM)
That means renouncing your Malaysian citizenship, which I don't think that's what TS is looking to do. Malaysia does not recognize dual citizenship, as far as I can remember.
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What you have said is true. Though there are a lot of Msians who have foreign citizenships still in Msia while the music is still playing.
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QUOTE(feynman @ Apr 30 2014, 07:34 AM)
What you have said is true. Though there are a lot of Msians who have foreign citizenships still in Msia while the music is still playing.
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laugh.gif Yes, I am aware of that too. It's all good until either country founds out laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ketnave @ Apr 30 2014, 08:15 AM)
laugh.gif Yes, I am aware of that too. It's all good until either country founds out laugh.gif
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In most cases, they only have to worry about Msia discovering that. Other countries (which most malaysians have acquired status from) will not care about it.
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I am in the process of executing my plan of moving to Japan.
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QUOTE(King83 @ Apr 30 2014, 05:14 PM)
I am in the process of executing my plan of moving to Japan.
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Could you share the costs, procedures and rules to migrate to Japan?


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QUOTE(rocketm @ Apr 27 2014, 10:38 PM)
Hi,

Have you consider migrate to another country or getting their PR while remain as Malaysian?

If yes, which countries are you prefer and why?
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yes, to a developed European country for better quality of life. clean air, low crime rate, health care, less stressful

QUOTE(feynman @ Apr 28 2014, 10:55 PM)
You can't be a PR of another country and remain in Msia in the long run. You will lose the PR status. The only way to retain any foreign status is to be a citizen of that country while remaining in Msia.
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if I understood TS question correctly, it means still being a malaysian citizen and holding a PR of another country. that is very common.

one will only lose the PR status if he/she is not in the foreign country for a predefined period of time.
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Going to European country may not as good as in the pass due to their economy is deteriorate.

We may hardly get job at there as well.
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QUOTE(rocketm @ Apr 30 2014, 09:27 PM)
Going to European country may not as good as in the pass due to their economy is deteriorate.

We may hardly get job at there as well.
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Europe is on the up now, so it's booming again after stagnation/recession for quite a long time

To get visa, you need to get a job first anyway.

A country will not simply allow you to migrate unless:
1. You have secured a job
2. Graduated from their local uni
3. Very rich
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QUOTE(feynman @ Apr 30 2014, 07:34 AM)
What you have said is true. Though there are a lot of Msians who have foreign citizenships still in Msia while the music is still playing.
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this loophole is tricky.

for instance i heard that those holding msia-aust citizenship, when they fly to malaysia from aust...they take out their msian passports but when they return from malaysia to aust...they need to flash their aussie passport because aust government won;t allow you to use other passport.

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QUOTE(Dharma123 @ May 1 2014, 12:05 AM)
this loophole is tricky.

for instance i heard that those holding msia-aust citizenship, when they fly to malaysia from aust...they take out their msian passports but when they return from malaysia to aust...they need to flash their aussie passport because aust government won;t allow you to use other passport.
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You have missed one step. They usually enter Msia through another country. The main issue here is that you left Msia and so your passport must have a stamp. The issue is more on Msia than Australia. Australia doesn't care if you have another passport, it will not penalise you for holding another citizenship.

Doing what you have just said won't fly.
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QUOTE(feynman @ May 1 2014, 09:29 AM)
You have missed one step. They usually enter Msia through another country. The main issue here is that you left Msia and so your passport must have a stamp. The issue is more on Msia than Australia. Australia doesn't care if you have another passport, it will not penalise you for holding another citizenship.

Doing what you have just said won't fly.
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That's meant that using Malaysia passport to enter Malaysia and Australia for those having Malaysia-Australia citizenship. The Australia passport will be keeping to show that they are Australia citizen ?
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u tak suka? no i never thought of migrating, been to many countries i must say u need to travel more first
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QUOTE(rocketm @ May 1 2014, 11:14 AM)
That's meant that using Malaysia passport to enter Malaysia and Australia for those having Malaysia-Australia citizenship. The Australia passport will be keeping to show that they are Australia citizen ?
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No. When you enter Australia, you must use the Australian passport. What they don't care is that you also possess a foreign passport other than an Australian one. Australia will not question why you hold a foreign passport in addition to your australian one.

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one will only lose the PR status if he/she is not in the foreign country for a predefined period of time.
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Depending on the PR conditions when applied also. Last time NZ got this one where you just make one official entry and you hold the PR status for life as long as you transfer the visa when you renew passport.
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QUOTE(munkeyflo @ May 1 2014, 09:17 PM)
Depending on the PR conditions when applied also. Last time NZ got this one where you just make one official entry and you hold the PR status for life as long as you transfer the visa when you renew passport.
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haha....that's not the correct definition of PR.
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haha....that's not the correct definition of PR.
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I don't remember defining PR in my post. Which part are you referring to?
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I don't remember defining PR in my post. Which part are you referring to?
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It refers to NZ giving a PR that doesn't require residents to reside in NZ. I guess it sounded so ludicrous that it has removed it.
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QUOTE(feynman @ May 2 2014, 03:22 PM)
It refers to NZ giving a PR that doesn't require residents to reside in NZ. I guess it sounded so ludicrous that it has removed it.
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It may sound ludicrous but I do know people that are holding that kind of PR status. laugh.gif I'm not sure if they have abolished that condition or it's still a possible option for those interest since this was back in about 2005 or so.
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I'm still a student actually, it is kind of my dream to work in a place where it has good living cost, economic stability, and a good community. I know now

everywhere's tough, but is there any suggestion, like Australia? Australia is really tough, I've heard people said they only got into a job for about 7 months, 4

months if you're lucky and also they have limited job scope. Will I have more benefits if I learn a few more foreign languages?
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LOL, is there really a "best" country...individual preference differs
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Sweden, Norway and Finland is best. Everything paid for education, medical, etc. You have the best rights in the world. Economy no. 1....
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Do you think I'm a little early like dream of migrating or working in other places, generally speaking, I don't have much experience in working in big companies.

Sweden/Norway/Finland is like first world country. The experience of working in Malaysia cannot be used in countries like that.
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Apr 16 2015, 05:38 PM)
Sweden, Norway and Finland is best. Everything paid for education, medical, etc. You have the best rights in the world. Economy no. 1....
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QUOTE(kron_ka @ Apr 16 2015, 05:50 PM)
the Breivik guy kill so many, only get life sentence.

