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ezmeer94
post Nov 5 2012, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:42 PM)
Does Sound Proof really important?
thinking of skipping sound proof
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it helps for listening to your music with lower volume biggrin.gif
better and clearer sound quality biggrin.gif
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:58 PM)
it helps for listening to your music with lower volume biggrin.gif
better and clearer sound quality biggrin.gif
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Isit expensive? icon_question.gif
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:00 PM)
Isit expensive? icon_question.gif
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depends biggrin.gif
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:22 PM)
depends biggrin.gif
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Estimate for a vios?
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:23 PM)
Estimate for a vios?
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what you want to soundproof?
what material?
whole car?
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post Nov 5 2012, 11:43 PM

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Saw alot of people use Dynamat

Hmmm, previously i got my car side door speaker and rear speaker when it is too loud the whole dashboard vibrate can a sound proof prevent that?
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:43 PM)
Saw alot of people use Dynamat

Hmmm, previously i got my car side door speaker and rear speaker when it is too loud the whole dashboard vibrate can a sound proof prevent that?
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yes get a dashboard treatment to prevent that might be below rm 400 or more
i just soundproof my door cause door panel vibrate when music is loud lol\
now no more thumbup.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Nov 5 2012, 10:58 PM)
it helps for listening to your music with lower volume biggrin.gif
better and clearer sound quality biggrin.gif
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opposite rather, because speakers vibrate/reverberation, and you need sound proofing to reduce/remove it smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 6 2012, 12:30 AM)
opposite rather, because speakers vibrate/reverberation, and you need sound proofing to reduce/remove it smile.gif
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ya true but also make car more quieter for more pleasant music listening without road noise biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:23 PM)
Estimate for a vios?
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Dynamat is the best soundproof, made in USA. However it is very expensive, you can go for local material and brand, cheaper by half. If you keen for Dynamat, I sell Dynamat sheets, no installation provided, estimated whole car for normal sedan(Doors + Floor + Roof + Boot and Engine Bonnet) you will need around 15-20 sheets.
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QUOTE(munak991 @ Nov 5 2012, 11:43 PM)
Saw alot of people use Dynamat

Hmmm, previously i got my car side door speaker and rear speaker when it is too loud the whole dashboard vibrate can a sound proof prevent that?
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You'll need to have a budget in mind when come to soundproofing.

Deal with your source of noise instead of follow whatever people say.

It seems that your car doors rattle when music go loud, so you may consider door dampening.

There are different way of dealing with door soundproofing, basically all you need to do it to dampen and then do sound insulation. (Of course, depend on your budget too~)

I would suggest you to do the front door soundproof first. At least you can feel the effect immediately.

There are so many brands out there for you to choose from. Budget counts and definitely applying it the correct way counts too.

If you are hesitant on DIY, then get some skilled installer to do it.

Do take note as well that, some unheard of brand out there are basically just a waste of money. Seen it, tested it and already throw away.


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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Nov 6 2012, 03:22 PM)
You'll need to have a budget in mind when come to soundproofing.

Deal with your source of noise instead of follow whatever people say.

It seems that your car doors rattle when music go loud, so you may consider door dampening.

There are different way of dealing with door soundproofing, basically all you need to do it to dampen and then do sound insulation. (Of course, depend on your budget too~)

I would suggest you to do the front door soundproof first. At least you can feel the effect immediately.

There are so many brands out there for you to choose from. Budget counts and definitely applying it the correct way counts too.

If you are hesitant on DIY, then get some skilled installer to do it.

Do take note as well that, some unheard of brand out there are basically just a waste of money. Seen it, tested it and already throw away.
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Agree with you, while trying to save budget, go around ask opinions from different experts, and get a reputable brand. I was once a victim by getting cheap china made soundproof, Rm30-Rm40 per piece, unable to stick well, not long lasting, and the effect is disappointing. Have to change again in the end, waste of money.

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Nov 6 2012, 03:22 PM)

Deal with your source of noise instead of follow whatever people say.
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i highly emphasize on this thumbup.gif
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post Nov 6 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 6 2012, 04:55 PM)
i highly emphasize on this  thumbup.gif
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ya this is so true
my car already quiet so i just dampen the doors to kill the rattles biggrin.gif
and btw i wanna ask something,upgrading rear speakers is it really a waste? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Nov 6 2012, 10:28 PM)
ya this is so true
my car already quiet so i just dampen the doors to kill the rattles biggrin.gif
and btw i wanna ask something,upgrading rear speakers is it really a waste?  sweat.gif
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if you're going to satisfy rear passengers, or even have external SQ etc (trip to EMMA really taught me new stuff haha) then no

if only for yourself, huge waste.
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post Nov 7 2012, 02:09 AM

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how much is a domination speaker cost?
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post Nov 7 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(ezmeer94 @ Nov 6 2012, 10:28 PM)
ya this is so true
my car already quiet so i just dampen the doors to kill the rattles biggrin.gif
and btw i wanna ask something,upgrading rear speakers is it really a waste?  sweat.gif
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I disagree with Quazacolt.

Having rear speakers is a personal preference. I kinda like sound surrounding me from back and front like that, nevermind the staging. So personally if you ask me it's not a waste of money.

It's a personal preference.

You got the money then go for it. If limited then optimize front speakers only. Purists will say front only, but i'm not a purist and I just like the way it sounds so it's up to you
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post Nov 7 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(izso @ Nov 7 2012, 09:52 AM)
I disagree with Quazacolt.

Having rear speakers is a personal preference. I kinda like sound surrounding me from back and front like that, nevermind the staging. So personally if you ask me it's not a waste of money.

It's a personal preference.

You got the money then go for it. If limited then optimize front speakers only. Purists will say front only, but i'm not a purist and I just like the way it sounds so it's up to you
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upmixing can be a b**** to deal with though. do remember that a huge majority (what, 99% or more?) of music/songs etc are in stereo, so that means whatever surround you're going to have is upmixed. (i speak from experience having a creative G500 5.1 speaker set for my pc smile.gif )

if you're keeping front/rear L/R stereo kinda "surround", then it'll be just unnecessary push on the SPL which not only affects the sound staging (assuming one doesn't mind in the first place) but also affects the tonality/imaging and even separation of your audio reproduction.

it makes much more sense to focus the money on the front where you - the driver is at smile.gif

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post Nov 7 2012, 12:16 PM

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Hi ezmeer 94, sp is really nice. The sound of ur ice will be more focus. I can get u dynamat double layers 4 door at $700. For your info, i m addicted until to do the sp to roof, trunk & fender. No time to do the floor yet. Is good till the door will become solid and the sound when u closing door is good.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 6 2012, 10:35 PM)
if you're going to satisfy rear passengers, or even have external SQ etc (trip to EMMA really taught me new stuff haha) then no

if only for yourself, huge waste.
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Yeah, for true SQ, focus on front speakers will do. Invest a really really good front vocal speakers. As for me, I still install after-market rear speakers for the comfort of rear passengers, coz i do alot of fetching. Secondly is I want the surround effect when watching DVD.

I guess for SQ with front and rear speakers, time correction can correct the effect of the problem arise of upmixing, correct me if i am wrong. (My personal opinion)

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