surround only happen if installed with surround processor and having multiple channel amplifier to amplify each spk since all surround processor doesn't included amplifier. If there's no surround processing, the whole car will be only in stereo. so no matter watever front and back surround is only because of the time that the sound goes to your ears and the echo from the car cabin. Using time alignment maybe can solve the problem but it's better to avoid the problem first before finding the way to cure it.

No, i have a sound processor installed, and amplifier for each speaker.

this.

Haa, its really a pain trying to manual tune each of that speaker coz i dun have mic to do auto tuning.

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Added on November 7, 2012, 6:16 pmAnd surround processors are expensive

This post has been edited by ezmeer94: Nov 7 2012, 06:16 PM

rear-field speakers are actually a good idea. mostly overlook by the majority n etc... rear-field(in stereo) could help the frontstage a lot
its a very confusing statement above as most of us r taught that the rears will ONLY DISTURB the frontstage



This post has been edited by carcrazy: Nov 8 2012, 12:18 AM

it comes with money and effort no doubt, in which it is typically better to just allocate more towards the fronts/main components such as amp/woofer

u better forget about ur current ice....buy another pair of ur s60 or maybe higher end model put at rear and see how good it will be :>

Good or not? Need some feedback here Lolz

myvi 1.3 SE.
with DB drive k7 12"D4
and DB drive Speed series 1000watts monoblock class D amp
suit or not suit?

What brand is that? Db? American brand ka?
But your amp should power the sub nicely

UK brand..x)) hmm..still using the myvi 1.3 ori HU..x(( and don hv pre-amp..sound not reli nice..x(( tis set cost me around 2.5k++

i dun wan put rear la, no money/ waste money

i wait for my s60 kaput first, 4 years still going strong

good in the sense of?

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Added on November 8, 2012, 9:16 pmthe amp and sub cost u 2.5k?

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Added on November 8, 2012, 9:16 pmthen u are not really sql..let me show u what is sql..come come..

This post has been edited by howiechoo: Nov 8 2012, 09:16 PM

dei people say my setup sql (prolly thanks to the huge 12" ported sub with huge box lol) i ma ikut lo, now say my setup not sql, apala LOL

btw i baru solved my rear wooden panel sound liao thanks to isetan's Styrofoam wrapping for my Davidoff coffee, dun wan to kacau it liao

Sense of what I dunno lolz

yaaaa..x((((

Haiya.. you're taking the word "surround" too literally. And you didn't read my comment properly la. I don't care about staging. Therefore imaging is irrelevant, tonality isn't affected la and separation where got affected? That's not what it sounded like in my car back then. You probably need tuning assistance if you had that much problems.



And whatever the "sense to focus" is, it's a personal preference. I want a submersive setup that covers my passengers too, so you want to focus on driver that is your choice. Mine is not the same as yours.

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Added on November 9, 2012, 7:09 amAlo taiko.. you also another one. Music recordings where got surround recording one? Only stereo. I don't need a processor to have rear setup with stereo and besides, surround in its true meaning is only for DVD users. I just want a submersive sounding setup. Front, back, left, right, etc.. who cares that it doesn't sound 'realistic' la?

This kind of discussion will lead no where since everyone is trying force their ideals on others.

This post has been edited by izso: Nov 9 2012, 07:09 AM

I'm with you izso
Because I love the sound of my headphone and iem so I'm trying to create similar sound signature in my car
So I need the rear speaker but I fade it quite a bit cause I don't want the soundstage to be in the centre or rear
And izso what's your setup? Have rear rite hehe

This post has been edited by ezmeer94: Nov 9 2012, 07:23 AM

ICE do have it limitation. There is only so much that we can do within a budget and constraint of a vehicle interior. For those of us who are Headphile or Audiophile, we do have another set of standard of sound reproduction that would defer from ICEer.
Those of us with Speaker setup would compare with positioning, floorstand with multiple driver size, multiple subwoofer, ported sealed and also room correction. We expect the stereo sound to fill the entire room and also have a sweetspot. In addition to this, the luxury of minimal environmental noise and cleaning up the main noise. Not forgetting some who even regenerate power for audio reproduction purposes. If do have a chance, do try to listen a good Stereo Setup or maybe visit the annual KLIAV to get a taste of this side of the poison.
Unfortunately we cannot wear a Headphone while driving. We need to share the sound with the other occupant as well in the vehicle. If can, I would just spend on a portable Hi-end Headphile gear that could cost the same as a ICE setup. Think of a mid end Headphone with noise cancellation, media player, portable DAC/amp that can be just linked to the 12v power adaptor. Put one Headphile gear in a car and try compare it against decent ICE. Think where your preference be.
Therefore rear speaker do help in imaging as we cannot control reflection point in vehicle that easily. Cannot simply have egg tray stuck on window.
Anyway, it's still individual preference. If you want to stick to ICE principal of front stage without rear speaker then its your call. There is still some of us who do dream of having certain difference in our setup. Also there is those some of us who try to reproduce something that near to impossible but what the heck, nice to daydream. For me I want the sound of a Denon D7000 powered by a full wadia setup sound in my ICE...... Daydreaming....