So merciful country.

Hate or not, this shows they got a lot of patience.
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bcos they dont have gantung sampai mati sentence only. the guy got free meal n nice accomodation in their jails summore. haihh. such a waste.
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It is individual preference, but learn to speak their language if you wish to migrate to their country. Studying in their university is always the key to get into local job after graduation.

If your relying on job as first step, try international company which operates in Malaysia and any other country with the potential of moving abroad if there are opportunities. Make sure you have the set skills required to get employed within big organisations. Some countries have shortage of worker, i.e. in the UK they publish an updated skill shortage annually and if you have the skills which fall within the bucket, then your very welcome to apply and have higher chance being employed.

Australia is tough to get in because they are using point system based on the merit, education, English scoring (IELTS) and if you have any support, immediate family in Australia. My cousin had to wait nearly 1 year to get his visa approved but now I think he is full PR there.

Otherwise, there is Working Holidaymaker visa in the UK, Australia (unsure), NZ these are the popular destination.

Grass is always greener on the other side, you always heard of either positive side of that particular country or the negative side and until you experience it first hand, you will never know whether you will like it there.
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QUOTE(4agze @ Apr 16 2015, 06:01 PM)
It is individual preference, but learn to speak their language if you wish to migrate to their country. Studying in their university is always the key to get into local job after graduation.

If your relying on job as first step, try international company which operates in Malaysia and any other country with the potential of moving abroad if there are opportunities. Make sure you have the set skills required to get employed within big organisations. Some countries have shortage of worker, i.e. in the UK they publish an updated skill shortage annually and if you have the skills which fall within the bucket, then your very welcome to apply and have higher chance being employed.

Australia is tough to get in because they are using point system based on the merit, education, English scoring (IELTS) and if you have any support, immediate family in Australia. My cousin had to wait nearly 1 year to get his visa approved but now I think he is full PR there.

Otherwise, there is Working Holidaymaker visa in the UK, Australia (unsure), NZ these are the popular destination.

Grass is always greener on the other side, you always heard of either positive side of that particular country or the negative side and until you experience it first hand, you will never know whether you will like it there.
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Studying in overseas is a luxury that I cannot afford, I wasn't born silver spoon heheheh. So I guess I'll have to rely on my job, people have told me that

choosing a good company is the utmost important, gives you a lot of chances and benefits. I still have 2 years left to graduate, I think I might be too early

to think of working overseas, but still kudos to you, for your information, helps a lot. Guess I'll just have to focus on my studies at the moment now. Dream is

just a dream.

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QUOTE(darklord95 @ Apr 16 2015, 06:50 PM)
Studying in overseas is a luxury that I cannot afford, I wasn't born silver spoon heheheh. So I guess I'll have to rely on my job, people have told me that

choosing a good company is the utmost important, gives you a lot of chances and benefits. I still have 2 years left to graduate, I think I might be too early

to think of working overseas, but still kudos to you, for your information, helps a lot. Guess I'll just have to focus on my studies at the moment now. Dream is

just a dream.
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Neither do I but have worked my way and lady luck was on my side, they paid my University fee tongue.gif ... don't do it too late bro as the regulations keep changing, when there is chance grab it. You also need luck on your side.

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QUOTE(4agze @ Apr 16 2015, 08:12 PM)
Neither do I but have worked my way and lady luck was on my side, they paid my University fee  tongue.gif ... don't do it too late bro as the regulations keep changing, when there is chance grab it. You also need luck on your side.

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haha I guess I'm too late then, I have paid my fees for degree in local U, so I might as well finish the studies, if not the money would be wasted. When I was

younger, never thought of it too much, because I was thinking study where also the same one, right now I just feel like maybe next time I work, I wanna work

in a better condition you know, work-life balance, not like typical asians that work 24/7, that is not the life I wanted, but life's tough, I know, it's just my wishful

thinking.
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Life is as tough as you make yourself feel. But then there are joys in work too. They always tell nice stories from out there. I am yet to hear about them cold toilet seat in midwinter in North Of England or worse still in Jia-na-da as they say it!!!
Yeah home is still the best... that is my thought.
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Life is as tough as you make yourself feel.  But then there are joys in work too.  They always tell nice stories from out there.  I am yet to hear about them cold toilet seat in midwinter in North Of England or worse still in Jia-na-da as they say it!!!
Yeah home is still the best...  that is my thought.
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Yeah, that is also one reason why I would hear my cousins talk about their experience in working, mostly working overseas, I would always sit down and listen.

Australia has been a place I have always wanted to migrate to ever since I'm small, when I grew up, the dreams just get stronger, but I have not yet make

appropriate approaches to achieve it, right now I'm just a student, with nothing. The reason why is because I think they offer better lifestyle there, less crime

and stuffs, but climate change is also a bad thing too right there and also some of them might hate us, and treat us as immigrants. I don't really know, I'm

actually finding stories of the people who live in Australia, and say that they want to move back to Malaysia, due to reasons, etc etc, and some of them wanna

move to Australia, due to reasons,etc etc. Make comparison, and decide, that's all what I can do now, and I have 2 years left to graduate, no one knows what

2 years later how the economy will change in Australia, maybe applying to work there will become harder. Who knows? Wishful thinking. ;3
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it is kind of my dream to work in a place where it has good living cost, economic stability, and a good community. I know now
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It's 1Malaysia that you are looking for!!!!!!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

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QUOTE(darklord95 @ Apr 16 2015, 04:10 PM)
everywhere's tough, but is there any suggestion, like Australia? Australia is really tough, I've heard people said they only got into a job for about 7 months, 4

months if you're lucky and also they have limited job scope. Will I have more benefits if I learn a few more foreign languages?
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Sometimes I cannot understand ppl's obssession with Australia. rclxub.gif
The country is so far from others, so it's difficult when you want to travel/visit another country. Maybe someone can tell me more good things about Australia? hmm.gif

6 months is a standard job-hunting time frame. My friend spent 9 months doing nothing, just job-hunting and finally got a graduate level job with a big company in the UK. You need to sacrifice if you want to win! No pain no gain!

