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 The Weight Loss Thread v3, Ask your weight loss questions here.

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Sarah Angelina
post Jul 20 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 19 2012, 09:50 PM)
Thats what i have most of the time  tongue.gif
Except i season it with Lea & Perrins sauce. Lol.
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Look like I can steal recipe a bit. Haha
the white mushroom? Shitake? Hmm, but I like that canned mushroom more
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 18 2012, 09:09 PM)
What's with the craze on low carbs? Just eat below maintenance, have a balanced diet, remove all junk and as much refined foodstuff as possible.
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Don't agree.

With the right regimen (diet, exercise, rest, etc) a low-carb diet (either high Protein/med fat or vice versa) can cut body fat quickly while retaining good LBM.

Caloric deficit is a bit of a myth - 1 calorie of carbs doesn't affect your body in the same way as 1 cal of fat or protein. In fact the word "calorie" itself is misleading.


Added on July 20, 2012, 11:47 am
QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 18 2012, 01:57 PM)
Whoa, thanks!
I'm looking through all, but because I'm a small eater, even though supposedly to have 1200 calories intake after minus 20% of deficit, but I could only manage to take in about 800 maximum  sweat.gif

I do eat a lot of apples as my in between snack, else would be only chicken breast with vege as salad, and milk (anlene!) and eggs, and fruits again  sweat.gif

Due to after going through some reading, found out that apple is kinda high in carbs and I would wish to maintain a low carbs diet, thus now eye-ing around and asking and reading and confusing  doh.gif  sweat.gif
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800 calories a day?!?!??!? Are you kidding me!

There are starving peasants in India or China that manage to eat more than that!
Increase calories asap.

You are screwing up your body, metabolism and digestive system big-time. Low weight, low calorie doesn't always equals healthy.

If you are seriously eating 800 calories a day I will advise you to add a big mac to your diet every single day.

This post has been edited by DJJD: Jul 20 2012, 11:47 AM
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
Don't agree.

With the right regimen (diet, exercise, rest, etc) a low-carb diet (either high Protein/med fat or vice versa) can cut body fat quickly while retaining good LBM.

Caloric deficit is a bit of a myth - 1 calorie of carbs doesn't affect your body in the same way as 1 cal of fat or protein. In fact the word "calorie" itself is misleading.
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For beginners, there's no need for the obsession in my opinion. The eventual result will be the same, not much of a big difference in terms of duration. In obese people, what's more important is the removal of refined carbs and empty calories.
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 20 2012, 10:38 AM)
Look like I can steal recipe a bit. Haha
the white mushroom? Shitake? Hmm, but I like that canned mushroom more
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I mix both. White mushroom and Canned mushroom + Chicken Fillets, diced . Here's a picture smile.gif
5 White mushrooms, 5 mushrooms in the can, dice it. Pan-fry with olive oil, L&P Sauce, italian herbs, pepper and a lil' bit of BBQ sauce ( Hunt's BBQ Sauce Original )
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post Jul 20 2012, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 20 2012, 11:43 AM)
Don't agree.

With the right regimen (diet, exercise, rest, etc) a low-carb diet (either high Protein/med fat or vice versa) can cut body fat quickly while retaining good LBM.

Caloric deficit is a bit of a myth - 1 calorie of carbs doesn't affect your body in the same way as 1 cal of fat or protein. In fact the word "calorie" itself is misleading.


Added on July 20, 2012, 11:47 am

800 calories a day?!?!??!? Are you kidding me!

There are starving peasants in India or China that manage to eat more than that!
Increase calories asap.

You are screwing up your body, metabolism and digestive system big-time. Low weight, low calorie doesn't always equals healthy.

