QUOTE(TypeRZ @ Apr 23 2012, 04:13 PM)
it's your money, your choice Need recommendation/advice for CarAudio system V2, Please use this thread (omg v1 Aug 2005)
Need recommendation/advice for CarAudio system V2, Please use this thread (omg v1 Aug 2005)
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Apr 23 2012, 04:16 PM
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Apr 23 2012, 07:42 PM
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Okay.
But actually chicken brands tend to heat up faster? more unstable? It also affects the clarity of the speakers/subwoofers? Brands like Soundstream/Etone etc etc are chicken? Alpine & Pioneer too? |
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Apr 23 2012, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(TypeRZ @ Apr 23 2012, 07:42 PM) Okay. can't comment since i never used (and never will) chicken brands. their clarity/accuracy is enough of a turn off for me to go for them But actually chicken brands tend to heat up faster? more unstable? It also affects the clarity of the speakers/subwoofers? Brands like Soundstream/Etone etc etc are chicken? Alpine & Pioneer too? AFAIK soundstream/etone arent chicken, though AFAIK soundstream are more into amps, and etone kinda have a niche market. alpine/pioneer are pretty much HU/processors only. their low end speakers are a lost cause and their high ends (like the discontinued alpine F#1) are not worth it |
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Apr 24 2012, 03:05 PM
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hi sifu and friends.
im planning to upgrade my ice.changing from spl to sq. tua already. b4 im using mohawk comp,amp and sony subs. i already change my comp to morel hybrid ovation, morel tempo coax, and amp mcintosh 440m. still on sony subs. i have budget around 2k. what is the best subs i can get? btw my hu is pioneer avh 3250dvd This post has been edited by hans18: Apr 24 2012, 03:09 PM |
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Apr 24 2012, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(hans18 @ Apr 24 2012, 03:05 PM) hi sifu and friends. JL 12w3 and above, in minimum 1/2in mdf + good monoblock + min 4ga power cables.im planning to upgrade my ice.changing from spl to sq. tua already. b4 im using mohawk comp,amp and sony subs. i already change my comp to morel hybrid ovation, morel tempo coax, and amp mcintosh 440m. still on sony subs. i have budget around 2k. what is the best subs i can get? btw my hu is pioneer avh 3250dvd |
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Apr 24 2012, 09:21 PM
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anyone wants to share a 0awg power cable with me?
thinking of ordering one reel... but i dun use up to one reel... |
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Apr 24 2012, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(TypeRZ @ Apr 23 2012, 07:42 PM) Okay. I duno much about SS or Etone but I'd be surprised if you can get Alpine for RM500... unless you're talking 2nd hand?But actually chicken brands tend to heat up faster? more unstable? It also affects the clarity of the speakers/subwoofers? Brands like Soundstream/Etone etc etc are chicken? Alpine & Pioneer too? If you could top it up to 1k I think you might be able to get get the Alpine PDX monoblocks or something along those lines. Perhaps even the JL smaller monoblocks. But whatever it is you get, make sure the amp supports the impedance requirements of the sub. dual voice coil 4ohm means your amp needs to support 2ohm minimum. Dual voice coil 2ohm means 1ohm minimum. If single coil the just see whats the impedance and whether the amp supports it or not. Otherwise whatever brand you use you'll hurt the amp. Chicken brands are called that because they never deliver what they promise. Not because they are unstable or heat up faster or whatever. In some extremely bad chicken brands, they advertise xxxx but give you zzzz then something spoils because of it. In most cases it's just a matter of "1000w RMS" but only deliver 250w which isn't so bad. Oh and if you have golden ears, you'll be able to hear the difference in bass with the different amps. Compare the Alpine PDX Class-D Monoblocks with a class-AB monoblock and you might hear the difference. Of course class-AB is more expensive and can be quite rare. |
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Apr 24 2012, 10:22 PM
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Eton, right? Not Etone. Etone is from another planet.
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Apr 24 2012, 11:03 PM
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thanks krayden for your comment.i forgot to mention i need subs somewhere in 400rms. i plan to use 1 amp only which is my 6ch mcintosh 440m. i bridge to 3ch (200w x 2) and (400w x 1). 200w x 2 to powered my morel hybrid ovation (front comp) and 400w rms for subs. i know mcintosh amp can supply more but to be safe i want to stay in 400w region for my subs.my morel tempo coax directly powered from HU.
btw im using 4ga power cable and do jl subs sound good? last time i heard its more towards spl. i dont want to boom boom but just pure sq. and the last thing i want to do is to open my boot and listen from outside ;-) its in car entertainment (ice) not outside car entertainment(oce) hehe This post has been edited by hans18: Apr 24 2012, 11:09 PM |
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Apr 24 2012, 11:17 PM
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maybe can try peerless, rms is 300W i think
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Apr 24 2012, 11:40 PM
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thnks zenn.