Since you're local uni student, maybe you can consider doing a student exchange to a foreign country. But make sure you have the right aim in mind, GET A JOB!! and not honeymoon! tongue.gif I often tell my friends that it's better to study in Germany than in private uni in Malaysia. If you want to learn a foreign language, learn German! Germany is still very welcoming compared to other countries. And with German, you can move to Switzerland or Austria next time. All German speaking countries have very high standard of living.
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QUOTE(darklord95 @ Apr 16 2015, 04:10 PM)
I'm still a student actually, it is kind of my dream to work in a place where it has good living cost, economic stability, and a good community. I know now

everywhere's tough, but is there any suggestion, like Australia? Australia is really tough, I've heard people said they only got into a job for about 7 months, 4

months if you're lucky and also they have limited job scope. Will I have more benefits if I learn a few more foreign languages?
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The best country is the one you can do business / make money easily... overseas is okay if you can get "paper married" with local ppl there, but if you start from bottom don't waste ur energy too much... nowadays economy is not stable ... arabs suffers cuz oil prices goes down, european suffers cuz prices too high... and etc...
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QUOTE(darklord95 @ Apr 17 2015, 12:17 AM)
Yeah, that is also one reason why I would hear my cousins talk about their experience in working, mostly working overseas, I would always sit down and listen.

Australia has been a place I have always wanted to migrate to ever since I'm small, when I grew up, the dreams just get stronger, but I have not yet make

appropriate approaches to achieve it, right now I'm just a student, with nothing. The reason why is because I think they offer better lifestyle there, less crime

and stuffs, but climate change is also a bad thing too right there and also some of them might hate us, and treat us as immigrants. I don't really know, I'm

actually finding stories of the people who live in Australia, and say that they want to move back to Malaysia, due to reasons, etc etc, and some of them wanna

move to Australia, due to reasons,etc etc. Make comparison, and decide, that's all what I can do now, and I have 2 years left to graduate, no one knows what

2 years later how the economy will change in Australia, maybe applying to work there will become harder. Who knows? Wishful thinking. ;3
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The first thing you need to change if you want to migrate to another country is your mindset. The mistake you are making now is by saying "I am just a student" and can therefore do nothing. If going to Australia is your dream, you must come up with a plan to get there.

Migrating is not easy, the host country generally only wants to get the best of the best. You cannot hope to put in an "average" amount of effort and hope that it will give you results. You need to put in exceptional effort.

Since your vision is "Migrate to Australia", start by identifying a few things that you can do right now to improve your chances. For example,

1. Can you speak, read, and write English fluently? At least fluent enough to get an 8 on the IELTS for each component of the exam? If you cannot, it's time to put together a plan to practise and improve your English so that you can achieve that kind of score. The reason for this is because the Australian skilled migrant system awards points to people based on their IELTS score.

2. Have you applied for, or completed, any internships with companies in the field you are studying? I take it you will want to go for a graduate job when you complete your studies. Employers will generally look favourably to graduates who have completed internships particularly in "well known" firms.

3. Are there any professional courses that you can do on the side while you are studying? By professional courses, I mean things like one (or more) levels of the CFA if you're studying finance, or some professional certifications, e.g. MCSE, Certified Java Programmer if you are studying IT/CS. If you are able to complete something like that, it would show to a potential employer that you are serious about the field you are in and willing to put in exceptional effort.

You should be waking up every morning thinking to yourself, "What can I do today to get closer to my dream?" By taking these baby steps towards your dream every day, I think you will have a much better chance of getting there in 2 years time.
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The first thing you need to change if you want to migrate to another country is your mindset. The mistake you are making now is by saying "I am just a student" and can therefore do nothing. If going to Australia is your dream, you must come up with a plan to get there.

Migrating is not easy, the host country generally only wants to get the best of the best. You cannot hope to put in an "average" amount of effort and hope that it will give you results. You need to put in exceptional effort.

Since your vision is "Migrate to Australia", start by identifying a few things that you can do right now to improve your chances. For example,

1. Can you speak, read, and write English fluently? At least fluent enough to get an 8 on the IELTS for each component of the exam? If you cannot, it's time to put together a plan to practise and improve your English so that you can achieve that kind of score. The reason for this is because the Australian skilled migrant system awards points to people based on their IELTS score.

2. Have you applied for, or completed, any internships with companies in the field you are studying? I take it you will want to go for a graduate job when you complete your studies. Employers will generally look favourably to graduates who have completed internships particularly in "well known" firms.

3. Are there any professional courses that you can do on the side while you are studying? By professional courses, I mean things like one (or more) levels of the CFA if you're studying finance, or some professional certifications, e.g. MCSE, Certified Java Programmer if you are studying IT/CS. If you are able to complete something like that, it would show to a potential employer that you are serious about the field you are in and willing to put in exceptional effort.

You should be waking up every morning thinking to yourself, "What can I do today to get closer to my dream?" By taking these baby steps towards your dream every day, I think you will have a much better chance of getting there in 2 years time.
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1. I actually do practice everyday. By reading and try to write something.

2. No, it will be 2 years now. Right now I am still uncertain of what I am going to be in the next 2 years. But I am already planning.

3. I have seen stuffs like this. I will take a look.

Thank you for your time for providing me useful and valuable opinions, Gursnagh.
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1. I actually do practice everyday. By reading and try to write something.

2. No, it will be 2 years from now. Right now I am still uncertain of what I am going to be in the next 2 years. But I am already planning.

3. I have seen stuffs like this. I will take a look.

Thank you for your time for providing me useful and valuable opinions, Gursnagh.
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OK, if you still have two years to go, you are still early in your path.

But you should try to look for an internship during your holidays in your second year at least. The internship helps you understand better what the working world is like. If it is a good internship, you might even be given a project that you can work on that helps the company. That will teach you a few other important things that you will need in your working life, e.g. the importance of deadlines, reporting what you do, and delivering results that meet expectations. If they don't give you a project, suggest one to them.

I studied overseas and I can tell you that almost 100% of the students at my university went looking for internships in their second year and then again in their third (final) year. Often, they would get a job offer from their third year internship which they would go to when they graduated. The second year internship was sometimes in something they ended up working in; for example, they would go to work in finance in their 2nd year and a second finance internship in their 3rd year and end up working in finance. But, sometimes, you would get people who do something totally different in their 2nd year internship and that was OK too.