If you are seriously eating 800 calories a day I will advise you to add a big mac to your diet every single day.
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Yes, that's the reason why I'm facing problem with diets sweat.gif
Don't say big mac la, even McNuggets set also I can't complete a set by myself, I could only eat up to about 4-5 pieces of nuggets, 1/3 cup of the drink then I'm all done already, and that could actually last me for about half a day. sweat.gif sweat.gif

QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 20 2012, 12:54 PM)
I mix both. White mushroom and Canned mushroom + Chicken Fillets, diced . Here's a picture smile.gif
5 White mushrooms, 5 mushrooms in the can, dice it. Pan-fry with olive oil, L&P Sauce, italian herbs, pepper and a lil' bit of BBQ sauce ( Hunt's BBQ Sauce Original )
smile.gif

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I doubt I can finish it myself sweat.gif

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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 20 2012, 12:57 PM)
Yes, that's the reason why I'm facing problem with diets  sweat.gif
Don't say big mac la, even McNuggets set also I can't complete a set by myself, I could only eat up to about 4-5 pieces of nuggets, 1/3 cup of the drink then I'm all done already, and that could actually last me for about half a day.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
I doubt I can finish it myself  sweat.gif
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Serious? yawn.gif
I can eat two/three big macs in one shot.
Hehe. I eat alot thumbup.gif
Man, never had big macs in a very long time sad.gif

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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 20 2012, 12:57 PM)
Yes, that's the reason why I'm facing problem with diets  sweat.gif
Don't say big mac la, even McNuggets set also I can't complete a set by myself, I could only eat up to about 4-5 pieces of nuggets, 1/3 cup of the drink then I'm all done already, and that could actually last me for about half a day.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
I doubt I can finish it myself  sweat.gif
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As djjd mentioned, you're messing up your digestive system. Your appetite is screwed as well. And as I've mentioned before, you gotta force feed yourself with the right foodstuff. Add on liquid nutrients, e.g. green powders and protein shakes if needed. Probiotics will also do good in sprucing up your digestive environment.
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QUOTE(gannicholas @ Jul 20 2012, 01:04 PM)
Serious? yawn.gif
I can eat two/three big macs in one shot.
Hehe. I eat alot  thumbup.gif
Man, never had big macs in a very long time  sad.gif
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whoa!!! So many? >"<
That was my maximum already, thus I always need a DBKL to help me clear food
1 set wantan mee also couldn't finish sweat.gif

QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 20 2012, 01:05 PM)
As djjd mentioned, you're messing up your digestive system. Your appetite is screwed as well. And as I've mentioned before, you gotta force feed yourself with the right foodstuff. Add on  liquid nutrients, e.g. green powders and protein shakes if needed. Probiotics will also do good in sprucing up your digestive environment.
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Yea, my appetite is real small, there are people say good la what la, but it's actually very suffering for me. I'm forcing myself to eat more nowadays, break into 6-7 meals a day, but still not enough, still need to take in more. I'm taking protein shakes daily, and also cod liver oil as supplements. Will try other supplement if can't improve by next month sweat.gif
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 20 2012, 12:48 PM)
For beginners, there's no need for the obsession in my opinion. The eventual result will be the same, not much of a big difference in terms of duration. In obese people, what's more important is the removal of refined carbs and empty calories.
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Not really.

Lets say your maintenance is 2500cals. And you target a deficit of 500cals = 2000 cals.

If 70-80% of it is carbs (and given our lousy Malaysian diet/food choices + marketing of wholegrain as "healthy", it is more than possible), then you would find it hard to retain LBM. Especially if you have poor exercise routines in place.

While dieting, the body can burn body fat, or LBM. The macro intake a person takes determines which it prefers.

I'd much rather burn 20% LBM 80% fat than even 50-50%.


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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 20 2012, 01:21 PM)
whoa!!! So many? >"<
That was my maximum already, thus I always need a DBKL to help me clear food
1 set wantan mee also couldn't finish  sweat.gif
Yea, my appetite is real small, there are people say good la what la, but it's actually very suffering for me. I'm forcing myself to eat more nowadays, break into 6-7 meals a day, but still not enough, still need to take in more. I'm taking protein shakes daily, and also cod liver oil as supplements. Will try other supplement if can't improve by next month  sweat.gif
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Appeton, weight gainer shakes to get the calories in.

You need to work on this ASAP or it WILL have long-term consequences on your health, and possibly affect any offspring you have.

Mind to enlighten me on:

a) Your current weight?
b) When you started having this apetite issue?

If you have always been eating 800calories I find it hard to believe you would even need to post in this thread.

I suspect this is the result of a very badly planned crash diet. You are on the verge of aneroxia nervosa with eating 800 cals a day.

I strongly urge you to seek medical help.