any specific model, comment, distributor loc. |
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Apr 25 2012, 01:13 AM
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peerless XLS or XXLS, about 900, distributed by akaya, available at several shops around pj, and from me, hehe
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Apr 25 2012, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(hans18 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:03 PM) thanks krayden for your comment.i forgot to mention i need subs somewhere in 400rms. i plan to use 1 amp only which is my 6ch mcintosh 440m. i bridge to 3ch (200w x 2) and (400w x 1). 200w x 2 to powered my morel hybrid ovation (front comp) and 400w rms for subs. i know mcintosh amp can supply more but to be safe i want to stay in 400w region for my subs.my morel tempo coax directly powered from HU. You got some heavy duty gear. Love that amp btw! Do something about the HU tho btw im using 4ga power cable and do jl subs sound good? last time i heard its more towards spl. i dont want to boom boom but just pure sq. and the last thing i want to do is to open my boot and listen from outside ;-) its in car entertainment (ice) not outside car entertainment(oce) hehe As for sub, what sort of music do you listen to? There's a few subs out there that you can look out for. Not all JLs are boom boom boom, they are pretty quick subs so properly tuned you can get pretty good bass, I particularly like the W6v2 and used to own a W3v2. Both did great with the infamous Pirates of the Caribbean #1 theme song which will show how fast/slow your sub is. At that time the W6v2 was powered by a TRU Hammer (not my setup) and my W3v2 was fed with a Orion HCCA G4. Might be worth mentioning that both amps are Class AB though. I personally feel class AB works better than Class D even for monoblocks. Personal opinion. The other SQ subs that people swear by are Scanspeaks, Seas lotus and Morel but personally I find them too soft for my liking. Perhaps it's the way they were setup but none did too well in my ears with my kind of music but to be fair I don't think these SQ subs were designed for electronic bass music. Suggest you test these subs yourself before you settle for one. Right now I'm using a Boston G5 with a JL1000/1 and I'm quite happy with it. But my meat might be your poison so can't really advise. |
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Apr 25 2012, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE(hans18 @ Apr 24 2012, 11:03 PM) thanks krayden for your comment.i forgot to mention i need subs somewhere in 400rms. i plan to use 1 amp only which is my 6ch mcintosh 440m. i bridge to 3ch (200w x 2) and (400w x 1). 200w x 2 to powered my morel hybrid ovation (front comp) and 400w rms for subs. i know mcintosh amp can supply more but to be safe i want to stay in 400w region for my subs.my morel tempo coax directly powered from HU. JL Audio subs are among the more popular subwoofers for SQ folks. So yeah, with a well made sealed box, they can do SQ setups pretty well. btw im using 4ga power cable and do jl subs sound good? last time i heard its more towards spl. i dont want to boom boom but just pure sq. and the last thing i want to do is to open my boot and listen from outside ;-) its in car entertainment (ice) not outside car entertainment(oce) hehe |
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Apr 25 2012, 10:28 AM
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thanks iszo and quazacolt for your comment and compliment:-)
as for my music preference, i listen to all kind of music. but i hear a lot of slow rock and jazz. i did test some jl b4,(but cant remember the model) but it didnt satisfy me.slow bass response and too hard for me. but i dont think that were the models u guys suggested to me.anyway i will try to find jl w3 and w6 to test it. do u know any shop near ipoh or kl that can test those subs? what bout peerless xxls recommended by mr zenn? 900 quite okay and maybe looking to invest on HU later hehe. as for HU, for double din multimedia, i heard alpine w900 is the best that money can buy atm? is that true? i mean for sq related. correct me if im wrong. as u all know, im trying to get the best setup within my budget so i can forget bout upgrading for the next 5 years or so :-) and enjoy the ice instead of 'gatal tangan'.hehe. so exp la upgrading. so far spend 9k already. subs and HU not incl. If my wife know then will get scold hehe This post has been edited by hans18: Apr 25 2012, 10:39 AM |
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Apr 25 2012, 11:07 AM
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my opinion jl>seas>peerless>scanspeak subs. never heard morel b4.
peerless resolution better choice than xls. i got jl 10w3v3 if you wanna listen. bring your own cd. |
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Apr 25 2012, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(izso @ Apr 25 2012, 07:24 AM) You got some heavy duty gear. Love that amp btw! Do something about the HU tho could you please provide a full review for the boston G5? better if you can compare/review side by side with the JL Audio W6 or W3 As for sub, what sort of music do you listen to? There's a few subs out there that you can look out for. Not all JLs are boom boom boom, they are pretty quick subs so properly tuned you can get pretty good bass, I particularly like the W6v2 and used to own a W3v2. Both did great with the infamous Pirates of the Caribbean #1 theme song which will show how fast/slow your sub is. At that time the W6v2 was powered by a TRU Hammer (not my setup) and my W3v2 was fed with a Orion HCCA G4. Might be worth mentioning that both amps are Class AB though. I personally feel class AB works better than Class D even for monoblocks. Personal opinion. The other SQ subs that people swear by are Scanspeaks, Seas lotus and Morel but personally I find them too soft for my liking. Perhaps it's the way they were setup but none did too well in my ears with my kind of music but to be fair I don't think these SQ subs were designed for electronic bass music. Suggest you test these subs yourself before you settle for one. Right now I'm using a Boston G5 with a JL1000/1 and I'm quite happy with it. But my meat might be your poison so can't really advise. very interested since i am using a boston sub too and i really like em XD |
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Apr 25 2012, 01:58 PM
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guys,
i shortlist boston g5 - rm dont know, peerless xxls- rm900, morel primo 124 - rm1050. what do u all suggest.. thanks |
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Apr 25 2012, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(hans18 @ Apr 25 2012, 01:58 PM) guys, not sure if they still produce G5... i've never seen it even back in the days.i shortlist boston g5 - rm dont know, peerless xxls- rm900, morel primo 124 - rm1050. what do u all suggest.. thanks i am using their entry level G1 http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=34048347 refer boston acoustics official site: http://www.bostonacoustics.com/Subwoofers-C247.aspx |
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Apr 25 2012, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(hans18 @ Apr 25 2012, 01:58 PM) guys, May I suggest this one : Eclipse SW8200 12" 700RMS subwoofer from here https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1225461&hl=i shortlist boston g5 - rm dont know, peerless xxls- rm900, morel primo 124 - rm1050. what do u all suggest.. thanks The people sitting at the back do not feel anything. Was powering it with Genesis DM. |
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