I don't think this is so common in Malaysia but, again, the idea here is not to do "common" things but to do things that make you stand out in a positive way.
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you should just focus in your studies... if you have good grades you have better chances of going overseas to work.... similarly if you have good experience, people will want to hire you.... this is what its called brain drain....

but if you dont have either both, then perhaps you can hope that your parents can help you invest into the country that you like and that will save you all the trouble...

in the meantime, try to read a bit on business new daily to know what is going on around the world.. in a nutshell, when economy is down, no one will wanna hire you even you are good in anything...
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get to know yourself, what are your interest, what are your habits and then you go from there... Not go to another country because everyone says its good there..
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QUOTE(darklord95 @ Apr 16 2015, 04:10 PM)
I'm still a student actually, it is kind of my dream to work in a place where it has good living cost, economic stability, and a good community. I know now

everywhere's tough, but is there any suggestion, like Australia? Australia is really tough, I've heard people said they only got into a job for about 7 months, 4

months if you're lucky and also they have limited job scope. Will I have more benefits if I learn a few more foreign languages?
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living cost, lifestyle

selects austrialia

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If you are outstanding in your field, many countries will welcome you with open arms.

There are many grants and scholarships available, you just need to look.

Working and living overseas is an invaluable experience. However, it is not for everyone.

Good luck.
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I think United States are much easier to get a job compared to Australia and England. Fluent in Chinese and English put you in a better position in job search in those developed countries as most major companies are trying to do business with the chinese
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What's the best country to migrate to and how you did it
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portland, nice place to work

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Sorry. I thought this was kopitiam! Anyway, I chose Cardiff, Wales. Been here about 15 odd years. Love it here. Lovely city, beautiful countryside.
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Sorry. I thought this was kopitiam!  Anyway, I chose Cardiff, Wales. Been here about 15 odd years. Love it here. Lovely city, beautiful countryside.
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pros n cons?
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there's no 'best' country. If there were, everyone would be migrating there already.

What's best for you may not be best for others.

for example, angmo are exalted in asia and they get expat pay here. So they may think Malaysia and Singapore as the best, especially SG with low taxes.

if you're lgbt, you may think countries that legalise the marriage as ideal as they are more open-minded.

if you're chinese, you may like taiwan as you'd be treated the same like a local. It could feel like a family.
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Of course... the land of freedom, where one can survive by hunting animals with just guns and ammo and nothing else. Great car with pure raw american power, nice food that garantee u can gain weight.
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Pros: Nice, compact city, multi-cultural, quiet. I love the greenery, you are never far from the countryside. Good cycle trails (Taff and Ely), my favourite.

Cons: Lacking career opportunities, esp tech based, hence not suited for 'younger' people, I guess. The Welsh can be rather parochial.

Like TSOM says, there is no 'best country'. All depends on what you are after. I am semi-retired, so it suits me. smile.gif
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Sorry. I thought this was kopitiam!  Anyway, I chose Cardiff, Wales. Been here about 15 odd years. Love it here. Lovely city, beautiful countryside.
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 11 2016, 04:49 AM)
Pros: Nice, compact city, multi-cultural, quiet. I love the greenery, you are never far from the countryside.  Good cycle trails (Taff and Ely), my favourite.

Cons: Lacking career opportunities, esp tech based, hence not suited for 'younger' people, I guess. The Welsh can be rather parochial.

Like TSOM says, there is no 'best country'. All depends on what you are after. I am semi-retired, so it suits me.  smile.gif
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Funny that I rather think them Welsh were pretty pleasant when I was there many years ago. I suppose time have changed that Then again that was Swansea. Did feel that Cardiff was not the same then.
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But seriously, I'm considering Canada, specifically Toronto or anywhere else in Ontario.
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Funny that I rather think them Welsh were pretty pleasant when I was there many years ago.  I suppose time have changed that  Then again that was Swansea.  Did feel that Cardiff was not the same then.
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Don't get me wrong. The Welsh are great, friendly people. In fact they have welcomed more refugees than the English or Scots. Cardiff being a coal and iron ore port in the 19th and 20th century makes it a very cosmopolitan city. Areas of Butetown and Grangetown are heavily populated with North Africans and Asians. Its when you go north of Cardiff onwards, (the Valleys) then the landscape gets whiter laugh.gif

What I mean by Welsh being parochial is they are very nationalistic. The don't like the English and top positions are very usually kept for themselves. You see that distinction in academia as well. I'm generalising a bit here but just to give you an idea. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 12 2016, 01:02 PM)
Don't get me wrong. The Welsh are great, friendly people. In fact they have welcomed more refugees than the English or Scots. Cardiff being a coal and iron ore port in the 19th and 20th century makes it a very cosmopolitan city. Areas of Butetown and Grangetown are heavily populated with North Africans and Asians. Its when you go north of Cardiff onwards, (the Valleys) then the landscape gets whiter  laugh.gif

What I mean by Welsh being parochial is they are very nationalistic. The don't like the English and top positions are very usually kept for themselves. You see that distinction in academia as well. I'm generalising a bit here but just to give you an idea.  laugh.gif
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Ques:
1) how did u end up in Cardiff?

2) was finding a job there a problem?


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Ques:
1) how did u end up in Cardiff?
I was in my late 30's, wanted a career and life change, so decided to take up PhD at Cardiff University. Mid-life crisis, lol. Uprooted 2 kids, wife and myself. Friends thought I was crazy then!  biggrin.gif .

2) was finding a job there a problem?
Depending on type of jobs tbh. As a student then, I could work 20 hours a week. Not difficult. Student unions advertise job vacancies. As a student then, I work in a cake factory and then at Boots the Chemist warehouse. The latter was a much better job. My wife could work as well. So we never had to fork out much savings from back home. The wages were good, paid our rent, makan and bills.  biggrin.gif

TBH, things are very different nowadays since Eastern Europeans (Polish, Slovakians, Bulgarians etc) start flooding the UK job market around 2004/5. Lower end jobs are mostly dominated by them. Locals won't do it, non EU are squeezed out. Looking around I see a lot of non EU tend to work in respective takeaways or have their own small business. Professional jobs are the way to go if you are keen to settle in UK.