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post Jul 20 2012, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 20 2012, 01:22 PM)
Not really.

Lets say your maintenance is 2500cals. And you target a deficit of 500cals = 2000 cals.

If 70-80% of it is carbs (and given our lousy Malaysian diet/food choices + marketing of wholegrain as "healthy", it is more than possible), then you would find it hard to retain LBM. Especially if you have poor exercise routines in place.

While dieting, the body can burn body fat, or LBM. The macro intake a person takes determines which it prefers.

I'd much rather burn 20% LBM 80% fat than even 50-50%.
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Yeah we're talking about the same things in essence. Just a different approach.

I go the easy way and say increase vegetables and legumes intake as much as possible, boiled eggs, and lean chicken meat.

When these are in place, the macronutrient distribution is usually in the right proportion, probably 60-20-20 or 60-30-10 or even 50-30-20 etc., with foods like legumes, vege, and milk making up the majority of the carbs.

On hindsight, while those are increased, naturally the person will need to cut down on other foodstuff due to available tummy space, in this case refined carbs and other nonsense.
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QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 20 2012, 01:51 PM)
Yeah we're talking about the same things in essence. Just a different approach.

I go the easy way and say increase vegetables and legumes intake as much as possible, boiled eggs, and lean chicken meat.

When these are in place, the macronutrient distribution is usually in the right proportion, probably 60-20-20 or 60-30-10 or even 50-30-20 etc., with foods like legumes, vege, and milk making up the majority of the carbs.

On hindsight, while those are increased, naturally the person will need to cut down on other foodstuff due to available tummy space, in this case refined carbs and other nonsense.
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Ok, I think we are actually agreeing.

I don't recommend a zero-carb or ultra-low carb diet to anyone - certainly not in malaysia anyways!

But a low(ered) carb intake is essential for weight loss.

Assuming you want to cut a 2,500 cal diet to a 2,000 one, the 500 cals reduced should come entirely from carbs. nod.gif

Carbs should ALWAYS be present pre- and/or post-workout.

I think the keto diet is not conducive to long-term health as well - even if you do manage to eat maintenance on it.
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post Jul 20 2012, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 20 2012, 01:22 PM)
Not really.

Lets say your maintenance is 2500cals. And you target a deficit of 500cals = 2000 cals.

If 70-80% of it is carbs (and given our lousy Malaysian diet/food choices + marketing of wholegrain as "healthy", it is more than possible), then you would find it hard to retain LBM. Especially if you have poor exercise routines in place.

While dieting, the body can burn body fat, or LBM. The macro intake a person takes determines which it prefers.

I'd much rather burn 20% LBM 80% fat than even 50-50%.


Added on July 20, 2012, 1:27 pm

Appeton, weight gainer shakes to get the calories in.

You need to work on this ASAP or it WILL have long-term consequences on your health, and possibly affect any offspring you have.

Mind to enlighten me on:

a) Your current weight?
b) When you started having this apetite issue?

If you have always been eating 800calories I find it hard to believe you would even need to post in this thread.

I suspect this is the result of a very badly planned crash diet. You are on the verge of aneroxia nervosa with eating 800 cals a day.

I strongly urge you to seek medical help.
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I don't think I'm having that disorder as I love to eat. I was from XL size shrink to XS, waist line 29 to 24 now. I'm currently 48. This appetite issue started this year.


QUOTE(DT1 @ Jul 20 2012, 01:51 PM)
Yeah we're talking about the same things in essence. Just a different approach.

I go the easy way and say increase vegetables and legumes intake as much as possible, boiled eggs, and lean chicken meat.

When these are in place, the macronutrient distribution is usually in the right proportion, probably 60-20-20 or 60-30-10 or even 50-30-20 etc., with foods like legumes, vege, and milk making up the majority of the carbs.

On hindsight, while those are increased, naturally the person will need to cut down on other foodstuff due to available tummy space, in this case refined carbs and other nonsense.
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I'm only eating vegetables, eggs, and lean meat every day .
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QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 20 2012, 02:28 PM)
I don't think I'm having that disorder as I love to eat. I was from XL size shrink to XS, waist line 29 to 24 now. I'm currently 48. This appetite issue started this year.
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How long did it take you to reduce 4" from your waist?