BTW, immigration rule have changed so much since I came. I guess I was lucky to have made a decision to move when I did. Even Americans, Canadians, Oz and NZ citizens are finding difficulty in securing jobs or PR. Anyway, Brexit will turn the tables against EU citizens. Perhaps UK will favour the Commonwealth once again! Who knows?  biggrin.gif

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Australia is relatively easy with the condition u have good background and financial steady
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If you earn rm20k month in Malaysia, would you give it up to migrate?
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Malaysia still. Won't migrate
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Wales is too boring. I'd rather be in Brum, Manchester, Bristol or Glasgow. Big lively cities but not outrageously expensive. I feel slightly regretful about not staying on in the UK after my studies. But that ship has sailed.
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Never did like Brits weather. Pretty wet in South Wales. People were great tho...managed to pick up a bit of their accent after a short study stint and I carried that to Noorthern England. Many times I got this funny look..'You dont look like Welsh to me!!".... ha ha
I suppose after all these years I do kinda think that in a gobal world now places really are just the same. Its them people that makes them different. Many who get to do stints in those faraway places never really gets that.
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Never been to Wales but Penzance and Edinburgh, i think somehow Scottish more open to immigrants rather than English people? Too bad they dont have the autonomy in fixing immigration policy otherwise I will be there...
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 12 2016, 01:02 PM)
Don't get me wrong. The Welsh are great, friendly people. In fact they have welcomed more refugees than the English or Scots. Cardiff being a coal and iron ore port in the 19th and 20th century makes it a very cosmopolitan city. Areas of Butetown and Grangetown are heavily populated with North Africans and Asians. Its when you go north of Cardiff onwards, (the Valleys) then the landscape gets whiter  laugh.gif

What I mean by Welsh being parochial is they are very nationalistic. The don't like the English and top positions are very usually kept for themselves. You see that distinction in academia as well. I'm generalising a bit here but just to give you an idea.  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(shea2812 @ Sep 14 2016, 05:22 AM)
Never did like Brits weather.  Pretty wet in South Wales.  People were great tho...managed to pick up a bit of their accent after a short study stint and I carried that to Noorthern England.  Many times I got this funny look..'You dont look like Welsh to me!!"....  ha ha
I suppose after all these years I do kinda think that in a gobal world now places really are just the same.  Its them people that makes them different.  Many who get to do stints in those faraway places never really gets that.
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Btw this summer has been great. Long sunny days, short nights, fire up the outdoor pizza oven, wine and beers....this is the life!

You are right. The winter can drag though. But Wales is home for me. It's safe, comfortable and peaceful.
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 17 2016, 04:14 PM)
Btw this summer has been great. Long sunny days, short nights,  fire up the outdoor pizza oven, wine and beers....this is the life!
You are right. The winter can drag though. But Wales is home for me. It's safe, comfortable and peaceful.
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nice sharing.
a bit off topic, but why you anti-Nestle?
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for me is new zealand .....

see more cow n tree n less human ...

human like to lie n "racing".... me already fed up ....

talk to cow n flower is more 'pure' ... thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 9 2016, 02:03 PM)
Sorry. I thought this was kopitiam!  Anyway, I chose Cardiff, Wales. Been here about 15 odd years. Love it here. Lovely city, beautiful countryside.
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nice sharing.
a bit off topic, but why you anti-Nestle?
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QUOTE(will4848 @ Sep 17 2016, 09:22 PM)
for me is new zealand .....

see more cow n tree n less human ...

human like to lie n "racing".... me already fed up ....

talk to cow n flower is more 'pure' ...  thumbsup.gif
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#2 is hard to get their citizenship. sad.gif
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nice sharing.
a bit off topic, but why you anti-Nestle?
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LOL, it started many years back when my kids came back from school and announced we all need to be 'anti-nestle'.
Lots of topics on this. TBH, Nestle has such a huge grip on the food industry, no way we can completely stop Nestle.
Just google their confectionery range for instance! Its just a gesture that they should help the community more.


https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-bus...nestle-facebook

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en...-change/kitkat/

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree

https://www.facebook.com/antinestle/

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depend. u migrate with money or not?
migrate with zero income/money any country also u will feel like bangla
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QUOTE(Quang1819 @ Sep 17 2016, 09:45 PM)
Just curious, but are people there racist?
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Subjective really. Don't they say racism is everywhere and anywhere? How does one measure racism? You do read of racially motivated attacks off and on in newspapers. There seems to be a rise in attacks on Muslims and recently in the wake of Brexit, there has been a rise in anti-Polish and Eastern Europeans. The papers here tend to over hype everything. But on a personal level, I have never been faced with racial abuse nor have I witness one myself. I have often discussed this matter with my family, wife and kids but they have the same story.

The neighbourhood where I live is rather mixed and has been peaceful. My workmates are nice people and I have made many good friends here. To put things in a nutshell, I think at a face to face level, or in dealing with people here in general, they show very little if any racial connotations. What they really feel in their mind and heart may be completely different.

There are robust laws here against discrimination and racism. On the whole I feel less discriminated here than Malaysia simply because in Malaysia racism is institutionalised. For example by the time you are born, you are either a non or a bumi. And then as you move on in life you realise that university places are again subject to this policy, etc, etc. That kind of discrimination, you don't face here. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(will4848 @ Sep 17 2016, 09:22 PM)
for me is new zealand .....

see more cow n tree n less human ...

human like to lie n "racing".... me already fed up ....

talk to cow n flower is more 'pure' ...  thumbsup.gif
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If you dont mind the fact that even chicken taste like lamb NZ is not bad!!!
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I love the sceneries and landscape in canada, and also their lifestyle. But it's so hard for immigrants there
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 18 2016, 12:23 AM)
Subjective really. Don't they say racism is everywhere and anywhere? How does one measure racism? You do read of racially motivated attacks off and on in newspapers. There seems to be a rise in attacks on Muslims and recently in the wake of Brexit, there has been a rise in anti-Polish and Eastern Europeans. The papers here tend to over hype everything. But on a personal level, I have never been faced with racial abuse nor have I witness one myself. I have often discussed this matter with my family, wife and kids but they have the same story.

The neighbourhood where I live is rather mixed and has been peaceful. My workmates are nice people and I have made many good friends here. To put things in a nutshell, I think at a face to face level, or in dealing with people here in general, they show very little if any racial connotations.  What they really feel in their mind and heart may be completely different. 

There are robust laws here against discrimination and racism. On the whole I feel less discriminated here than Malaysia simply because in Malaysia racism is institutionalised. For example by the time you are born, you are either a non or a bumi. And then as you move on in life you realise that university places are again subject to this policy, etc, etc. That kind of discrimination, you don't face here.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I was supposed to ask about your personal experience there haha

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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 9 2016, 02:03 PM)
Sorry. I thought this was kopitiam!  Anyway, I chose Cardiff, Wales. Been here about 15 odd years. Love it here. Lovely city, beautiful countryside.
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If you don't mind, could you tell us which industry you're currently working in ?
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consider canada? they have express entry program.
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Fast track for those with badly needed skill. I said it before... Canada is like OZ and NZ. No local experience...tough luck.