Being 48kgs can be considered underweight but of course it depends on your height.

Eating 600-800 cals a day is considered on the verge of aneroxia nervosa. I urge you to add carbs into your diet post workout.

And eat more!!
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 20 2012, 02:30 PM)
How long did it take you to reduce 4" from your waist?

Being 48kgs can be considered underweight but of course it depends on your height.

Eating 600-800 cals a day is considered on the verge of aneroxia nervosa. I urge you to add carbs into your diet post workout.

And eat more!!
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About a year.
Already trying to eat more sad.gif
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QUOTE(DJJD @ Jul 20 2012, 02:30 PM)
How long did it take you to reduce 4" from your waist?

Being 48kgs can be considered underweight but of course it depends on your height.

Eating 600-800 cals a day is considered on the verge of aneroxia nervosa. I urge you to add carbs into your diet post workout.

And eat more!!
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48kg for 160-165cm is normal for a girl. My ex classmate she weight 38kg and 160cm tall. She's so thin and i think i can break her leg or hand with 1 punch biggrin.gif
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There's no trying. Just set a goal. A certain amount of food to finish in a day. Force it down. Be consistent. Increase the amount gradually week by week. That simple.
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Hmm...Then gonna really gotta do it over the weekend now >"<
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So, my body is getting used to my circuit sets(weight training). Any good exercises to do next(weight training)?

Thinking of going either dropsets all the way or high reps low weights(40 reps of 6 set x 4 exercises per muscle group). Downfall to the high reps is i might not be able to maintain my muscle mass.

Dropsets = 4 exercises per muscle group, 3 sets of max weights followed by 4th set of the drop set(till failure for each rep).
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QUOTE(oOoproz @ Jul 20 2012, 05:04 AM)
Guys, how am I going to lose weight?? Almost everyday either I sleep late or not enough sleep... I know sleep late can make me gain weight... But besides sleep early, is there any other way to lose weight??
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Sleeping is not a requirement for losing weight. You need to have a good exercise routine and a balance healthy diet. That is all. Maybe sleep is contributing a bit to the fatness, but I doubt it contribute much.

QUOTE(playerseeker @ Jul 20 2012, 09:55 AM)
my weight maintained but i notice my fats around tummy got smaller abit and my waistline shrinked a little.

why is it like this?
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It means that your lean body mass is increasing and your body fat mass is decreasing. It always happened to most high body fat beginner whose started to weightlifting.

QUOTE(Sarah Angelina @ Jul 20 2012, 08:54 PM)
Hmm...Then gonna really gotta do it over the weekend now >"<
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Do you eat peanuts as I advice you to?

QUOTE(xDjWanNabex @ Jul 21 2012, 03:26 AM)
So, my body is getting used to my circuit sets(weight training). Any good exercises to do next(weight training)?

Thinking of going either dropsets all the way or high reps low weights(40 reps of 6 set x 4 exercises per muscle group). Downfall to the high reps is i might not be able to maintain my muscle mass.

Dropsets = 4 exercises per muscle group, 3 sets of max weights followed by 4th set of the drop set(till failure for each rep).
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What do you mean by 'getting used to'? Are you not experiencing DOMS like you do the first time? Then it is good. Are you not losing weight as fast as you always do? That is bad but it is not your routine's fault but it is your diet. Hope you can give more detail on this.

What is your goal actually?
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QUOTE(alien9 @ Jul 21 2012, 01:30 PM)
Sleeping is not a requirement for losing weight. You need to have a good exercise routine and a balance healthy diet. That is all. Maybe sleep is contributing a bit to the fatness, but I doubt it contribute much.
It means that your lean body mass is increasing and your body fat mass is decreasing. It always happened to most high body fat beginner whose started to weightlifting.
Do you eat peanuts as I advice you to?
What do you mean by 'getting used to'? Are you not experiencing DOMS like you do the first time? Then it is good. Are you not losing weight as fast as you always do? That is bad but it is not your routine's fault but it is your diet. Hope you can give more detail on this.

What is your goal actually?
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Yes, stock in a lot of peanuts, and almonds, but almonds eat like 10 - 15 pieces then full already, peanuts also around same amount, will be eating more >"<

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