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What do you mean by express entry?
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 18 2016, 10:03 PM)
I'm in my 50's now. So now just work in retail part time to cover monthly expenses. Too old and too tired to be doing anything 'serious' now tbh.
If you follow some of my early 'education' threads you probably know my background.  Life is short, enjoy yourself before its too late! YOLO all the way now. smile.gif
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What do you mean by express entry?
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fast track program, in 6-8 months can get the PR card already.
my colleague already got her, quite easy I would say.
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 17 2016, 11:58 PM)
LOL, it started many years back when my kids came back from school and announced we all need to be 'anti-nestle'.
Lots of topics on this. TBH, Nestle has such a huge grip on the food industry, no way we can completely stop Nestle.
Just google their confectionery range for instance! Its just a gesture that they should help the community more.
https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-bus...nestle-facebook

http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en...-change/kitkat/

http://www.babymilkaction.org/nestlefree

https://www.facebook.com/antinestle/

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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 18 2016, 12:23 AM)
Subjective really. Don't they say racism is everywhere and anywhere? How does one measure racism? You do read of racially motivated attacks off and on in newspapers. There seems to be a rise in attacks on Muslims and recently in the wake of Brexit, there has been a rise in anti-Polish and Eastern Europeans. The papers here tend to over hype everything. But on a personal level, I have never been faced with racial abuse nor have I witness one myself. I have often discussed this matter with my family, wife and kids but they have the same story.

The neighbourhood where I live is rather mixed and has been peaceful. My workmates are nice people and I have made many good friends here. To put things in a nutshell, I think at a face to face level, or in dealing with people here in general, they show very little if any racial connotations.  What they really feel in their mind and heart may be completely different. 

There are robust laws here against discrimination and racism. On the whole I feel less discriminated here than Malaysia simply because in Malaysia racism is institutionalised. For example by the time you are born, you are either a non or a bumi. And then as you move on in life you realise that university places are again subject to this policy, etc, etc. That kind of discrimination, you don't face here.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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I know what you mean. After some 59yrs born above Singapore, still the D Y M M with all due respect, still treats a part of the population like step children. You know, like P. Ramlee movies.

QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 18 2016, 10:03 PM)
I'm in my 50's now. So now just work in retail part time to cover monthly expenses. Too old and too tired to be doing anything 'serious' now tbh.
If you follow some of my early 'education' threads you probably know my background.  Life is short, enjoy yourself before its too late! YOLO all the way now. smile.gif
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How I wish can enjoy life like you.
How did you began your journey to migrate?
Got tips to share?
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+1
I know what you mean. After some 59yrs born above Singapore, still the D Y M M with all due respect, still treats a part of the population like step children. You know, like P. Ramlee movies.
How I wish can enjoy life like you.
How did you began your journey to migrate?
Got tips to share?
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You know the saying 'I envy you, you envy me!'. Many who have migrated will not tell you the hard slog and hardship they have to face initially. TBH, its no plain sailing, for me anyway. I uprooted the family to make it in a 'new' place. It was like 'do or die'. If I had to pack our bags and 'balik kampong', I donno. Perhaps all my friends and relatives will laugh at me saying 'I told you so'. All in all, it took me and my family 7 long years of uncertainty before ILR (indefinite leave, i.e. PR) came to fruition. So where to begin? Let's see...

1) Do plenty of research. Seek all avenues. Regularly check up on immigration rules of that particular country. Rules keep changing!

2) Join some immigration forums. Look up the internet, there are plenty. Learn from other people's experience. mistakes.

3) Have not only Plan A, but Plan B and even Plan C. For example when our ILR seems doomed at one point, we even look at Canada as an option.

4) Have enough resources before you take the plunge. By that I mean enough savings to stretch you out say over 6 months without income.

5) Ask yourself if you really like the country you want to migrate to. Going there on holiday is very different from living in that country.

6) Are you prepared to leave all your creature comforts, your relations, friends, your 'status', job, etc, etc for a new life? You can get very lonely and frustrated in a new place!

The more prepared you are, the more confident you will be in taking up the challenge.


...finally, if all this end in failure, can you take it in the chin and tell yourself, 'At least I tried, and I have nothing to lose!' If you have to balik kampong and eat the humble pie, how? sweat.gif

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QUOTE(MCSH @ Sep 17 2016, 12:11 PM)
Malaysia is great if you are well off.  Penang is considered one of the best place for retirement for foreigners😀
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i wanna apply canada express entry soon.

need to take ielts.

i hope i can get nominated since i got a degree from canadian uni
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i wanna apply canada express entry soon.

need to take ielts.

i hope i can get nominated since i got a degree from canadian uni
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I that express entry requires someone that is willing to sponsor you?

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I that express entry requires someone that is willing to sponsor you?
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no need to sponsor.

this express entry is point based. hurm i tried to roughly calculate mine, got around 380 points.

usually minimum points to be invited somewhere close to 500.

if you got job offer event better, can add 600 to ur points.
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Oh really .. OK.
I thought it requires sponsoring. Do you need to wait for certain of time before approving your PR or immediate?

BTW, I was informed that Canada, esp at Vancouver has frequent earthquakes ...
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Hi guys, if we migrate

1) my car still at Malaysia, want to keep it coz I will go back frequently and drive. What should I do ? do I need to go jpj change ownership ? But still consider same person right ? No charges ? And next time to renew insurance and road tax, any problem ?

2) next time I take flight back to singapore, can I claim for tax refund for my purchases ?

3) I do not own any other asset apart from the car, any other thing I should take care of after I got the new citizenship ? In term of finances or banking issue? I do have a bank account and quite a lot of credit card in Malaysia ....

Please advice. Thanks.

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it all depends on your criterion for migrating
for me ive been in new zealand for almost a year now, and i have to say the country suits me the absolute best

1 : the most important factor, high pay. but payscales depends on what you're working as. if you're on the skill shortage list, then the pay is very good. for me, im doing automotive engineering and i still get paid a qualified techican's pay although im just doing part time @ 25$/hr since i got a diploma

2 : the quality of life here is extremely high. clean air, clear surroundings, breathtaking sceneries, and the hustle and bustle of a metropolis in the heart of the cbd.

3 : stable temperature all year round. spring and autumn averages 13 degrees every single day with chances of rain. but winter and summer can get brutal though, this year winter drops to 0 degrees at the lowest point, but other than tht it hovers around 5~8 degrees (at night). when i arrived, summer was almost over. there was no wind at night in summer, and temperatures hovers around 20~25 during the day. at night its around 18~22.

4 : more culturally diverse than malaysia (this is true to the bone). there are genuine european, asian, and american food here. one sushi place i've been going to is ran by a genuine japanese chef. another ramen joint is also ran by a japanese. and the food here, it's pretty hard to find terrible food haha

5 : if nature escapades are ur thing, south island! queenstown, dunedin, christchurch, invercargill, and the glacier passes. then there's great barrier island and stewart island!

6 : houses are (still) affordable. a modest condominium unit (they call it apartments here) costs in between 600k ~ 1m $ for the highest end ones. if you're getting paid 40$ an hr (100k p/a) , you can definitely afford one.

7 : sheer driving pleasure, literally. windy roads, scenics drives, and most importantly, no need for ac! wind down ur window and u can feel the cold air! you could just rent a bmw m5 or something and go cross continent with it. not kidding

all in all, it all boils down to what you want that country to be like, and how u want to live your life!
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A country with basic human rights, women rights, justice system and fair, free from corruption, low crime, how they treat animals, children welfare, nice education system, jobs opportunity focus on their own citizens compare to give vacancy to aliens.
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QUOTE(malayantiger @ Sep 21 2016, 04:32 AM)
You know the saying 'I envy you, you envy me!'. Many who have migrated will not tell you the hard slog and hardship they have to face initially. TBH, its no plain sailing, for me anyway. I uprooted the family to make it in a 'new' place. It was like 'do or die'. If I had to pack our bags and 'balik kampong', I donno. Perhaps all my friends and relatives will laugh at me saying 'I told you so'. All in all, it took me and my family 7 long years of uncertainty before ILR (indefinite leave, i.e. PR) came to fruition. So where to begin? Let's see...

1) Do plenty of research. Seek all avenues. Regularly check up on immigration rules of that particular country. Rules keep changing!

2) Join some immigration forums. Look up the internet, there are plenty. Learn from other people's experience. mistakes.

3) Have not only Plan A, but Plan B and even Plan C. For example when our ILR seems doomed at one point, we even look at Canada as an option.

4) Have enough resources before you take the plunge. By that I mean enough savings to stretch you out say over 6 months without income.

5) Ask yourself if you really like the country you want to migrate to. Going there on holiday is very different from living in that country.

6) Are you prepared to leave all your creature comforts, your relations, friends, your 'status', job, etc, etc for a new life? You can get very lonely and frustrated in a new place!

The more prepared you are, the more confident you will be in taking up the challenge.
...finally, if all this end in failure, can you take it in the chin and tell yourself, 'At least I tried, and I have nothing to lose!' If you have to balik kampong and eat the humble pie, how?  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(iambloodymuch @ Sep 23 2016, 09:56 AM)
no need to sponsor.

this express entry is point based. hurm i tried to roughly calculate mine, got around 380 points.

usually minimum points to be invited somewhere close to 500.

if you got job offer event better, can add 600 to ur points.
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Looking good!!

QUOTE(duck v3 @ Sep 25 2016, 09:35 AM)
it all depends on your criterion for migrating
for me ive been in new zealand for almost a year now, and i have to say the country suits me the absolute best

1 : the most important factor, high pay. but payscales depends on what you're working as. if you're on the skill shortage list, then the pay is very good. for me, im doing automotive engineering and i  still get paid a qualified techican's pay although im just doing part time @ 25$/hr since i got a diploma

2 : the quality of life here is extremely high. clean air, clear surroundings, breathtaking sceneries, and the hustle and bustle of a metropolis in the heart of the cbd.

3 : stable temperature all year round. spring and autumn averages 13 degrees every single day with chances of rain. but winter and summer can get brutal though, this year winter drops to 0 degrees at the lowest point, but other than tht it hovers around 5~8 degrees (at night). when i arrived, summer was almost over. there was no wind at night in summer, and temperatures hovers around 20~25 during the day. at night its around 18~22.

4 : more culturally diverse than malaysia (this is true to the bone). there are genuine european, asian, and american food here. one sushi place i've been going to is ran by a genuine japanese chef. another ramen joint is also ran by a japanese. and the food here, it's pretty hard to find terrible food haha

5 : if nature escapades are ur thing, south island! queenstown, dunedin, christchurch, invercargill, and the glacier passes.  then there's great barrier island and stewart island!

6 : houses are (still) affordable. a modest condominium unit (they call it apartments here) costs in between 600k ~ 1m $ for the highest end ones. if you're getting paid 40$ an hr (100k p/a) , you can definitely afford one.

7 : sheer driving pleasure, literally. windy roads, scenics drives, and most importantly, no need for ac! wind down ur window and u can feel the cold air! you could just rent a bmw m5 or something and go cross continent with it. not kidding

all in all, it all boils down to what you want that country to be like, and how u want to live your life!
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Sweet! How I wish....
How did you first get citizenship to NZ?
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Sweet! How I wish....
How did you first get citizenship to NZ?
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no citizenship yet, im still studying haha
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post Sep 30 2016, 12:42 AM

Disregard females,Acquire aesthetics..u mirin'?
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Im not considered as fully migrated as im working overseas but im still based in Malaysia..maybe 2-3 months in a year ill be back..

Im paying tax in the Netherlands. No idea what the future holds but I still like staying in Malaysia. if situation deteriorates I will consider migrating to Netherlands
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post Jul 11 2017, 03:15 PM

Look at all my stars!!
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takshkent, good income. stable country, nice girls
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Cool

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I love the sceneries and landscape in canada, and also their lifestyle. But it's so hard for immigrants there
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Hello there! Mind if I ask why is it harder there as immigrants? Job wise??
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post Oct 21 2017, 07:56 AM

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Canada is like OZ and NZ. Companies want people with local experiences. Foreign education and work experiences come to naught. Emigration usually means starting all over ...from the bottom . The exception is those who go thru internal transfer or being head hunter.
Goto www.cbc.ca and type in fake degree in the search box. Read marketplace report and you know why companies are leery or foreign qualification. The irony is when I was a student many years ago, CBC aired commercials urging companies to hire foreigners. Those commercials were paid for by the feds. Also companies were accused of racism for not accepting foreign qualification. Now a 180 degree turn. Oh...back then, foreigners were called immigrants. Now the politically correct term is Canadians



QUOTE(Tomokitsu @ Oct 19 2017, 12:38 AM)
Hello there! Mind if I ask why is it harder there as immigrants? Job wise??
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QUOTE(Voblov Yuri @ Sep 26 2016, 10:22 AM)
A country with basic human rights, women rights, justice system and fair, free from corruption,  low crime, how they treat animals, children welfare, nice education system, jobs opportunity focus on their own citizens compare to give vacancy to aliens.
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Anyone mind to share which is the closest that u have in mind? Hehehe I am curious to know.. biggrin.gif
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Go to canada, try hard to get pr. Then no work every month gomen will oso give out welfare payment. a lot better than brim. no need work oso can survive. deswai many illegal migrants go there these few years. i oso wanna go, still do research.
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I still hesitate whether to apply for permanent resident in Japan although I was allowed 5 years of staying which can be renewed by company. I had fit much of the following requirement which Japanese immigration had alleviated in recent years.

[+] 5 years and above in Japan
[+] Being a professional individual
[+] Employed in Japanese companies

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post Nov 16 2019, 06:34 AM

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QUOTE(Alpha 18 @ Jan 5 2018, 09:18 PM)
Go to canada, try hard to get pr. Then no work every month gomen will oso give out welfare payment. a lot better than brim. no need work oso can survive. deswai many illegal migrants go there these few years. i oso wanna go, still do research.
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This is an old post but also very wrong. The 'welfare payment' you are referring to here is the Employment Insurance ("EI"). It's not given to you just because you menganggur. EI is only available for those who have been working and have been contributing to EI for a certain number of years. That means if you show up, no work, then you will not qualify. The EI payment is also not a lot, it is usually around 50% of your last paycheck, and the intention is to help you manage while you get back on your feet. In addition, as an EI recipient you will be required to consistently show the efforts you are putting into finding your next job. Yes, there are people who try to make these kind of social benefits as their income but it will not last long, the government are good at finding out and if you are charged with EI fraud, guess what, it will be an amount owing and you have to pay back to the government also.

If you are interested to immigrate to Canada, first step is to start your research at:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refuge...ress-entry.html

You will quickly realize there are high standards as to who Canada will welcome into their open immigration program, as they want new Canadians who have the means and capability to contribute to the society, not to become a leech there.
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post Nov 18 2019, 07:20 AM

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You are wrong. Social welfare includes Socil; assistant, child benefits, Old Age Security, Guarantee Income Supplement EI,CPP Worker Compensation etc. Your description regarding EI is right Once a person EI runs out then it is Social assistant and the amount vary from province to province. You are in Wildrose Country and a single employable person only receive $7524 a year. Including other provincial and federal benefits, the maximum paid out is $8106 a year Over the last 2 decades both the federal and provincials govts have claw back the amount paid out to discourage people of turning to Social Assistant as a lifestyle Just look at those seasonal workers eg agriculture and fishing. Work x amount of months. Go on EI(in the old days it was known as UIC) then social assistant. Year after year the cycle repeat it self Every time the govt clawback those on assistant complain like hell. Nowadays most seasonal workers in agriculture and fishing are those temporary foreign workers
What high standards??? You say you are in Cowtown. Have you been to those ethnic ghettos like Chinatown little India ? Have you not come across people who cant speak English? These people migrate via the famlily reunification route...easiest and the lowest standard



QUOTE(jouhaiichi_gou @ Nov 16 2019, 06:34 AM)
This is an old post but also very wrong. The 'welfare payment' you are referring to here is the Employment Insurance ("EI"). It's not given to you just because you menganggur. EI is only available for those who have been working and have been contributing to EI for a certain number of years. That means if you show up, no work, then you will not qualify. The EI payment is also not a lot, it is usually around 50% of your last paycheck, and the intention is to help you manage while you get back on your feet. In addition, as an EI recipient you will be required to consistently show the efforts you are putting into finding your next job. Yes, there are people who try to make these kind of social benefits as their income but it will not last long, the government are good at finding out and if you are charged with EI fraud, guess what, it will be an amount owing and you have to pay back to the government also.

If you are interested to immigrate to Canada, first step is to start your research at:

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refuge...ress-entry.html

You will quickly realize there are high standards as to who Canada will welcome into their open immigration program, as they want new Canadians who have the means and capability to contribute to the society, not to become a leech there.
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QUOTE(segamatboy @ Nov 18 2019, 07:20 AM)
You are wrong. Social welfare includes Socil; assistant, child benefits, Old Age Security, Guarantee Income Supplement EI,CPP Worker Compensation etc. Your description regarding EI is right Once a person EI runs out then it is Social assistant and the amount vary from province to province. You are in Wildrose Country and  a single employable person only receive $7524 a year. Including other provincial and federal benefits, the maximum paid out is $8106 a year Over the last 2 decades  both the federal and provincials govts  have claw back the amount paid out to discourage people of turning to Social Assistant as a lifestyle Just look at those seasonal workers eg  agriculture and fishing. Work x amount of months. Go on EI(in the old days it was known as UIC) then  social assistant. Year after year the cycle repeat it self Every time the govt clawback those on assistant complain like hell. Nowadays most seasonal workers  in agriculture and fishing are those temporary foreign workers
What high standards???  You say you are in Cowtown. Have you been to those ethnic ghettos like Chinatown little India ? Have you not come across people who cant speak English? These people migrate via the famlily reunification route...easiest and the lowest standard
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As a newcomer via the Express Entry route, I would say that open immigration is still reserved for those candidates with high qualification and good working experience. I have no comment on family reunification route. I would assume those in charge of making policies would have made their policies based on what they think is right.

I'm not sure what point you are trying to make here. My point was just that immigrating to Canada on your own, will be based on merit, and not something you could do just because you want to 'take advantage' of social benefits that are made available to Canadians here.

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QUOTE(StationMonkey @ May 6 2012, 07:51 PM)
If I wanna migrate to another country, which country is the best option considering that i'm going there sehelai sepinggang?

In terms of living cost, economic stability, good community etc.
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from my opinion the best country for software engineer is Germany. There are lots of jobs.
for more information you can call to the lawyers in :https://irantogermany.com
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